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NPOY - Poll

Who wins NPOY

  • Broome

    Votes: 11 73.3%
  • Flagg

    Votes: 4 26.7%

  • Total voters
    15
Broome

Flagg is a special talent though. Really interested in seeing how Duke does in the tournament. Have not been impressed by Scheyer in the past.
 
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Flagg, in my opinion, will be really good at the next level.

However, my goodness is he ever doing this against atrocious competition. Midmajor stuff.

Broome has been unreal this year against the best competition in the country and against the best athletes in the country. Hope he gets picked up in the second round and is given a legit chance to perform at the next level.

No brainer of a choice, in my opinion.
 
He might end up third for the Big Ten award if he keeps playing like he has.
What's interesting is his numbers aren't as bad as he's looked. In the 4 game losing streak, he's averaging:

13.8 pts, 4.3 rebounds , 8 assists (with a 2.42 ATO) while shooting 45% from two, 35% from three 83% from the line.

Most players would take those stats but we are so reliant on him being elite that just good isn't good enough. And he was terrible in the 2nd half against IU so there is some recency bias there.
 
What's interesting is his numbers aren't as bad as he's looked. In the 4 game losing streak, he's averaging:

13.8 pts, 4.3 rebounds , 8 assists (with a 2.42 ATO) while shooting 45% from two, 35% from three 83% from the line.

Most players would take those stats but we are so reliant on him being elite that just good isn't good enough. And he was terrible in the 2nd half against IU so there is some recency bias there.
So many teams have a shot. You can feel the nervous energy with March looming. Except for @bignish who took Duke over the field.
 
You guys know it's going to be Flagg, right?

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Flagg has a higher ceiling.

I voted Broome for

Flagg, in my opinion, will be really good at the next level.

However, my goodness is he ever doing this against atrocious competition. Midmajor stuff.

Broome has been unreal this year against the best competition in the country and against the best athletes in the country. Hope he gets picked up in the second round and is given a legit chance to perform at the next level.

No brainer of a choice, in my opinion.
I mean it would be bullshit. Duke has played 1 ranked opponent in the last 2 months and they lost that game. Thats it. Currently in the net rankings LSU is the lowest ranked SEC team at 89. The ACC has 9 schools ranked lower than LSU.
I don't care who wins it but if the ACC guy wins it the SEC fanboys are going to lose their minds.
 
I mean it would be bullshit. Duke has played 1 ranked opponent in the last 2 months and they lost that game. Thats it. Currently in the net rankings LSU is the lowest ranked SEC team at 89. The ACC has 9 schools ranked lower than LSU.


I didn't know voting for POY one of the metrics is a teams SOS.

Again I don't care who wins it but they're both deserving
 
That's fair, what was the head to head numbers between the 2 when they played in the a SEC/ACC challenge?
Broome. 20 points. 12 rebounds
Flagg - 22 points 11 rebounds

Basically a wash. Isaiah evans having his best game of the year was the difference in that game
 
My point is that weaker competition can inflate individual numbers

if we're gonna start using stuff like that then I'm giving extra credit to the guy who played most of the year at 17 years old vs the guy who turns 23 in July.

Doesn't matter how bad the ACC is, Flagg is still playing every night vs men often 3-5 years more physically mature than him. He's a boy playing vs young men. Don't care how bad the ACC is, that's way more impressive than old man Broome beating up on guys who are pretty much all younger than him.
 
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That's fair, what was the head to head numbers between the 2 when they played in the a SEC/ACC challenge?
Pretty close. I wonder if voters will take into consideration that Flagg is supposed to be a senior in high school right now. I'm not saying they should, but wonder if it will impact their thinking.

PointsReboundsAssistsStealsBlocks
Broome2012301
Flagg2211432
 
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Pretty close. I wonder if voters will take into consideration that Flagg is supposed to be a senior in high school right now. I'm not saying they should, but wonder if it will impact their thinking.

PointsReboundsAssistsStealsBlocks
Broome2012301
Flagg2211432
Clearly Flagg. I wanna change my vote.
 
Clearly Flagg. I wanna change my vote.
I knew you would see the error of your ways. I had faith.
Honestly I don't think there is too much of a complaint to be made on who wins the award as long as it is one of those two. Argument can be made for either one based on different factors. Right now, FanDuel has it -120 Broome and -105 Flagg for the Wooden award, and Draft Kings has it -155 Flagg and +120 Broome. Fanatics has it Flagg -160, Broome +120. I won't be too torn up either way. There is a much bigger prize that both Duke and Auburn fans are hoping for!
 
Pretty close. I wonder if voters will take into consideration that Flagg is supposed to be a senior in high school right now. I'm not saying they should, but wonder if it will impact their thinking.

PointsReboundsAssistsStealsBlocks
Broome2012301
Flagg2211432
I think voters should definitely take it into consideration. Im 100% giving Flagg more credit for doing something it took Broome 5 years to figure out.
 
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