Malauch to Duke
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Don't care about the OAD like you guys do. The end result is with all that talent you still can't get it right and when you don't the excuses start flowing.
This is proof you need to pay attention to what you say. You're a legend in your own mind so this shouldn't be a difficult task for you.
No excuses but duke has been underwhelming with all those recruiting titles and nothing to show for it.
We literally won the ACCT last year while ya"ll were sitting at home with your loaded team with Caleb Love and RJ Davis.
Year prior, we won the ACC Regular Season and made the Final 4.
How is that underwhelming?
Duke didn't have multiple OADs in 2016 and 2021. There was no tourney in 2020 and we had a shitty team with no talent in 2021 and were in the NIT.
Our talented teams won a title (2015), made a Final 4 (2022), 2 Elite 8s (2018 and 2019) and 1 2nd round upset to South Carolina where we played in Greenville and lost to a USC team that made the Final 4.
I can't really tolerate those two going back and forth.
Plus, I can't bring myself to talk a lot of smack to Duke since Hubert and Love and company sort of ended them a couple of years ago. Games are still fun but it's kind of over for all intents and purposes.
UNC beating K in his final home game AND final career game are all timer wins. No matter what ya'll got the final laugh against your biggest rival.
If NC’s are your success measure, seems your strategy hasn’t been very successful either.
When did all time = last 100 games?
I'll use your logic. Hubert is 2-1 against your Pops.
If that works for you that's cool but I like bringing up those last 2 L's we hung on your dad.
Hello, bitch.
The Duke teams that have had 2+ freshmen drafted have performed really well in March, actually.
2015- National champs
2017- ACC Tournament Champs, 2 seed
2018- Regional Finals
2019- ACC Tournament Champs, Regional Finals
2020- #5 KenPom before season being shut down
2022- Final Four, ACC Champs
2023- ACC Tournament Champs (18-1 when all the rotation players were healthy)
2017 & 2022 were the only years where Carolina went further in the tournament. And, of course, UNC also had a losing season in 2020 & missed the tournament in 2023. So, Duke outperformed UNC in 5 of those 7 seasons.
Any coach in America would take those results. 4 Regionals Finals in 6 years, including 2 Final Fours, 1 National Title, and 3 ACC Tournament Titles. And we were 1 possession away from a FF in '18 and '19.
With all the NBA talent, preseason # 1 over that span of time you should of accomplished alot more than they have. You can't tell me otherwise.
I respect your opinion but you said duke out performed UNC 5/7 teams, with all that talent no one is going to argue that. I'm saying the end result didn't match the talent level. How many times were you preseason ranked #1 with the top recruiting class?
I'm basing this on tournament success only, winning conference championships don't mean anything. Bagley, Zion, RJ and the rest didn't come to duke to win conference titles, they came to duke to win it all and neither even sniffed a FF
Once k went all in on 0AD, the talent was flowing to Durham yearly, IMO the results didn't match up
Duke was preseason #1 in 2017 & 2018. No other Duke team with multiple OADs was ever ranked higher than 4th in the preseason. The 2017 team had Harry Giles, who was the #2 rated prospect in HS (ahead of Tatum). After his ACL injuries, he wasn't the same player. That ranking would have dipped a bit had people known Giles was only a shell of his former self. So, really on the 2018 team. Great team, very nearly made the Final Four. But, came just a bit short.
I'll take my chances with 4 Regional Final Fours in 6 years. Those are odds I'm willing to take 100 times out of 100.
Bottom line is simple: You take talent EVERY time. I don't care how many juniors and seniors a team may have. There are 40+ power schools every year that have multiple upperclassmen in their starting lineup that can't sniff a regional final.
Not all recruiting classes are created equal, and that significantly impacts Duke's ceiling. Flagg/Maluach in the starting lineup, however, will create a ceiling that is much higher than your typical Duke squad.
IMO this kid won't be much of a factor maybe just cause a little disruption in the post on defense. Doubt he is much of a offensive threat
You’re right about the rivalry. What happened in 2022 broke my soul.
I can’t in good conscience make fun of you guys again till we beat you in championships or beat you H2H in the NCAAT to even the score.
That day is coming though. Scheyer is the recruiting GOAT. Every Duke team will be a major title threat.
Maybe He could share his prowess with other programs? Here’s what a “less successful” recruiter than Scheyer says to his recruits;
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Agree completely with how he is recruiting right now. I think it would benefit him more to maybe have a better mix of portal guys with some of this elite talent but you can't turn down the sort of talent he is getting.
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