Looks like NCAA transfer rule is changing

[Dr.O1]

Andrew Slater@Andrew__Slater
This has been in the works for months. For better or worse, it is a virtual certainty that it will go into effect, barring changes from an upcoming commission’s recommendations. There have been certain key dates along the way, including this Thursday. Sources: Major Potential Shift In NCAA Transfer Rules

 

[LandofOzDevil]

Not a fan of this at all. The one and done rule is bad enough for college hoops, now this. I don’t like the downward trend college hoops is on.

 

[xWVU2010x]

For once the NCAA does something to benefit their athletes rather than themselves.

 

[KUhawks34]

What exactly is this rule?

 

[tw3301]

What exactly is this rule?

I would imagine anyone can transfer without sitting a year but don't know if that is true or not. If that's the case it's going to result in bigger programs cherry picking players when they miss on recruits or have a hole in their roster. Not a fan.

 

[VulvHa]

Andrew Slater@Andrew__Slater
This has been in the works for months. For better or worse, it is a virtual certainty that it will go into effect, barring changes from an upcoming commission’s recommendations. There have been certain key dates along the way, including this Thursday. Sources: Major Potential Shift In NCAA Transfer Rules

Seems like a terrible rule. The mid-majors are already getting gouged by the grad transfer rule, this will make it infinitely worse for them.

 

[EstebanBugatti]

What exactly is this rule?

It makes it so transfers don't have to sit out.

 

[tw3301]

Seems like a terrible rule. The mid-majors are already getting gouged by the grad transfer rule, this will make it infinitely worse for them.

Basically free agency for college.

 

[KUhawks34]

I would imagine anyone can transfer without sitting a year but don't know if that is true or not. If that's the case it's going to result in bigger programs cherry picking players when they miss on recruits or have a hole in their roster. Not a fan.

Don’t think it’s a good rule either. Wouldn’t people just transfer every year?

Would rather they get rid of one and done.

 

[rockycard]

I’ve heard that Quade Green is doing an official visit to Louisville this weekend. The back strain is just a smokescreen...

 

[rockycard]

I would’ve used a Kentucky football player, but I really doubt that any of them could crack our three deep.

 

[Ampelmann]

I'm so for this. Let the kids do what they want without penalty. **** it.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Don’t think it’s a good rule either. Wouldn’t people just transfer every year?

Would rather they get rid of one and done.

I think when the rule goes into effect everyone will calm down with this wild speculation of free agency, guys transferring every year, and the blue bloods crushing the mid majors for their top players.

Its a huge pain in the ass to transfer out of a school and if things are going well, as in you're a featured player with a team being built around you, then why would you leave for any reason other than the NBA?

For basketball what I think you will see is a lot more transfers for guys 6-12 on the bench.

You will also see a lot more transfers when a big name coach leaves a program.

Neither is a bad thing and good for players, why should player X be stranded at school Y when they committed to play in Coach Z's system if Coach Z leaves for a bigger opportunity, they should atleast be afforded the opportunity to follow the coach they basically helped build up.

What I dont think you will see, is what everyone seems to fear and thats Kentucky poaching VCU's top Junior Guard to join a college superteam and provide veteran leadership for a group of 5 prospective OADs. I just dont think the top senior talent would bail like that when they are set to lead their own team and have to impress a whole new coaching staff and mesh with a new set of players and potentially lose their starting spot.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

2.8 GPA or higher.

 

[RR30]

2.8 GPA or higher.

Sorry North Carolina

 

[coryfly]

I think when the rule goes into effect everyone will calm down with this wild speculation of free agency, guys transferring every year, and the blue bloods crushing the mid majors for their top players.

Its a huge pain in the ass to transfer out of a school and if things are going well, as in you're a featured player with a team being built around you, then why would you leave for any reason other than the NBA?

For basketball what I think you will see is a lot more transfers for guys 6-12 on the bench.

You will also see a lot more transfers when a big name coach leaves a program.

Neither is a bad thing and good for players, why should player X be stranded at school Y when they committed to play in Coach Z's system if Coach Z leaves for a bigger opportunity, they should atleast be afforded the opportunity to follow the coach they basically helped build up.

What I dont think you will see, is what everyone seems to fear and thats Kentucky poaching VCU's top Junior Guard to join a college superteam and provide veteran leadership for a group of 5 prospective OADs. I just dont think the top senior talent would bail like that when they are set to lead their own team and have to impress a whole new coaching staff and mesh with a new set of players and potentially lose their starting spot.

I agree. People are freaking out for nothing. It is going to be a one time chance also, not a situation where guys could just transfer three times or something like that. Once and then again if they graduate so technically twice but as a graduate student the second time. Again, don't think it is going to be the wild west people are scared of.

 

[Noahtogo24]

I like it- if the coaches can jump ship without being penalized, why not the players??

 

[LTDukeFan]

2.8 GPA or higher.

I am glad you added this. I can't imagine a player bouncing around various colleges with (illusion of) pursuing a degree.

Helps the player for sure. Doesn't really help college basketball.

 

[VulvHa]

I think when the rule goes into effect everyone will calm down with this wild speculation of free agency, guys transferring every year, and the blue bloods crushing the mid majors for their top players.

Its a huge pain in the ass to transfer out of a school and if things are going well, as in you're a featured player with a team being built around you, then why would you leave for any reason other than the NBA?

For basketball what I think you will see is a lot more transfers for guys 6-12 on the bench.

You will also see a lot more transfers when a big name coach leaves a program.

Neither is a bad thing and good for players, why should player X be stranded at school Y when they committed to play in Coach Z's system if Coach Z leaves for a bigger opportunity, they should atleast be afforded the opportunity to follow the coach they basically helped build up.

What I dont think you will see, is what everyone seems to fear and thats Kentucky poaching VCU's top Junior Guard to join a college superteam and provide veteran leadership for a group of 5 prospective OADs. I just dont think the top senior talent would bail like that when they are set to lead their own team and have to impress a whole new coaching staff and mesh with a new set of players and potentially lose their starting spot.

VCU isn’t really a mid-major anymore, and I don’t think you will that much power six movement. What I do see are top players from the Ball State’s of the world jumping ship for sure. There is no doubt this would seriously hurt the mid to low majors.

 

[IndySouthsider]

Be the end of my college basketball viewing. Really the sport is in such a free fall anyhow.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

I agree. People are freaking out for nothing. It is going to be a one time chance also, not a situation where guys could just transfer three times or something like that. Once and then again if they graduate so technically twice but as a graduate student the second time. Again, don't think it is going to be the wild west people are scared of.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Top teir coaches can let players, they were interested in, try-out at another college before officially offering them to join the team.

"We're interested but go to WKU for a year or two and then we'll take you on board".

 

[LTDukeFan]

Top teir coaches can let players, they were interested in, try-out at another college before officially offering them to join the team.

"We're interested but go to WKU for a year or two and then we'll take you on board".

Bingo. Nailed it.

 

[xWVU2010x]

VCU isn’t really a mid-major anymore, and I don’t think you will that much power six movement. What I do see are top players from the Ball State’s of the world jumping ship for sure. There is no doubt this would seriously hurt the mid to low majors.

If it shakes out that way, does it really matter if KenPom #160 loses its best player? Will just improve the level of play at the level people actually watch.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Bingo. Nailed it.

Smaller schools will become the G-League for the top schools. Coaches might start to send assistants (scouts) to other school's games.

Recruiting will change as we know it.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

If history shows us anything. KU and UF will benefit the most.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Smaller schools will become the G-League for the top schools. Coaches might start to send assistants (scouts) to other school's games.

Recruiting will change as we know it.

Again, who cares if CUSA’s competitiveness drops a peg?

 

[Big_C_KU]

If history shows us anything. KU and UF will benefit the most.

Too bad it didn't go into effect this year. Can only imagine how goos we'd be with the Lawson bros and Charlie Moore.

 

[coryfly]

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Right. That's what I said. Once until you graduate and then again. That would make the three schools. It isn't like you can transfer multiple times unless you graduate. Then it is still twice without sitting out at most and one of those is as a graduate student.

 

[VulvHa]

Again, who cares if CUSA’s competitiveness drops a peg?

I’m sure the coaches, other players, students, and fans of those teams care

 

[speedfrk]

For once the NCAA does something to benefit their athletes rather than themselves.

They still have an angle. They get to market the athlete sooner. It'll also hopefully dissuade them from playing overseas instead.

 

[LTDukeFan]

It is going to be surreal in 10-20 years when you have to explain the way that college basketball use to be.

smh.

 

[xWVU2010x]

I’m sure the coaches, other players, students, and fans of those teams care

Not really

 

[RR30]

It is going to be surreal in 10-20 years when you have to explain the way that college basketball use to be.

smh.

College sports will be dead in 20 years so you don't have to worry about that.

 

[Untouchables22]

Again, who cares if CUSA’s competitiveness drops a peg?

You risk downgrading the NCAA tournament in a major way. The tourney is the goose that lays the golden eggs and pretty much finances everything. If all mid majors and below loose all their quality guys there are going to be sunstantially less upsets in the tournament. And the tournament is crazy popular because of the madness. I would strongly caution against doing anything that downgrades the tournament and risk killing that golden goose.

 

[xWVU2010x]

You risk downgrading the NCAA tournament in a major way. The tourney is the goose that lays the golden eggs and pretty much finances everything. If all mid majors and below loose all their quality guys there are going to be sunstantially less upsets in the tournament. And the tournament is crazy popular because of the madness. I would strongly caution against doing anything that downgrades the tournament and risk killing that golden goose.

So long as the autobid system is in place there will be plenty of opportunities for the NCAA Tournament upsets that everyone craves. Regardless of what the transfer rules are, all of the mid/low majors will still have their scholarships, there is no shortage of basketball players in this country looking to earn those scholarships, and the cream of those conferences will always rise to the top and have a chance to pull a shocker on a big stage. If people cared about the actual quality of play of CUSA and like conferences then their ratings/attendance wouldnt be in the toilet. There are very few basketball purists out there and the ones that do exist are not big enough to make a difference of noticing a slight downtick in the quality of MAC conference play.

 

[UKBlitzkrieg]

There's gonna be a few rosters that get devastated each off season to match coaching changes. Both hirings and firings.

 

[xWVU2010x]

There's gonna be a few rosters that get devastated each off season to match coaching changes. Both hirings and firings.

What I think the most likely scenario is that will make everyone freak out is Coach K retires, Duke goes and gets (just for the sake of argument) Jay Wright, and most of Villanova's key returning players that make up a preseason top 10 team follow coach Wright to Duke.

As a fan, yes that will irk me, but players, and really the players rights should be coming first since they are not compensated for the money they generate, should be afforded the right to follow the coach they committed to. They have lives also and many will look to join the coaching ranks, and being able to follow their coach without penalty is beneficial to the athlete. The fan's interests should be secondary unless the NCAA wants to open up the checkbook and fairly compensate the athletes for the revenue they generate.

 

[mebeblue2]

What I think the most likely scenario is that will make everyone freak out is Coach K retires, Duke goes and gets (just for the sake of argument) Jay Wright, and most of Villanova's key returning players that make up a preseason top 10 team follow coach Wright to Duke.

As a fan, yes that will irk me, but players, and really the players rights should be coming first since they are not compensated for the money they generate, should be afforded the right to follow the coach they committed to. They have lives also and many will look to join the coaching ranks, and being able to follow their coach without penalty is beneficial to the athlete. The fan's interests should be secondary unless the NCAA wants to open up the checkbook and fairly compensate the athletes for the revenue they generate.

you don't think that full ride scholarship is compensation?
not to mention all the perks they get that a normal student does not get
how many $200.00 + pair of sneakers do you own?

with no requirements this is a very bad idea

 

[xWVU2010x]

you don't think that full ride scholarship is compensation?
not to mention all the perks they get that a normal student does not get
how many $200.00 + pair of sneakers do you own?

with no requirements this is a very bad idea

The compensation for the Star Duke player is equal to the 12th man for MD Eastern Shore. Clearly someone is making out like a bandit and it’s not the players.