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Hagans and Quickley return... Herro and Johnson likely gone.

So how many were on the bench?

I sort of see the starting versus not starting as a weird distinction. I guess the idea is that a 5* on the bench is not living up to rating? Maybe the 4* is playing above it? Or is it the 5* players on the bench are the same position as the starters?

Here was their 5*s (and class rank) based on 247:
- PJ Washington (15th in 2017)
- Nick Richards (18th in 2017)
- Quade Green (26th in 2017. Left mid year)
- EJ Montgomery (9th in 2018)
- Ashton Hagans (12th in 2018)
- Keldon Johnson (13th in 2018)
- Immanuel Quickley (22nd in 2018)

I’ll agree that there weren’t any players at the top of the rating system, but that’s a lot of 5* guys. Started the year with 7 and ending with 6.

I’m not defending duke on this point because I’m not a fan and they had the most top tier raw talent of any program. But the argument coming from a Kentucky fan was a little odd based on their roster. Going into the season everyone was taking about this being the best mix of talent and experience Cal has had since 2015.
 
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I sort of see the starting versus not starting as a weird distinction. I guess the idea is that a 5* on the bench is not living up to rating? Maybe the 4* is playing above it? Or is it the 5* players on the bench are the same position as the starters?

Here was their 5*s (and class rank) based on 247:
- PJ Washington (15th in 2017)
- Nick Richards (18th in 2017)
- Quade Green (26th in 2017. Left mid year)
- EJ Montgomery (9th in 2018)
- Ashton Hagans (12th in 2018)
- Keldon Johnson (13th in 2018)
- Immanuel Quickley (22nd in 2018)

I’ll agree that there weren’t any players at the top of the rating system, but that’s a lot of 5* guys. Started the year with 7 and ending with 6.

I’m not defending duke on this point because I’m not a fan and they had the most top tier raw talent of any program. But the argument coming from a Kentucky fan was a little odd based on their roster. Going into the season everyone was taking about this being the best mix of talent and experience Cal has had since 2015.
Beginning of the season they’ll tout how many 5 stars they have, and if the season doesn’t go as planned, they’ll start shifting the narrative to “our 5 stars were practically 4 stars, etc” lol fascinating.
 
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Hagans, Johnson, Montgomery, Washington, Richards, Quickley, all 5 stars with Herro & Travis being rated in the top 40. Wtf are you talking about? Lol yikes.
Can't you read idiot? I said starters. Duke had all 5 starters that were 5 star and Kentucky starters were not all 5 star recruits. Both Travis and Herro were not 5 star recruits out of High School. Some idiots can;t read.
 
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Beginning of the season they’ll tout how many 5 stars they have, and if the season doesn’t go as planned, they’ll start shifting the narrative to “our 5 stars were practically 4 stars, etc” lol fascinating.
What a ****ing loser group of fans.
 
Can't you read idiot? I said starters. Duke had all 5 starters that were 5 star and Kentucky starters were not all 5 star recruits. Both Travis and Herro were not 5 star recruits out of High School. Some idiots can;t read.
So you have more 5 star recruits but choose to play 4 stars over them and that makes you less talented somehow? 2 top 5 teams on one roster couldn't make a final four or get a 1 seed, embarrassing.
 
So you have more 5 star recruits but choose to play 4 stars over them and that makes you less talented somehow? 2 top 5 teams on one roster couldn't make a final four or get a 1 seed, embarrassing.
I guess you are embarrassed.
 
Ok. It's nice to have Kentucky fans pimping our draft picks instead of their own these days.
Duke’s Greatest Recruiting Class Is Coach K’s Ultimate Failure
The Blue Devils have changed with the times, becoming the premier NBA factory in all of college basketball. But that shift has come with a significant cost. This era of Duke is the least successful of Coach K’s tenure, and it’s no secret why.
 
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Ok. It's nice to have Kentucky fans pimping our draft picks instead of their own these days.
Duke’s Greatest Recruiting Class Is Coach K’s Ultimate Failure
The Blue Devils have changed with the times, becoming the premier NBA factory in all of college basketball. But that shift has come with a significant cost. This era of Duke is the least successful of Coach K’s tenure, and it’s no secret why.
 
Duke’s Greatest Recruiting Class Is Coach K’s Ultimate Failure
The Blue Devils have changed with the times, becoming the premier NBA factory in all of college basketball. But that shift has come with a significant cost. This era of Duke is the least successful of Coach K’s tenure, and it’s no secret why.
Such a sad human being.
 
Can't you read idiot? I said starters. Duke had all 5 starters that were 5 star and Kentucky starters were not all 5 star recruits. Both Travis and Herro were not 5 star recruits out of High School. Some idiots can;t read.
I can, Hagans and Keldon were starters. Does Kentucky field a two man team? Christ you’re ******ed. Herro and Travis were the lowest recruited players for UK at #37 and #39. Also Duke occasionally started Javin Delaurier and Jack White and Goldwire who weren’t 5 stars. So that spoils your pathetic narrative.
 
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So you have more 5 star recruits but choose to play 4 stars over them and that makes you less talented somehow? 2 top 5 teams on one roster couldn't make a final four or get a 1 seed, embarrassing.
Very embarrassing. I wonder what poor red neck hole Kl was shit out of as a baby?
 
I can, Hagans and Keldon were starters. Does Kentucky field a two man team? Christ you’re ******ed. Herro and Travis were the lowest recruited players for UK at #37 and #39. Also Duke occasionally started Javin Delaurier and Jack White and Goldwire who weren’t 5 stars. So that spoils your pathetic narrative.
Where were Dukes's players rated compared to UK's? That shoots down your idiotic post.
 
Where were Dukes's players rated compared to UK's? That shoots down your idiotic post.
Doesn’t really matter, you guys at six 5 stars and a mix of highly rated 4 stars, your narrative is dookie, just like your posting. Cry it out.
 
Doesn’t really matter, you guys at six 5 stars and a mix of highly rated 4 stars, your narrative is dookie, just like your posting. Cry it out.
The main thing is UK beat Louisville as usual and Louisville did not even make the NCAA tournament and flamed out in the NIT.
 
Lol, nope. You just don’t follow basketball, and come here to troll. I own you, you are my pet.
You need to own up to be a fan of the most corrupt school to ever play college basketball. So corrupt the school had to fire the basketball coach and Athletic Director
 
You need to own up to be a fan of the most corrupt school to ever play college basketball. So corrupt the school had to fire the basketball coach and Athletic Director
Quiet now little pet, it’s almost nap time for you.
 
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Cal owns you and the Cards. You guys are UK's little play toy. One win since Cal has been at Kentucky. It is not even a rivalry anymore.
You seem rustled, don’t get to upset before your tummy time and nap. Like I said, you’re my little pet. My little ******.
 
You seem rustled, don’t get to upset before your tummy time and nap. Like I said, you’re my little pet. My little ******.
Truth hurts sometimes I guess. I look forward to another beat down this year.
 
Louisville did not even make the NCAA tournament and flamed out in the NIT.
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Have a good nap. You can dream about Katina and her whores.
I’ll be putting you to bed shortly little guy. Adults rest at night, my little pet needs his nap during the day. You got a big day ahead of you tomorrow, filled with skewing facts and trolling! Rest up my little ******! Laughing
 
I’ll be putting you to bed shortly little guy. Adults rest at night, my little pet needs his nap during the day. You got a big day ahead of you tomorrow, filled with skewing facts and trolling! Rest up my little ******! Laughing
I won't call you a ******. You are not smart enough.
 
And Duke had 3 of the top 5 freshman according to rivals and two of those freshman will be selected 1 and 2 in the upcoming NBA draft. A real flame out by K and Duke.
Just curious----is this worse than NOT making the tournament with 4, Five stars in the line-up? Asking for a friend...:D
 
Just curious----is this worse than NOT making the tournament with 4, Five stars in the line-up? Asking for a friend...:D
It doesn't matter who you have on the roster. It is all about winning. Something IU hasn't figured out how to do.
 
Can't you read idiot? I said starters. Duke had all 5 starters that were 5 star and Kentucky starters were not all 5 star recruits. Both Travis and Herro were not 5 star recruits out of High School. Some idiots can't read.
 
Doesn’t really matter, you guys at six 5 stars and a mix of highly rated 4 stars, your narrative is dookie, just like your posting. Cry it out.
You're a ****ing imbecile. Top 5 recruits are almost exclusively a lot better players and prospects than guys rated in the 20s. Just because they are both 5 stars doesn't mean there isnt a world of difference between them. Of course, since louisville rarely gets 5 star players and NEVER gets top 5 players, I shouldn't expect you to understand this.
 
You're a ****ing imbecile. Top 5 recruits are almost exclusively a lot better players and prospects than guys rated in the 20s. Just because they are both 5 stars doesn't mean there isnt a world of difference between them. Of course, since louisville rarely gets 5 star players and NEVER gets top 5 players, I shouldn't expect you to understand this.
You wear a fedora and cry any game Kentucky loses, blaming it on the refs. You calling anyone an imbecile is ****ing laughable. Kys.
 
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Also the whole guys rated in the 20s is a flat out lie. Here’s Kentucky’s roster via 247 sports rankings:

EJ Montgomery #9
Ashton Hagans #12
Keldon Johnson #13
PJ Washington #15
Nick Richards #18
Immanuel Quickley # 22
Quade Green #26

Man you guys really got the short end of the stick in recruiting :rolleyes:
 
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