Ok he is doing that loud whisper thing. Will you guys please just get the f%@$% jab so I don't have to hear him anymore?How eloquently did he put it? The guy has a certain way with words.
Ok he is doing that loud whisper thing. Will you guys please just get the f%@$% jab so I don't have to hear him anymore?How eloquently did he put it? The guy has a certain way with words.
Definitely Bert, considering he’s a self-proclaimed racist. You’re awful though, but a little less lame than Phil. 🤝I could name somebody far worse than either.
Any guesses?
This is the only board I visit thankfully. It’s the most “real” board of the ones I posted on in the past. Still good content even after the reformat in 2015.It's good for a laugh. Not as fun as it used to be. The conservative take your ball and go home type was disappointing. Not surprising. A lot of the ones that are left are a bunch of try hards and the libs are hard to distinguish between being mentally ill or trolling the conservatives. A lot less fun non political OT threads than there used to be. And of course, they're all millionaires.
Coming from somebody who thinks declassified documents are conspiracy theory but believes in alien coverups, I take that as a compliment. 😂Definitely Bert, considering he’s a self-proclaimed racist. You’re awful though, but a little less lame than Phil. 🤝
Your understanding of VAERS death numbers is comically bad. I thought you were a clever troll but it seems you’re just a simple man.But is a guy named after one of the lamest Beatles songs really an authority on such things?
Coming from somebody who thinks declassified documents are conspiracy theory but believes in alien coverups, I take that as a compliment. 😂
What is my understanding of VAERS? I'm curious.Your understanding of VAERS death numbers is comically bad. I thought you were a clever troll but it seems you’re just a simple man.
You seem to think that all the deaths reported in VAERS are because of the vaccine. 1 that’s def not true. 2 even if it were, it’s a statistically insignificant number.What is my understanding of VAERS? I'm curious.
Figured that's what you'd say. And you're completely wrong.You seem to think that all the deaths reported in VAERS are because of the vaccine. 1 that’s def not true. 2 even if it were, it’s a statistically insignificant number.
#blessyoreheart
Maybe you changed your tune but I saw where you attributed 11k deaths to the vaccine. Is that your position?Figured that's what you'd say. And you're completely wrong.
Reading comprehension helps.
I never said it was responsible for all the deaths. I think I specifically mentioned that twice.Maybe you changed your tune but I saw where you attributed 11k deaths to the vaccine. Is that your position?
I never said it was responsible for all the deaths. I think I specifically mentioned that twice.
Not sure where you got that number. Several thousand vaccinated Americans have died (some sources say over 11,000). Which would be 200x more than the swine flu vaccine campaign in the 70s. And that program was cancelled. Yet this is shrugged off. Go figure.
In the first four months alone, there were more deaths following Covid vaccinations than all available vaccines combined from 1997 to 2013. And the death toll is far higher now.
Covid didn't cause a lot of the deaths included in the statistics, and even by the "official" numbers, most of us have, what, a 99.97% chance of survival?
Why is one significant but not the other?
If you're being rational, 11,400 (and climbing) is significant no matter how it's spun. Like I said, a vaccination program in the 70s was halted after 53 deaths.
You are sure as shit implying the vaccine is responsible for those 11k deaths. And lol at saying the vaccine has killed more than COVID.First off, didn't this start with you asking why anyone would hesitate to get the vaccine? We gave you 11,400 reasons. End of story.
Do you honestly need to hear that there are more deaths from the vaccine than Covid (in only 7 months, btw) to even start to question its safety? Insanity.
Again, a vaccine program in the 70s was deemed unsafe and cancelled after 53 deaths. But "nothing to see here."
Nowhere did I say either of those things. I said that several thousand vaccinated Americans died. Nice try.You are sure as shit implying the vaccine is responsible for those 11k deaths. And lol at saying the vaccine has killed more than COVID.
I get where you are going. You're probably not wrong. But are you equally concerned with the number of reported covid deaths that aren't really covid deaths?You are sure as shit implying the vaccine is responsible for those 11k deaths. And lol at saying the vaccine has killed more than COVID.
You said the vaccine killed more people than COVID this year. Am I taking crazy pills?Nowhere did I say either of those things. I said that several thousand vaccinated Americans died. Nice try.
So, again, how many would you expect to drop dead from the vaccine in half a year?
Not at all. COVID deaths have been underreported actually. 2020 saw an excess death count of 520,000 people (more than the reported COVID deaths for 2020). That was the biggest jump in our country’s history.I get where you are going. You're probably not wrong. But are you equally concerned with the number of reported covid deaths that aren't really covid deaths?
Covid assisted, or covid caused?You said the vaccine killed more people than COVID this year. Am I taking crazy pills?
Not at all. COVID deaths have been underreported actually. 2020 saw an excess death count of 520,000 people (more than the reported COVID deaths for 2020). That was the biggest jump in our country’s history.
U.S. excess deaths rose nearly 23 percent in 2020, study finds
Black Americans experienced the highest per capita excess death rates, while regional surges contributed to higher excess death rates from COVID-19 and other causes, a new study finds.www.sciencedaily.com
Both. Again, we had a 23% jump in deaths year over year. Normally it’s like 2%. People peddle the false narrative that doctors/hospitals are fudging the numbers. But the death count doesn’t bear that out. In fact, it’s just the opposite. How do you explain the that huge spike in deaths?Covid assisted, or covid caused?
top 4 causes of death 2020 heart disease cancer COVID, COVID vaccine amirite?Both. Again, we had a 23% jump in deaths year over year. Normally it’s like 2%. People peddle the false narrative that doctors/hospitals are fudging the numbers. But the death count doesn’t bear that out. In fact, it’s just the opposite. How do you explain the that huge spike in deaths?
I don't challenge that covid is the top reason for the increase in deaths. I just question how many of those deaths were caused by covid without any other underlying conditions. I question whether those deaths were unrelated to the virus, but linked to the effects. We saw an increase in drug deaths, homicides, domestic homicides, suicides and other causes of death not related to the virus. Obviously the virus is the root cause of the excess deaths. You also have to consider the age of people who were dying of covid. At the beginning of the pandemic the average age of death was 82. As we have progressed, the average age has lowered to 79. We won't ever know what the numbers of deaths would look like in the real world.Both. Again, we had a 23% jump in deaths year over year. Normally it’s like 2%. People peddle the false narrative that doctors/hospitals are fudging the numbers. But the death count doesn’t bear that out. In fact, it’s just the opposite. How do you explain the that huge spike in deaths?
Yeah...you’re loco.You said the vaccine killed more people than COVID this year. Am I taking crazy pills?
Not at all. COVID deaths have been underreported actually. 2020 saw an excess death count of 520,000 people (more than the reported COVID deaths for 2020). That was the biggest jump in our country’s history.
U.S. excess deaths rose nearly 23 percent in 2020, study finds
Black Americans experienced the highest per capita excess death rates, while regional surges contributed to higher excess death rates from COVID-19 and other causes, a new study finds.www.sciencedaily.com
We will get a pretty good handle on the impact of COVID in the coming years. Actuaries are good at numbers.I don't challenge that covid is the top reason for the increase in deaths. I just question how many of those deaths were caused by covid without any other underlying conditions. I question whether those deaths were unrelated to the virus, but linked to the effects. We saw an increase in drug deaths, homicides, domestic homicides, suicides and other causes of death not related to the virus. Obviously the virus is the root cause of the excess deaths. You also have to consider the age of people who were dying of covid. At the beginning of the pandemic the average age of death was 82. As we have progressed, the average age has lowered to 79. We won't ever know what the numbers of deaths would look like in the real world.
Good question honestly.I wonder how much of the increase in deaths has to do with all the cancelled dr's appointments, very limited health screenings, etc... due to the covid shutdowns.
24/7 in your little pea bran.I bet Phil and co. were popping boners left and right when Loose Change came out.
What can I say. I like to laugh at both of you. 😂 Sorry that rustles you.24/7 in your little pea bran.
So, Ticket ol’ buddy, you haven’t answered the question. How many vaccine-caused deaths should be expected in 7 months?
Ok. I see my point was lost on you.I mean....I asked three times. Not sure what's confusing about it.
You said that, even if all 11,400 deaths could be attributed to the vaccine, that it would be an insignificant total. So how many deaths would you expect a vaccine to cause?
You need to change from to with bc it makes it seem like you mean the vaccine itself is doing the killing, imo.Nowhere did I say either of those things. I said that several thousand vaccinated Americans died. Nice try.
So, again, how many would you expect to drop dead from the vaccine in half a year?
But he doesn't mean it that way. Ya see they tell you the covid death total is less due to other conditions, but when they talk about the vaccine killing people they all of a sudden forget that argument. Nothing is driving their argument but fear and anxiety as they can't understand the numbers and what they mean. Hence my comment earlier about the correlation between education and low vaccine rates.You need to change from to with bc it makes it seem like you mean the vaccine itself is doing the killing, imo.
For a self-proclaimed intelligent person, you seem to struggle mightily with reading comprehension.Ok. I see my point was lost on you.
- If 11,000 people died after 300MM doses of vaccines were administered, that would be a death rate of 0.00003667. That is a statistically insignificant event.
- however, we intelligent people know 11k people haven’t died from the vaccine.
If you choose to take your chances with COVID over tha vaccine, I have to seriously question your intelligence.
I was told not to argue with dumb people and dammit, here I am. You do you.For a self-proclaimed intelligent person, you seem to struggle mightily with reading comprehension.
Again...I'm not saying that 11k died from the vaccine. It was a response to your remark that it would still be an insignificant number if they had. Significance is relative. How does it compare to past vaccination programs?
The CDC held an emergency meeting due to what you would consider an extremely insignificant statistic regarding heart inflammation in young people. Because it was higher than expected.
The chance of surviving Covid at my age is about 99.99%. Insanely low chance of death, yet to you it's foolish to "take my chances." 😆 If you want to argue that it's my duty to help protect those over 70, that's a completely different argument.
IF 11,400 of 160+ million vaccinated had died FROM the vaccine through 7 mo (again IF IF IF), I'm pretty certain that would be considered significant by any honest and reasonable human being.
Also, it's pretty stupid to make any strong declarations of safety at this point. Many, many more than 11,400 have suffered from serious side effects and you have absolutely no clue what the longterm effects could be.
Why is it so hard for people to just admit that you're guinea pigs for an experimental technology?
I was told not to argue with dumb people and dammit, here I am. You do you.
Take a look @ the NBA Declaration threadYeah, you just hate trolling and arguing.
Some people are too far gone to bother withYeah, you just hate trolling and arguing.
Why would you compare it to past vaccines and not the disease it's trying to prevent? Which number is higher, you're age group dying from covid or the vaccine? What about you spreading the disease to others who are more vulnerable?For a self-proclaimed intelligent person, you seem to struggle mightily with reading comprehension.
Again...I'm not saying that 11k died from the vaccine. It was a response to your remark that it would still be an insignificant number if they had. Significance is relative. How does it compare to past vaccination programs?
The CDC held an emergency meeting due to what you would consider an extremely insignificant statistic regarding heart inflammation in young people. Because it was higher than expected.
The chance of surviving Covid at my age is about 99.99%. Insanely low chance of death, yet to you it's foolish to "take my chances." 😆 If you want to argue that it's my duty to help protect those over 70, that's a completely different argument.
IF 11,400 of 160+ million vaccinated had died FROM the vaccine through 7 mo (again IF IF IF), I'm pretty certain that would be considered significant by any honest and reasonable human being.
Also, it's pretty stupid to make any strong declarations of safety at this point. Many, many more than 11,400 have suffered from serious side effects and you have absolutely no clue what the longterm effects could be.
Why is it so hard for people to just admit that you're guinea pigs for an experimental technology?