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Brad Stevens to Duke?

The Big 12 hurts Kansas. I think that’s why so many good Kansas teams have failed in the tournament. In the ACC you play better competition and you’re involved in big time famed more often. Kansas just feasts on lower caliber teams. Great program though, no doubt about it.

Well, nevermind the fact that the B12 generally ranks highly and posts good OOC records...KU fails in the tourney vs midmajors. Self had won 12 straight vs Calipari, K, Roy and Huggins before the loss to Kentucky this year.

He’s 4-0 vs Roy and K in the tourney, but can’t beat the Missouri Valley. I don’t think your theory holds up.
 
Well, nevermind the fact that the B12 generally ranks highly and posts good OOC records...KU fails in the tourney vs midmajors. Self had won 12 straight vs Calipari, K, Roy and Huggins before the loss to Kentucky this year.

He’s 4-0 vs Roy and K in the tourney, but can’t beat the Missouri Valley. I don’t think your theory holds up.

Maybe. It’s not just the teams though. Kansas has the talent to beat anyone. UNC, Duke, you name it. Kansas is, well, uh, they get their guys like the other blue bloods. I think it has more to do with the pressure situations.

They don’t feel that as much in the regular season and thus fail. Again, they have the talent to beat anyone.
 
Well, nevermind the fact that the B12 generally ranks highly and posts good OOC records...KU fails in the tourney vs midmajors. Self had won 12 straight vs Calipari, K, Roy and Huggins before the loss to Kentucky this year.

He’s 4-0 vs Roy and K in the tourney, but can’t beat the Missouri Valley. I don’t think your theory holds up.
Self may not survive the FBI wiretaps and may not even be coaching in the NCAA tournament.
 
Stevens will stay in the NBA. It’s a much better product and you don’t have to deal with the recruiting stuff.
 
In the podcast, Chansky says that Stevens said he’d only leave Boston for Dook OR Carolina. Interesting they left that out of the tweet.
Yeah, but we know how insecure of a fan Q is. Par for the course. Lol.
 
Stevens will stay in the NBA. It’s a much better product and you don’t have to deal with the recruiting stuff.

Didn't you start a thread a while back that recently got bumped? The spelling of Gater stands out.
 
K is immortal- only way Steven's gets the Duke job would be for him to trick K into going outside in daylight or drive a wooden stake through his heart.
 
Stevens will stay in the NBA. It’s a much better product and you don’t have to deal with the recruiting stuff.
On top of that, he has the full backing of Ainge and ownership. Very few coaches in the league have any real power. BS is one who does and he’s at a storied franchise. Boston will fight hard to keep him.
 
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Reminds me of all of the Billy Donovan to UK slants. When it came time to make the move, he scoffed - twice. And this is a guy who coached there previously and would be following a coach who was underachieving (Tubby) and then an absolute train wreck (Gillispie).

I can't fathom any reason why Stevens, or any big time coach who can practically pick the school they want to coach at, choosing to follow K. Literally zero upside and all that downside.

Logic says Duke will shoot for the moon (go after someone like Stevens) and land in the trailer park (a former K assistant). You need that initial sacrificial lamb and then make a run at someone good when he flames out.
 
Reminds of all of the Billy Donovan to UK slants. When it came time to make the move, he scoffed - twice. And this is a guy who coached there previously and would be following a coach who was underachieving (Tubby) and then an absolute train wreck (Gillispie).

I can't fathom any reason why Stevens, or any big time coach who can practically pick the school they want to coach at, choosing to follow K. Literally zero upside and all that downside.

Logic says Duke will shoot for the moon (go after someone like Stevens) and land in the trailer park (a former K assistant). You need that initial sacrificial lamb and then make a run at someone good when he flames out.
Joe B. Hall followed Rupp quite well. But I do agree with you, most good coaches would not want to do that. One advantage for Joe was he was Rupps asst. for years.
 
Joe B. Hall followed Rupp quite well. But I do agree with you, most good coaches would not want to do that. One advantage for Joe was he was Rupps asst. for years.

True - maybe someone like a Wojo or Capel can step in and do a decent job but that's not likely. And even if they pull off a Joe B like run - they'll still be living K's shadows and never truly respected by the masses until maybe after they retire (just like Joe B).

You never willingly follow someone who is the best at their craft when you have real options because you're doomed to fail. I can't see Stevens wanting to take that on until after expectations are brought back to earth.
 
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Maybe. It’s not just the teams though. Kansas has the talent to beat anyone. UNC, Duke, you name it. Kansas is, well, uh, they get their guys like the other blue bloods. I think it has more to do with the pressure situations.

They don’t feel that as much in the regular season and thus fail. Again, they have the talent to beat anyone.

They didn’t have the talent to beat Nova, Kentucky, etc.

They generally don’t have the same level of talent as a Kentucky, Duke or UNC. Which is why they have more early losses to inferior teams. The teams that failed didn’t have enough talent to sleepwalk past a fundamentally sound midmajor. But Calipari, K and Roy generally do. John Wall and Cousins couldn’t lose to Bradley or Bucknell if they tried. I don’t think Zion and Barrett are too worried about the Missouri Valley either.
 
Reminds me of all of the Billy Donovan to UK slants. When it came time to make the move, he scoffed - twice. And this is a guy who coached there previously and would be following a coach who was underachieving (Tubby) and then an absolute train wreck (Gillispie).

I can't fathom any reason why Stevens, or any big time coach who can practically pick the school they want to coach at, choosing to follow K. Literally zero upside and all that downside.

Logic says Duke will shoot for the moon (go after someone like Stevens) and land in the trailer park (a former K assistant). You need that initial sacrificial lamb and then make a run at someone good when he flames out.
Sorta like Carolina did altho it is jist blind luck that Williams was a Tar Heel. The coach following K is in a super tough spot, even if a Dukie. An outsider? Good luck with that. He will be criticized for not farting like Coach K.
 
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