LOL. No Auburn, Alabama, Iowa St. Or Florida in the top 50. Yet Duke fans think this dude is gospel.
Bart Torvik's preseason rankings...
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@dukedevilz the Duke fanbase like to cite Torvik all the time. Explain this. This is perhaps the worst preseason top 25 I have ever seen based on actual results
Here? I’m not saying it’s not happened, it’s a genuine question. I can only recall ever seeing @ExitFlagger (I think) reference it here
Few folks on here have cited Torvik. I'm sure I have a few times, but I'd say KenPom is the more trusted analytic tool.
I don't know what Torvik's methodology is, I always thought he was aggregating recruiting rankings mixed with experience levels. Clearly there's some flaw in this if he has Virginia at #4 - and leaves out several notable top teams.
I will say, however, that his preseason projections look quite reasonable. He had St. John's at #16, when they were not ranked in the preseason polls. He had KU and Alabama at 4 and 9, when most polls had them at #1 and #2... So yeah, not sure how the "most talented rosters" is measured, but his preseason projections are more than reasonable, IMO.
To be fair this is purely to do with talent and not chemistry. However it's still clearly wrong how he has UVA at 4 is mind blowing
Yeah pretty ballzy call on St. Johns in the preseason.Few folks on here have cited Torvik. I'm sure I have a few times, but I'd say KenPom is the more trusted analytic tool.
I don't know what Torvik's methodology is, I always thought he was aggregating recruiting rankings mixed with experience levels. Clearly there's some flaw in this if he has Virginia at #4 - and leaves out several notable top teams.
I will say, however, that his preseason projections look quite reasonable. He had St. John's at #16, when they were not ranked in the preseason polls. He had KU and Alabama at 4 and 9, when most polls had them at #1 and #2... So yeah, not sure how the "most talented rosters" is measured, but his preseason projections are more than reasonable, IMO.
Talent is going to be much harder to realize with the crazy transfer portal. Solid old guys are going to win vs "talented" freshman for the most part save the very very top guys.Few folks on here have cited Torvik. I'm sure I have a few times, but I'd say KenPom is the more trusted analytic tool.
I don't know what Torvik's methodology is, I always thought he was aggregating recruiting rankings mixed with experience levels. Clearly there's some flaw in this if he has Virginia at #4 - and leaves out several notable top teams.
I will say, however, that his preseason projections look quite reasonable. He had St. John's at #16, when they were not ranked in the preseason polls. He had KU and Alabama at 4 and 9, when most polls had them at #1 and #2... So yeah, not sure how the "most talented rosters" is measured, but his preseason projections are more than reasonable, IMO.
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