ACC thread...

[mcnicKY91]

I'm not saying that what you are saying isn't true, I just don't think being heavily tested has as big an impact on tourney success as many people do. There are plenty of national champions throughout history, in both basketball and football that rolled through the regular season pretty easily. It probably helps some, but I just don't think it is as big a factor as many other people do. There's no way really to say how much it increases your odds of winning in the tournament if you play a bunch of close games throughout the year. I also don't think tourney results are a good way to measure ANYTHING. We both know that all it takes is one night of bad shooting or whatever and you can be beat by about anybody.

That's fine. There is definitely an element of randomness to tournament games. No doubt.

At the same time, if I had my choice between going into a tournament (that has an element of randomness) of being tested in conference or not being tested, I would choose the former. It's always nice to know if a team can handle adversity against good/really good competition.

Just my opinion.

 

[Blueheart32]

That's fine. There is definitely an element of randomness to tournament games. No doubt.

At the same time, if I had my choice between going into a tournament (that has an element of randomness) of being tested in conference or not being tested, I would choose the former. It's always nice to know if a team can handle adversity against good/really good competition.

Just my opinion.

Now that I do not disagree with at all. Yes, give me that every time. I just don't think not having it hurts my chances that much.

 

[bignish]

Do you know how Duke would handle it?

How would Auburn or Houston handle it? If a game is tight with a few minutes to go, clearly the other team is playing very well so its going to come down to who gets stops and who can hit some clutch shots. Being "battle tested" doesn't prepare you for that. There's a lot of variance involved then but you generally want the best player or 2 on the floor to create their own shot/draw a foul and the best X&O coach to draw up plays.

 

[mcnicKY91]

How would Auburn or Houston handle it? If a game is tight with a few minutes to go, clearly the other team is playing very well so its going to come down to who gets stops and who can hit some clutch shots. Being "battle tested" doesn't prepare you for that. There's a lot of variance involved then but you generally want the best player or 2 on the floor to create their own shot/draw a foul and the best X&O coach to draw up plays.

Being battle tested doesn't just come down to how a team navigates a close game in the tournament.

It moreso refers to handling adversity during the game. As an example, what if Duke is down by double digits against a really good team in the tourney with 10 min to go. How will they respond? Is there anything to draw upon from a similar experience earlier in the year....I always think experiences like that help.

 

[AuHoosier420]

Ok, let's remove the Arizona win, but also the ky loss because that was early in the season and we are playing better now. We shot 16% from the 3 point line, but average 37% now, so obviously we were not playing as good then. Oh, and remove the Kansas loss as well because that was early in the season and they aren't playing as well now as they were then. So now Duke is 21-0!! Headed to 40-0 baby!!! This getting to pick and choose which wins and losses you can claim is great!!

Sorry isaiah evans hasnt hit 6 threes in a game since the Auburn game and it was early and you only won by 6. So remove that win for Duke. Auburn is 22-0

 

[GhostOf301]

Being battle tested doesn't just come down to how a team navigates a close game in the tournament.

It moreso refers to handling adversity during the game. As an example, what if Duke is down by double digits against a really good team in the tourney with 10 min to go. How will they respond? Is there anything to draw upon from a similar experience earlier in the year....I always think experiences like that help.

Give it a rest man. No matter how many times a team is down double digits with ten minutes left, it's still an uncertainty to how they would handle it. This is the gayest argument.

 

[Blueheart32]

Give it a rest man. No matter how many times a team is down double digits with ten minutes left, it's still an uncertainty to how they would handle it. This is the gayest argument.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Very well could, Kentucky is heading towards the 8,9 seed range.

I hope you have an herpes outbreak.


Btw, we beat Duke.

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[cdbearde]

I hope you have an herpes outbreak.


Btw, we beat Duke.

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I would be curious what Duke is getting out of blowing out almost every conference opponent they play... There is no game pressure, whatsoever, in basically any of these games they are playing. Will be curious to see how they respond when facing adversity against actual competition (which...

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[mcnicKY91]

Give it a rest man. No matter how many times a team is down double digits with ten minutes left, it's still an uncertainty to how they would handle it. This is the gayest argument.

I am simply responding with my opinion on the importance of being battle tested. Sorry you don't agree.

And the above was just one example of being battle tested. There are many more examples. If you feel so inclined, do a quick Google search on the importance of being battle tested in team sports. You will quickly get hundreds of links of high profile coaches (including Coach K) talking about being battle tested and overcoming adversity. I guess they all have the gayest arguments as well. What do they know, right?

Why don't you tell your fellow Duke fans to give it a rest, as they keep responding to me and asking questions.

If you don't like what I post, then just ignore it, very simple. You come across as a very angry guy, for some reason.

 

[UL_1986]

I am simply responding with my opinion on the importance of being battle tested. Sorry you don't agree.

And the above was just one example of being battle tested. There are many more examples. If you feel so inclined, do a quick Google search on the importance of being battle tested in team sports. You will quickly get hundreds of links of high profile coaches (including Coach K) talking about being battle tested and overcoming adversity. I guess they all have the gayest arguments as well. What do they know, right?

Why don't you tell your fellow Duke fans to give it a rest, as they keep responding to me and asking questions.

If you don't like what I post, then just ignore it, very simple. You come across as a very angry guy, for some reason.

That's kind of the sole purpose of a message board, no?

 

[GhostOf301]

You come across as a very angry guy, for some reason.

You got me there. Keep obsessing over Duke's conference if it makes you feel good. Just figured it would get old whining about it after every Duke game.

 

[mcnicKY91]

That's kind of the sole purpose of a message board, no?

I agree with you.

But you see the problem right? Ghost tells me to give it a rest and that my argument is the gayest (despite hundreds of coaches talking about the importance of being battle tested and how that helps teams overcome adversity throughout the season).

Yet, I am responding to Duke posters who have questions about my position. Which is fine. I enjoy the good faith back and forth. No problem with them challenging my position. Yet, and get this one, Ghost tells me to give it a rest, even though I am just responding to questions about my position. He doesn't tell his fellow Duke fans to give it a rest, only me.

And the reason is solely because he doesn't like my opinion (even though hundreds of coaches would agree).

 

[GhostOf301]

I agree with you.

But you see the problem right? Ghost tells me to give it a rest and that my argument is the gayest (despite hundreds of coaches talking about the importance of being battle tested and how that helps teams overcome adversity throughout the season).

Yet, I am responding to Duke posters who have questions about my position. Which is fine. I enjoy the good faith back and forth. No problem with them challenging my position. Yet, and get this one, Ghost tells me to give it a rest, even though I am just responding to questions about my position. He doesn't tell his fellow Duke fans to give it a rest, only me.

And the reason is solely because he doesn't like my opinion (even though hundreds of coaches would agree).

You poor victim. Here, I apologize for telling you to give it a rest. It was never meant to hurt your feelings.

 

[mcnicKY91]

You got me there. Keep obsessing over Duke's conference if it makes you feel good. Just figured it would get old whining about it after every Duke game.

So now you are resorting to lying. Please provide evidence that I have been whining about it after every Duke game. Can't wait to see it.

Keep obsessing over my posts if that makes you feel good. Just figured it would get old whining about it every time I post (see how disingenuous that sounds?)

Common dude. You are a better poster than that.

 

[mcnicKY91]

You poor victim. Here, I apologize for telling you to give it a rest. It was never meant to hurt your feelings.

Haha, no one is a victim. I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy in telling me to give it a rest, yet all I am doing is responding to questions on my position.

Yet you have no problems with all the Duke fans giving their position.