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Duke can't control the level of their competition in conference play. So what they can get out of it is knowing that they can make who is supposed to be their bitch, their bitch. They played tonight's game on the road and without using Flagg as the go to guy. They focused on getting role players more involved, so you could say they got that out of it.
Duke not being tested get's mentioned a lot but I'm not sure it matters. 2000-01 Duke won their games by an average of 20.2
2014-15 Duke won their games by an average of 15.5
1996 Ky won their games by an average of 22
2014-15 ky won all theirs by an average of 20
Once the tournament starts I think that "being tested" throughout the season is out the window.
They might do like 5 of the 8 SEC teams did last year, lose in the first round.
You really have an anxiety/mental issue with the ACC. After decades of Kentucky benefiting from a bad SEC, you’re going to say that Duke can’t win because of their conference? Lol
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Where did I say that Duke can't win because of their conference? Please point to where I said that, unless you are just making things up again (which you love to do). The funny thing is (and this probably went right over your head while you were busy obsessing over my posts in this thread) is that you literally quoted a post of mine where I said Duke is no doubt a FF/championship contender team. Hahahaha, what a dope.
Second, this a is a college basketball message board. I post in all threads UK, KU, SEC, ACC, UL, Auburn, UNC, etc. Since you are busy tracking down my posts solely in an ACC thread (where ppl are going to talk about the conference), why don't you go track down all my other posts as well and let me know how obsessed I am with those other schools. You look like a fool.
Not quite sure that logic works.
First, this Duke team pales in comparison to 1996 and 2015 UK, as well as 2001 Duke. All of those teams were beyond dominant from a roster standpoint, and didn't rely for the majority of their output from freshmen. All three of those teams would slaughter this Duke team, in my opinion.
Second, the 2015 Duke team lost three games in the ACC regular season (in what was a vastly superior ACC compared to now), and also lost in the semis against ND in the conference tourney semis. They were plenty tested along the way.
Legit all this clown talks about. He has 600 posts and half of them are whining about the ACC being down. Yikes.
Interesting. You are stalking a poster's post count. Then turn around and say it's legit all I talk about. Then say half my posts are about the ACC being down (which directly contradicts what you just said about the ACC is all I talk about).
Since you and the other UL fan are beyond obsessed and concerned what I post about an a college basketball message board, and since you clearly have no lives, please take a look at all of my posts since I started posting on this board a few years ago, and tell me how many are about the ACC? You made the claim that half are, so I would love to see the support for this claim.
We all know you have the time, since you are beyond obsessed with what I post about, that you can perform this exercise. Can't wait to hear the results.
You post the same crybaby drivel about the ACC being down, it's boring. Lol stalking, dude you have 600 posts, and every time I log on here you're saying the same thing. At least JC is forthright with his pitiful trolling.
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Gotcha, so you have no facts, whatsoever, to support your claim. Which is exactly what I knew would happen, as you are 100% lying. I post on all sorts of college basketball topics, not just the suckage of the ACC.
Also, here is a little message board tip for you (although since you say I am new, not sure why I should have to tell you this, as you should already know)...if you don't like what I am posting about and it drives you to have to look at my post count and make up lies about what I post about, then IGNORE what I am saying. Not a hard concept dude.
How dare I mention in an ACC thread (that I didn't even create) my curiosity about Duke not being tested effecting their chances of a deep run? The horror. Sorry that bothers you so much.
You literally posted the same thing three times in this thread, w get it, you’re an SEC fan first.
Can’t really blame you for that
I’m not a huge believer that being tested helps teams all that much in March, and the rancid ACC is helping Duke undoubtedly, I think.
Duke is a very good team, just like Kansas, just like Auburn, just like Kentucky. Three teams that Duke has proven to be about 50/50 with. For this particular Duke team, I’ll take a clear path to a #1 seed rather than Flagg’s mettle being tested. Personally, I think a potential 8 - 4 - 2 path as opposed to a potential 6 - 2 - 1 path is much more valuable.
Duke is a very good team, just like Kansas, just like Auburn, just like Kentucky. Three teams that Duke has proven to be about 50/50 with. For this particular Duke team, I’ll take a clear path to a #1 seed rather than Flagg’s mettle being tested. Personally, I think a potential 8 - 4 - 2 path as opposed to a potential 6 - 2 - 1 path is much more valuable.
This is a thread (again which I did not create) about the ACC. The ACC sucks. If I want to post in this thread about the ACC sucking, then I will do so. If I want to say it repeatedly, then I will (even though my last post had to do with Duke not being tested and if that will or will not effect their tourney run). This thread has nothing to do with the SEC. At all. You are the one interjecting things about the SEC. Not me.
If my posting bothers you so much, then just ignore it. Very simple.
And it's funny, before this stupid back and forth with you two UL fans, there were 80 posts in this thread. Guess how many were mine? Three. Yep, I am super obsessed. Lol.
Almost everything I've seen you post on this board is crying about the ACC. We get it, the ACC is down and isn't good. It's your little passive aggressive slight to the few decent teams in the league after a win, is what I laugh about. You giving anyone tips on how to post is quite rich.
Lol dude is a broken record, and a master deflector. "bu bu bu, you're lying...you just lie"
Bro, if the ACC is slightly mentioned this guy is airlifted in, mouth and vagina drooling profusely.
Your insults are on the level of a pre-pubescent middle schooler. Try harder dude. Very weak.
Let me ask yoh this. If Duke loses in the sweet 16 to a lesser team. Will it be because Duke choked or because they weren't battle tested?
Good question.
Probably a little of both.
I just think there is a great value in playing in tough conference games every once in a while. I have no idea how Duke will respond against really good competition, as they will go through their 20 game conference schedule and ACC tourney without that testing, in my opinion. Maybe Clemson plays well this week, I don't know. All I can base Duke on is their results against UK, KU, and Auburn. Tough to glean anything from what is going on against ACC competition.
How that shakes out in March is anybody's guess.
So what can Duke do this year in order to get you what you want to see? Is this going to be a conversation after every 20+ point road win? I don't care how bad the ACC is, to consistently win by 20+ on the road is not an easy task for an average team.
I have said before, and I actually think it may have been in response to you, that Duke is no doubt a FF/championship contender. They are not an average team, whatsoever (nor have I ever come close to saying that).
My post was out of curiosity as to what Duke is getting out of rolling over substandard competition in almost every ACC game. Moreso to the point, how is the conference helping prepare them for March when they will eventually hit adversity against a good team. How will they respond to that is my question? When has Duke had to face adversity against a really good team this year? The only ones that come to mind are KU and UK (and I wouldn't even say they are really good at this point, good, but not really good). But that was so long ago, I have no idea how Duke would handle that now, as we don't get to see them put to the test by any good/really good teams in the ACC.
Do you know how Duke would handle it?
Think you have to throw Arizona in there as well. That was a 14 point road win against a ranked team.
His Kentucky team always did okay when playing in a weak SEC, now that the SEC is a good conference he’s trying to make everything ACC seem weak. Louisville did fine in every conference we’ve been in, all except the ACC, which I think is going to change with our coach. The SEC has always been the weakest (or the PAC) now that they are finally good, he doesn’t know how to think. lol
You can throw them in if you would like.
However, at that time when Duke beat them, AZ was in the process of losing 5/7 games and were playing like garbage.
Definitely look better now. Really good road win to have on the resume, but other then that, not much to take from it, in my opinion.
How bad would Kentucky beat Duke now? Yall beat them three months ago and you’ve been tested by Arkansas and the rest of the SEC. I guess by Duke not playing a tougher schedule that Kentucky wins easily this time?
Ok, let's remove the Arizona win, but also the ky loss because that was early in the season and we are playing better now. We shot 16% from the 3 point line, but average 37% now, so obviously we were not playing as good then. Oh, and remove the Kansas loss as well because that was early in the season and they aren't playing as well now as they were then. So now Duke is 21-0!! Headed to 40-0 baby!!! This getting to pick and choose which wins and losses you can claim is great!!
They have JB welded that thing and it is ready for action!!
Very well could, Kentucky is heading towards the 8,9 seed range.
When did I say anything about not claiming a win or removing a win? I even said the AZ win is good for the resume, which it is.
Yes, you are correct that those early season games don't mean much. And yes, since UK doesn't have a PG right now, I would anticipate Duke would win by 10-15 pts, rather easily. May even be worse then that.
However, the point still stands that Duke has not been tested by good competition since the non conference. I don't have any idea how they would respond against adversity against good competition, as all I can go on is what happened earlier this year, which isn't very applicable 3 plus months later.
I'm not saying that what you are saying isn't true, I just don't think being heavily tested has as big an impact on tourney success as many people do. There are plenty of national champions throughout history, in both basketball and football that rolled through the regular season pretty easily. It probably helps some, but I just don't think it is as big a factor as many other people do. There's no way really to say how much it increases your odds of winning in the tournament if you play a bunch of close games throughout the year. I also don't think tourney results are a good way to measure ANYTHING. We both know that all it takes is one night of bad shooting or whatever and you can be beat by about anybody.
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