I'll give you the top 4, but you're crazy if you think the last 3 should be ahead of UK.
If UL had UK's resume, there's no way you would put the Cards below aTm, Ole Miss and Miss State, no way.
You could argue the entire top 5 is SEC
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If UL had UK's resume, there's no way you would put the Cards below aTm, Ole Miss and Miss State, no way.
I can save the time and just go ahead and tell you you're wrong right now.
Penn State and USF were both Quad 1 wins. The Boise State loss was also a Q1 game. Yes, these are all quality games.
Sample size is so low right now I don't think it really matters, especially considering nobody really stands out the way UConn and Purdue did last year. There are a lot of good teams. But, the gap between #5 and #25 doesn't look particularly large to me.
How good are some of UKs fans claiming them to be?
I don't think it's unreasonable, as long as they don't get bit by the injury bug, for UK to make a FF run, based upon what I have seen thus far.
This team is the prototypical "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts."
As for the SEC, it will once again be a bloodbath. Won't shock me to see UK finish fifth, also wouldn't shock me to see UK win the reg season.
Irony. You post like you know more about our team than Kentucky fans
You dock us for being down against Duke and Gonzaga, but say nothing about winning the second half of those games by 14 and 17 points. Zero credit to UK. No reason we won other than Duke and Gonzaga choked.
Do you see how it’s hard to take your opinions seriously on UK right now? We are good again with a real coach who makes adjustments. I know it hurts.
There is no logic in putting Clemson ahead of Kentucky in any rankings. There is plenty of logic putting Kentucky ahead of Duke in rankings.
I'm not particularly concerned one way or the other. I'm simply saying Clemson does have multiple quality wins. It's debatable, but not that interesting of a conversation where we're debating over 3 or 4 data points.
The point is you can definitely make an argument that Duke is a better or equal team, despite Flagg pissing down his leg on the last two possessions in their matchup. You guys are acting like Kentucky proved to be on a different level head to head.
Fans pick and choose when H2H results are meaningful and when they're not.
Are we doing prefictions, or are we talking about right now?
If you're going to do predictions, you really need to see who is playing what teams on the road. Some teams will have a harder road schedule.
UK gets Auburn and Florida at home with no return trips, but they get Alabama and UT home and away.
Right now:
Auburn
UT
UK
Florida
Bama
Miss St
aTm
UGA
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
Mizzou
Texas
Arkansas
Vandy
LSU
South Carolina
I don't think any UK fan is acting like UK proved to be on a different level then Duke. Duke could have won the game, but they didn't, UK did.
As of this moment, UK has a better resume and thus deserves to be rated higher then Duke. In my opinion, beating Duke and Gonzaga on neutral courts (even though the Zags game was in Seattle and essentially a road game) outweighs beating Auburn at home. Losing on the road to Clemson is not worse then losing two neutral site games. Now if UK had lost at, let's say BC/ Syracuse/GA Tech, then that would be a more of a check mark against UK.
6-8 after 18 conference games? Must be that Louisville math. Is that because you ran out of fingers to count on?
Sorry, I forgot about you and JC. I MEANT KENTUCKY WILL FINISH 6th to 8th in conference standings.
Well the "experts" picked them to finish 8th, so you are being quite generous.
He adjusted from his earlier list in UK favor. You can call Rocky a lot of things except unbending.
Let the record show that I had Kentucky as a fringe top-10 team before the Duke game. Feel the same way. I think they'll be a 2 or 3 seed in the tournament.
1. UT
2. Auburn
3. ISU
4. Duke
5. Kentucky
6. Marquette
7. Bama
8. Gonzaga
9. Florida
10. Kansas
2. Auburn
3. ISU
4. Duke
5. Kentucky
6. Marquette
7. Bama
8. Gonzaga
9. Florida
10. Kansas
5 seems about right for us right now. Have to just figure Duke will get the benefit of the doubt if it’s close.
Then Duke fans wonder why the majority of fans from other teams think there is a built in bias toward Duke.
Only Duke could lose to UK, lose to KU, squeak by a depleted UL team, and then jump past a team (UK) that beat them and Gonzaga.
Unbelievable.
Get ready to hear all year long how "underrated" the ACC is, and that by virtue of winning that trash conference, Duke deserves a one seed.
The AP slurps the milk straight from Cooper Flagg's teat.
Computer metrics love Duke over UK.
ESPN's BPI has them over every SEC, over every team except 5-3 Houston.
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Pollsters are ******ed.
Kentucky is 2-0 against their top ten neutral site opponents.
Duke is 0-2.
INCLUDING A HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUP IN THERE.
If you put the clemson game and the auburn game, both on neutral courts then kentucky wins and duke loses. In no way, should a home game Be weighted the same as a road game against a top twenty team in both cases.
If you're trying to justify this ranking, then you're just as unintelligent as the general pollster is.
You don't KNOW who would win either of those games on a neutral court. Fact is, if they were played 5 times, I would venture to say somebody wins 3-2. Speaking in absolutes in college basketball, especially concerning two good teams is "unintelligent". There is not a single matchup between two good teams that you can say absolutely for sure who will win on a given night. If you think you can, you should make up a 10 game parlay and bet the house on it. You don't like easy money? You wanted to come on here and call somebody a clown. Your opinion was proven wrong and you seem extremely torqued about it. Lighten up. It won't matter in March who was ranked 4th and who was ranked 5th on Dec. 9th.
The better question to ask is at this moment, between UK and Duke, who deserves to be ranked higher?
Forget about what the polls have said, or predicting what you think the polls will say, do you think UK should be ranked ahead of Duke at this point?
You don’t know jack shit.
You are making an assumption based on your dislike.
If Scheyer runs a play instead of a clear out for Flagg Duke beats UK.
See how easy it is.
Well then, good thing Jon Scheyer is Duke's coach...hope he continues as Duke's coach for decades to come.
And as for dislike, I was pulling for Duke to thrash UL. I hate UL with the fire of a thousand burning suns, Duke doesn't even register on my scale of hatred in comparison.
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Kenpom has Indiana 44 and Louisville 57, Louisville beat them by 30. Kenpom in December is useless.
Both fanbases can make a case for which should be higher. Ky beat Duke, who had two key contributors not available at the end of the game, same as Ky vs the Zags but they still lost to an unranked team. Duke beat #2 Auburn, who had beaten Houston, Iowa St, UNC, and Memphis. I do know who KenPom, Barttorvik, the AP voters, the NET, and Vegas thinks is the better team, but what do they know? If Duke and Ky played a 7 game series right now, I think it goes 7 games.
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