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But did anyone play a tougher OOC slate than theirs? They arguably played four final four contenders. And their young talent is likely to improve throughout the year, even vs weak competition.

Look at Auburn. They play in one of the highest rated leagues and they've faced one top 20 team all year.
LOl at your dumbass comparing auburns schedule to Gonzaga’s. They aren’t close
 
I don't think I've actually watched Arizona outrun than a few minutes against UT so I'll refrain from commenting on them. Of the best teams imo all have some major questions.

Gonzaga- Nembhard is just ok. No real stars at the guard spots.

Duke- No point guard, inconsistent guard play.

Kentucky- Mediocre in the half court, don't let them run and they aren't as scary.

Auburn- Average guards. Nobody scares you on offense other than Smith.

Purdue- Terrible defense. Two of their three best players being slow centers hurt.



Kenpom has them 240th at non con SOS if I'm reading it right.
Non conference SOS is also irrelevant if your conference schedule sucks
 
I don't think I've actually watched Arizona outrun than a few minutes against UT so I'll refrain from commenting on them. Of the best teams imo all have some major questions.

Gonzaga- Nembhard is just ok. No real stars at the guard spots.

Duke- No point guard, inconsistent guard play.

Kentucky- Mediocre in the half court, don't let them run and they aren't as scary.

Auburn- Average guards. Nobody scares you on offense other than Smith.

Purdue- Terrible defense. Two of their three best players being slow centers hurt.



Kenpom has them 240th at non con SOS if I'm reading it right.

That just means they played a bunch of garbage teams too. For this purpose, all anyone cares about is the teams on their level. We know any contender is going to beat a bad/mediocre team, whether they're 150 in the nation or 300.
 
LOl at your dumbass comparing auburns schedule to Gonzaga’s. They aren’t close

LOL @ your poor reading comprehension.

You don't prove anything by eeking by St Louis. You prove your legitimacy by beating real teams. Gonzaga's played at least 3-4 high level teams. Auburn's played one and they were short-handed.
 
He ain't 49% on 18 footers, I guarantee that. 49% for a power forward is nothing to brag about anyway. When Toppin is on his game he's way more valuable than Brooks.
Your opinion over Cal's lol I love me some Toppin, but he can't hit the 2's like Brooks against a zone.
 
LOL @ your poor reading comprehension.

You don't prove anything by eeking by St Louis. You prove your legitimacy by beating real teams. Gonzaga's played at least 3-4 high level teams. Auburn's played one and they were short-handed.
Huh? Only one? Gonzaga lost to a team in their home state you aren’t saying is a good win for auburn idiot and Auburn had road and home vidtories over them. Nice contradiction. Alabama and Arkansas are just as good as any of the teams that Gonzaga has played this year. Ucla and Texas were overrated
 
Huh? Only one? Gonzaga lost to a team in their home state you aren’t saying is a good win for auburn idiot and Auburn had road and home vidtories over them. Nice contradiction. Alabama and Arkansas are just as good as any of the teams that Gonzaga has played this year. Ucla and Texas were overrated
I like how you leave out that Auburn also lost to two teams that are at Alabama's level.

Sure, homer. Every SEC team's underrated and everyone else is overrated.

So Bama and Arkansas are as good as Duke, Texas Tech and UCLA? Interesting. Although I guess Arky did only lose to Hofstra by 8 and Oklahoma by 22. And Bama's only lost to about 5 shit teams and only been blown out a handful of times.

If anything, the opposite's true. Neither Alabama nor Arkansas has any business being ranked.

Gonzaga's 3-1 vs the Kenpom top 15 and they dominated in all three of those wins. They've proven more than Auburn even with a shitty conference schedule.
 
I like how you leave out that Auburn also lost to two teams that are at Alabama's level.

Sure, homer. Every SEC team's underrated and everyone else is overrated.

So Bama and Arkansas are as good as Duke, Texas Tech and UCLA? Interesting. Although I guess Arky did only lose to Hofstra by 8 and Oklahoma by 22. And Bama's only lost to about 5 shit teams and only been blown out a handful of times.

If anything, the opposite's true. Neither Alabama nor Arkansas has any business being ranked.

Gonzaga's 3-1 vs the Kenpom top 15 and they dominated in all three of those wins. They've proven more than Auburn even with a shitty conference schedule.
Ucla is not good. Nor is Texas.
 
That just means they played a bunch of garbage teams too. For this purpose, all anyone cares about is the teams on their level. We know any contender is going to beat a bad/mediocre team, whether they're 150 in the nation or 300.

That's my point. They only played 5/13 games against P5 competition. That's very disappointing considering we know that thy conference schedule is weak (though it's better this year than most years).
 
Both are better than Alabama or Arkansas by pretty much any measure. Thanks for playing.
No they aren’t. Just because Texas beat your shit Kansas squad doesn’t mean much. The SEC already exposed you in the big 12/sec challenge. When we are more successful in the dance I will laugh at you again.
 
That's my point. They only played 5/13 games against P5 competition. That's very disappointing considering we know that thy conference schedule is weak (though it's better this year than most years).

But when determining how good they are, we only focus on the games vs quality teams, right? They've still played more top notch teams than some of the other highly rated teams. And dominated most of them.

Would it really matter if they'd added a couple random lower-tier P5 teams rather than midmajors? Beating either proves nothing.

Losing to Alabama was a surprise, but basically every team has a headscratching loss.
 
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Jay Wright is weird. He's a phenomenal coach who won 2 titles in 3 years (last one is one of the best teams this century) yet doesn't have a ton of tournament success otherwise.



Exactly where I am with them. Though I'm not as high on them this year as I was last year since Suggs is in the nba.
Suggs, Kispert, and Ayayi were all big losses for them. Getting Timme back and adding Holmgren was huge, but they aren't on par with last year's team, imo.
 
No they aren’t. Just because Texas beat your shit Kansas squad doesn’t mean much. The SEC already exposed you in the big 12/sec challenge. When we are more successful in the dance I will laugh at you again.

By your stupid logic, the Big 12 already exposed Arkansas when Oklahoma pounded them by 20+. And Alabama's been exposed by half the midmajors in the country.

Mediocre teams. But tell us again about how they're equal to Duke, Tech, UCLA and Texas. 😂

I think you've been more successful in the tournament exactly one time in history. And it was after KU lost one of the best bigs in the country and their best guard. Cool story, bro. You should definitely talk about it daily for the rest of your life.
 
By your stupid logic, the Big 12 already exposed Arkansas when Oklahoma pounded them by 20+. And Alabama's been exposed by half the midmajors in the country.

Mediocre teams. But tell us again about how they're equal to Duke, Tech, UCLA and Texas. 😂

I think you've been more successful in the tournament exactly one time in history. And it was after KU lost one of the best bigs in the country and their best guard. Cool story, bro. You should definitely talk about it daily for the rest of your life.
Ucla nor Texas will see the second weekend. Texas will lose in first round. Duke is solid and tech seems good though.
 
Ucla nor Texas will see the second weekend. Texas will lose in first round. Duke is solid and tech seems good though.
Maybe not. What's your point? You think Alabama and Arkansas will be in the Sweet 16? 🤣

Btw, you understand that the same UCLA team was in the final four last year when they were less experienced, right? And damn close to beating Gonzaga?
 
Maybe not. What's your point? You think Alabama and Arkansas will be in the Sweet 16? 🤣
Arkansas I can see it for sure. Seem to of gotten over their brief Slump. Alabama it just depends on which Alabama shows up. Obviously can beat anyone. Alabama has wins over Gonzaga, Baylor, houston, Tennessee,
 
Arkansas I can see it for sure. Seem to of gotten over their brief Slump. Alabama it just depends on which Alabama shows up. Obviously can beat anyone. Alabama has wins over Gonzaga, Baylor, houston, Tennessee,
Yeah...inferior teams win sometimes. But sucking more often than being good isn't usually a great formula for a tourney run.
 
Arkansas I can see it for sure. Seem to of gotten over their brief Slump. Alabama it just depends on which Alabama shows up. Obviously can beat anyone. Alabama has wins over Gonzaga, Baylor, houston, Tennessee,
Yeah, to be fair, I would put UCLA with Hogs and Bama in their tier..
 
The Big 10
About damn time. Not sure how common it’s been for other conferences to place nearly half the league (ILL, IND, MICH, MSU, OSU, WISC) in the National Title game in the last 20 years … but I damn sure know it’s unique to the Big Ten to have all of them lose! RollLaugh:confused:

P.S. Looking back, some of those matchups were just brutal. 2005 Illinois and 2007 OSU (who ran into that stacked ‘05 UNC and Joakim Noah’s Florida team, respectively) definitely would have won it all in several other seasons in that timeframe.
 
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Not sure who will win - I would probably put money on Gonzaga today - but I think we can all agree that whoever wins this year will be one of the weakest champs in the last decade
 
Not sure who will win - I would probably put money on Gonzaga today - but I think we can all agree that whoever wins this year will be one of the weakest champs in the last decade
Not UK or Arizona, so just remember that when it's time to fill out the brackets!
 
Not sure who will win - I would probably put money on Gonzaga today - but I think we can all agree that whoever wins this year will be one of the weakest champs in the last decade
This auburn team is better the auburn team uva should have lost to in 2019. Auburn wouldn’t be a weaker champ than that uva team.
 
Nah. That’s just who your team was. You guys were clutch but not some historic great team

I didn't say we were some historic great team. And neither will this year's champ.

35-3 in a league with 3 1-seeds is much better than this Auburn team though. Two of those 3 losses were to the #1 overall seed.
 
Every team that wins it all isn't a historic great team. 2009 UNC, 2012 UK, 2015 Duke were great teams and I'm sure I'm missing a few more.
I agree. Uva wasn’t one of those teams though. 2015 actually probably had 3 historically good teams.
 
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