Vote: Player A vs Player B

[hailtoyourvictor]

Player A:
Team finished 12-21, Kenpom #84
Usage: 26.3
12.5 ppg
3.1 apg
1.8 rpg
1.7 spg
2.2 topg
34.7% 3pt %
40.5 FG %
102.9 offensive rating
104.1 defensive rating


Player B
Team finished 23-5, Kenpom #3
Usage: 16.2
9.5 ppg
3.1 apg
3.1 rpg
1.1 spg
1.1 topg
39.6% 3pt%
42.6% FG%
118.3 ortg
99.0 drtg

 

[boilerzz]

I think someone didn't get enough praise at home when he was growing up.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

I think someone didn't get enough praise at home when he was growing up.

You joined a conversation you aren’t a part of just to take a personal dig at me?

 

[FaithPlusOne]

You joined a conversation you aren’t a part of just to take a personal dig at me?

 

[JimboBBN]

I'll take B

 

[Original_Irish]

Player B. 26% usage is too high to only avg 12.5points and 3.1 assists

 

[boilerzz]

You joined a conversation you aren’t a part of just to take a personal dig at me?

Is this like the 3rd time in a couple of weeks you took a silly argument within the B1G thread outside it looking for validation? Is it really that important to you?

 

[Jaycg15]

I always love Hail making polls. He intentionally biases them and then expects fair conclusions to be drawn.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Is this like the 3rd time in a couple of weeks you took a silly argument within the B1G thread outside it looking for validation? Is it really that important to you?

Its a way to take an disagreement and see what some unbiased posters have to say about it. It’s a weird thing to complain about ok a dying forum that has OT stuff on half the front page. If it doesn’t interest you, don’t participate.

 

[VulvHa]

Is this like the 3rd time in a couple of weeks you took a silly argument within the B1G thread outside it looking for validation? Is it really that important to you?

Just go with the flow. Now they get go at it in two different threads about the same topic.

 

[Jaycg15]

Just go with the flow. Now they get go at it in two different threads about the same topic.

Nah, he goes running to the polls when I fvck with him too much. It's what he does when he can't best me alone. I already showed my hand, and he still did it.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Nah, he goes running to the polls when I fvck with him too much. It's what he does when he can't best me alone. I already showed my hand, and he still did it.

The Loyola vs Illinois poll went well for you.

 

[Jaycg15]

The Loyola vs Illinois poll went well for you.

You thought I cared about that argument and this argument which is cute. Baited my hook and you swallowed.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

You thought I cared about that argument and this argument which is cute. Baited my hook and you swallowed.

Sure go with that

 

[Jaycg15]

Sure go with that

1. Loyola had 2 better tournament runs. No one debated that. That's what the poll said.
2. Before you posted this thread, I told you I was trolling you, and you still posted this thread because you got knotted up.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

1. Loyola had 2 better tournament runs. No one debated that. That's what the poll said.
2. Before you posted this thread, I told you I was trolling you, and you still posted this thread because you got knotted up.

1. We were debating who had the better past decade. That’s what the poll asked.

2. I posted this like 40 minutes before you admitted you were trolling.

 

[Jaycg15]

1. We were debating who had the better past decade. That’s what the poll asked.

2. I posted this like 40 minutes before you admitted you were trolling.

Well I saw it after that. Sue me.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Well I saw it after that. Sue me.

If 12.5 - 9.5 is 4 then anything is possible

 

[Jaycg15]

If 12.5 - 9.5 is 4 then anything is possible

Keep sweet talking me, and it will be 6 and ready.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Is this like the 3rd time in a couple of weeks you took a silly argument within the B1G thread outside it looking for validation? Is it really that important to you?

LOL is that a serious question? We're talking about Hail here.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

LOL is that a serious question? We're talking about Hail here.

Thank you for participating

 

[cdbearde]

 

[Villian07]

Tell us who the players are already. Pretty obv player b had better stats on a better team which i assume is michigan. Playing on a good team can benefit you though, if ur on a bad team and the focal point of every defensive gameplan u come across.

 

[WojoRising]

Can we have a name, you know, for B1G analytics purposes

 

[boilerzz]

Tell us who the players are already. Pretty obv player b had better stats on a better team which i assume is michigan. Playing on a good team can benefit you though, if ur on a bad team and the focal point of every defensive gameplan u come across.

Trent Frazier at Illinois as a freshman and Eli Brooks at Michigan as a senior.

 

[FaithPlusOne]

Trent Frazier at Illinois as a freshman and Eli Brooks at Michigan as a senior.

That was going to be my question. I think that matters in that the soph leap is often (but not always) bigger than a junior to senior. Other factors are obviously how the player was used in their respective roles and whether the other team had to put them on the front page is the scouting report (talent around them).

 

[Jaycg15]

That was going to be my question. I think that matters in that the soph leap is often (but not always) bigger than a junior to senior. Other factors are obviously how the player was used in their respective roles and whether the other team had to put them on the front page is the scouting report (talent around them).

That's essentially the argument that was had. Frazier was forced to be the first option while Brooks was the 4th or 5th.

 

[Villian07]

Trent Frazier at Illinois as a freshman and Eli Brooks at Michigan as a senior.

Lmao wtf shoulda stayed out of it. Not even the same year and diff points in their careers.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Lmao wtf shoulda stayed out of it. Not even the same year and diff points in their careers.

People were saying that Frazier’s freshman year was better than Brooks’ senior year. I said they were even, just different. Brooks slightly less counting stats but more efficient. Frazier not counting stats but less efficient. Flip a coin.

Their senior seasons were also a coin flip but the conversation was specifically about Illinois fans thinking Frazier’s freshman year was better.

 

[Villian07]

U big 10 fellas get riled up about some weird ass shit.

 

[Villian07]

No offense

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

No offense

Your home board died and ACC threads flop. I definitely don’t take offense to what you consider good forum banter.

 

[VulvHa]

U big 10 fellas get riled up about some weird ass shit.

To be fair most of us have years and years of sht talk that has accumulated.

 

[Villian07]

Your home board died and ACC threads flop. I definitely don’t take offense to what you consider good forum banter.

Probably bc we dont argue about players stats from different years, in diff points in their career like its even remotely relevant. Freshman frazier from 3 years ago vs brooks last year lol why the eff would u not just use fraziers numbers from last year, he played as well no?

 

[Villian07]

Senoir david padgent had a better offensive post game than hunter dickerson will this year. Take that.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Probably bc we dont argue about players stats from different years, in diff points in their career like its even remotely relevant. Freshman frazier from 3 years ago vs brooks last year lol why the eff would u not just use fraziers numbers from last year, he played as well no?

The conversation was about how often freshmen guards come into the league and have been abetter than a senior Eli Brooks was. Frazier‘s freshman year was cited. That is why.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Senoir david padgent had a better offensive post fame than hunter dickerson will this year. Take that.

The conversation was specifically about the odds of a freshman guard coming in and being better than Eli Brooks was last year. So we were looking at freshman seasons from PGs in the past compared to Brooks to see how common it is.

 

[Villian07]

Touche’ carry on ill see myself out on this one

 

[JimboBBN]

Probably bc we dont argue about players stats from different years, in diff points in their career like its even remotely relevant. Freshman frazier from 3 years ago vs brooks last year lol why the eff would u not just use fraziers numbers from last year, he played as well no?

Its a shame your board went downhill because of one poster. He single handily made your board a ghost town.

 

[all4theillini]

The conversation was specifically about the odds of a freshman guard coming in and being better than Eli Brooks was last year. So we were looking at freshman seasons from PGs in the past compared to Brooks to see how common it is.

Thank you, Nostradumbass.