Self: Ruling 100% unfair
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I'll provide proof when you provide proof that Self facilitated payment to players.
See how that works?
He is caught on tape asking for help from Adidas to get players. Nothing to see here. Move on. Of course you have to have some common sense to make the connection.
Here is what Pat Forde said Bill Self should have said about the NCAA decision to suspend Desousa:
Here is what Bill Self should have said, if he had a lot less gall and a lot more Self-awareness: “I apologize to Silvio De Sousa for putting him in this predicament. I’m sorry that T.J. Gassnola (3), a known bag man and now convicted felon, who I was in contact with during this recruitment and others, paid the money that helped bring Silvio to Kansas. We have said that Silvio didn’t know what was transpiring, but I should have. Everyone in college basketball was aware of T.J.’s reputation and how he operated. I acknowledge that it’s very hard to believe that someone with my experience and connections had no idea that he was working a deal to abruptly pull Silvio away from Maryland and send him to Kansas. Instead of blaming the NCAA for its ruling, I should blame myself for using T.J. Gassnola as an unofficial recruiter.”
And you have to lack common sense or latch on to some vast expanse of naivety to believe that with all of the money floating around that these recruits just pass it all up for the awesome chance to play for your school.
I’ve got some things to sell you if that’s the case.
And this is what Pat Forde said Bill Self should have said:
Here is what Bill Self should have said, if he had a lot less gall and a lot more Self-awareness: “I apologize to Silvio De Sousa for putting him in this predicament. I’m sorry that T.J. Gassnola (3), a known bag man and now convicted felon, who I was in contact with during this recruitment and others, paid the money that helped bring Silvio to Kansas. We have said that Silvio didn’t know what was transpiring, but I should have. Everyone in college basketball was aware of T.J.’s reputation and how he operated. I acknowledge that it’s very hard to believe that someone with my experience and connections had no idea that he was working a deal to abruptly pull Silvio away from Maryland and send him to Kansas. Instead of blaming the NCAA for its ruling, I should blame myself for using T.J. Gassnola as an unofficial recruiter.”
And here is what Pat Forde said your Atkletic Director should have said after the NCAA ruling:
Here is what Kansas athletic director Jeff Long (4) should have said, instead of joining Self in railing against the NCAA: “Silvio De Sousa’s ineligibility rests with us, not the NCAA. As was revealed in federal court, our head coach said in a text message to T.J. Gassnola, who was working recruiting angles as an Adidas bag man, ‘I’m happy with Adidas. Just got to get a couple real guys.’ Well, T.J. got us a guy, and he did it with a cash payment. We let a fox in the hen house, then acted surprised when he ate a chicken. That’s on us, and nobody else.”
And you have to be an idiot to not recognize the issues at Kansas. Every year you have some athlete in trouble with the NCAA. Remember Billy Preston and there have been several others. Just a coincidence I guess. You have a coach dealing with a convicted felon to get players. Read what Pat Forde said about your coach and Desousa:
Here is what Bill Self should have said, if he had a lot less gall and a lot more Self-awareness: “I apologize to Silvio De Sousa for putting him in this predicament. I’m sorry that T.J. Gassnola (3), a known bag man and now convicted felon, who I was in contact with during this recruitment and others, paid the money that helped bring Silvio to Kansas. We have said that Silvio didn’t know what was transpiring, but I should have. Everyone in college basketball was aware of T.J.’s reputation and how he operated. I acknowledge that it’s very hard to believe that someone with my experience and connections had no idea that he was working a deal to abruptly pull Silvio away from Maryland and send him to Kansas. Instead of blaming the NCAA for its ruling, I should blame myself for using T.J. Gassnola as an unofficial recruiter.”
And how does that known Bag man and now convicted felon feel about $teering those recruits to Cal?
“I told Antonio, `You need to go to a place where you’re comfortable, with people I know, because I can’t call [North Carolina coach] Roy Williams, but I can call Cal,’ “ Gassnola says. Calipari and Kellogg did not respond to interview requests.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...ng-amateurs/46zvfKp1awQlxvVG8EWyTI/story.html
Cal is totally on the up and up, nothing to see here.
Well, all of this may not show who is cheating but it all definitely shows that one guy, Roy Williams, is above the fray. No surprise here but it has to be a bitter revelation for some, which we will see here soon.
He’s definitely lacking in the common sense dept.
He IS pretty good at this though:
Any school who self reports, or helps with the investigation deserves whatever punishment comes their way! It sucks that it's like this, but it is the reality of the situation. The full of thumb here is: if you do all the right things during these types of investigations....you're screwed. However, if you deny and refuse to cooperate, if all eventually goes away.
As someone who lives college sports, it sucks that it's like this, but there's countless examples of it going this way.
Also, its hilarious seeing UK and Duke fans acting like their above this type of stuff!
As someone who lives college sports, it sucks that it's like this, but there's countless examples of it going this way.
Also, its hilarious seeing UK and Duke fans acting like their above this type of stuff!
It is hilarious. It'll be more hilarious when their fantasies crumble in the near future.
The best thing that can happen for the game is for everyone to get busted hard. If some delusional fans cry rivers in the process...all the better.
KU might go down as the dirtest program in Basketball History only SMU football can match their filth.
The scheme began in October 2016 with a meeting at the Oread Hotel in Lawrence, Kansas, during a basketball recruiting event called Late Night in the Phog. Gassnola, there on behalf of Adidas, invited Preston’s mother to his room to discuss money, he testified.
https://www.oregonlive.com/business...ed-a-black-market-for-top-teenage-talent.html
The scheme began in October 2016 with a meeting at the Oread Hotel in Lawrence, Kansas, during a basketball recruiting event called Late Night in the Phog. Gassnola, there on behalf of Adidas, invited Preston’s mother to his room to discuss money, he testified.
https://www.oregonlive.com/business...ed-a-black-market-for-top-teenage-talent.html
Sit back and watch. Kansas is going down. Games played last year in which Desousa played will be vacated.
Oh no. NO! Anything but this!!!
They probably have the technology to extract memories, too. Sweet Jesus. This is awful. Dark, dark days are ahead. I’m going home. How can I get any work done at a time like this?
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Feel sorta bad for the kid. But glad to see cheating programs like kansas suffer by having their players ruled ineligible.
Even if what you are insinuating is true .... which it isn’t because he’d of out right said he steered guys to Cal.... but doesn’t matter because cal didn’t get caught, Self and KU did
