Then the AP and coaches poll needs to be eliminated entirely. Agree with your point though.
Selection Sunday thread
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Feels good to be arguing about seeding again though, just wish we hadn't been given the shaft. Not only that, but we play a good Creighton team first round (if we get past them) then one of the top teams in the country. That is my biggest gripe.
The issue with the ap poll is, if you don't lose, you just move up regardlesss of who it is you're beating.
I think we can all agree the ACC is way down, that league hurt Louisville and NC for sure.
Clemson beat duke and UK, but should that give them a 5 and UL an 8, who beat them twice? No, not in my opinion.
I wouldn't have said shit if we received a 6 seed.
edit---I would've bitched a little, but god damn. An 8 seed? Still pissed about it.
I been posting here for a while now and and I don't remember this much drama about seeding and teams in/out.
I'll blame it on the SEC for being damn good and it's not a bad thing but the committee had to see this coming, I just don't think they were prepared for all of this.
As for teams in and out, I'm not going to apologize that UNC is in, had we not made it I would of been good with that but let's say if this was another blueblood, personally I wouldn't been bothered.
I can imagine some more changes are coming when it comes to selecting teams, what will they be, I don't have a clue.
I'll blame it on the SEC for being damn good and it's not a bad thing but the committee had to see this coming, I just don't think they were prepared for all of this.
As for teams in and out, I'm not going to apologize that UNC is in, had we not made it I would of been good with that but let's say if this was another blueblood, personally I wouldn't been bothered.
I can imagine some more changes are coming when it comes to selecting teams, what will they be, I don't have a clue.
Being way down is to kind, the conference sucked big time because lack of quality coaching.
Roy, k, Boeheim, Bennett, Larranaga and now Hamilton all retired, that's major quality right there.
I'm saying the committee can use multiple ways to put teams wherever they want. For example Auburn had the amazing resume, Duke had the big margins and predictive analytics. You can use the math you want to justify a seed. Blue bloods / "hot" programs tend to get evaluated by the best math available. Others don't always get that. Florida would never be a 3 seed with 10+ losses I promise you that.
Look at last year. (21-11) Bama had less Q1 wins, lost 2/3 to (24-11) Florida and they were 3 seeds higher. Bama was a 4 we were a 7 lmao. Bama was a hot program all year though.
Shoot UK's resume last year wasn't 4 seeds better than us either IMO. Brand and media love definitely play a small part in seedings.
You think Florida makes the dance with UNC's resume?! C'mon now.
I know it's just the play in games but Tuesday and Wednesday night each have a pretty good game. But yeah I'm ready to get this thing started.
I'm referring to the order of the 1 seeds. If UK had our resume, there would have absolutely been more discussion about where they fit in the order of 1 seeds (instead of just being dubbed the 4th one seed).
You don't believe that? Or do you think Florida has no valid argument vs teams like Houston and Duke?
Smart move is smart. Look at the SEC, but focus on UK. They are the figurehead of menace in the SEC.
I'm amazed at how fast it happened too, but if each individual school can get their NIL figured out, the conference can get back on track.
Any improvement at all has to happen at this point, seasons like this one can't continue to be a thing.
The UNC case is different, even Tarheel fans are saying they could understand it if they didn't get in, some of them are pretty shocked. But again, their NET rating was higher than the others that didn’t get in. There is easily an argument that can be made, but, their name very qell could be what put them over the top.
I'm not sure what you're getting at with Florida, Alabama and UK last year, I don't recall anyone having an issue with the seeding that those 3 teams got.
UK had a very similar resume to what they have this year. That win @ Tennessee last game of the season and the 30 point blowout of Alabama certainly helped. Plus UK won @ Auburn, only team to do that.
If you want, we can go back and look at resumes, but that seems kind of silly.
But seriously, you don't think duke should he a 1 seed?
Uh, I guess, but this is a weak hill to die on. Florida got a 1 seed and a decent draw, I don't get the issue.
I have never seen someone complain about getting a 1 seed.
I took a silent vote with the others and we think you should leave, this is for fans of schools that made the tournament.
We appreciate your understanding here.
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I don't watch that shit. There's more than enough bball starting Thursday the last thing I need to be doing is burning myself out with these nonsense play in games.
No one is complaining. I said that having a brand like UK helps with good seeding. I was just using Florida's mediocre basketball brand (should get a bit better) as an example.
You don't recall but every Florida fan that watches basketball had an issue with our 7 seed last year (relative to Bama and UK at least).
There has been several years where UK got shafted, the name only takes you so far, sometimes, it can go the other way.
Calipari pissed a lot of people off in his days here and at his prior stops. Just ask the teapot, if he was on the committee, Calipari would never sniff the tournament.
Sorry man, I don't recall that, but keep in mind, most fans think their team got a raw deal.
Florida beat Bama twice in MARCH by 14 and 18 points and was still was given a 7 seed vs Bama's 4. Plus Florida gave Auburn their worst loss of the year no question.
SEC were ACC merchants in the non conference, dominating that weak ass and overrated conference and boosting their NET and Analytic profiles.
SEC's most impressive accomplishment turned out to be they were able to go 10-9 versus the B1G. A fluke.
14/16
8/18
Criminal.
SEC's most impressive accomplishment turned out to be they were able to go 10-9 versus the B1G. A fluke.
14/16
8/18
Criminal.
It's fine lol. Why would you recall it? Not many people were discussing Florida's resume last year lmao. Our speck of bball brand we had with Donovan was completely burned away in the Mike White fire.
I understand that. I'm just saying if they won their conference tournament, there would have been no reason to drop them a seed line. They lost in the C-USA quarterfinals; they showed their vulnerability without Martin. Duke won the ACCT and didn't show vulnerability without Flagg. No reason to drop Duke off the 1 line, even if it was a season-ending injury.
Or that $104K bonus their AD gets for them making NCAAT.
Zero chance IU deserved to be in, but...if you're putting Carolina in...with one Quad 1 win, amd a Q3 loss....How do not include IU? 4 Q1 wins. And no Q3/4 losses. Not sure they had a Q2 loss.
West Virginia not getting in before Xavier, UNC or TX is criminal.
Purdue a 4...while Michigan is a 5? Mich beat PU 2X. Won BTT..Had 12 Q1 wins..PU 7. And they are seeded below PU?
Crazy
I predict the SEC has the most tournament losses this year as a conference, losers.
I will be here to introduce objective thought and observations to the fight I have no dog in.
Hope this helps
I read that UNC’s AD is on the selection committee, and he gets a $104k bonus if UNC makes the tourney? Is this true?
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