Romeo Langford's ridiculously poor 3 pt shooting percentage is explained.

[IUfanBorden]

he was 35% career 3 point shooter in H.S.
did you think that was going to go up in college

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/ro...S-8KA2nzwbTA/gendersport/basketball-stats.htm

1. You should do better research. MaxPreps is an awful source. Langford shot 39% from three as a frosh.....38% as a sophomore.....THEN-----31% as a Junior. This was due to an injury to his pinky/wrist....Then shot 36% as a senior. Thumb injury. So the 35% is a bit flawed. Or it could, I guess, the defense got better in HS?Laughing

Here: https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...on-bailey-season-season-comparison/492449002/

Where did I say I thought his percentage would go up? I thought he would shoot close to what he did in HS. Never said he shoot better. No clue where you got that from.

 

[mebeblue2]

1. You should do better research. MaxPreps is an awful source. Langford shot 39% from three as a frosh.....38% as a sophomore.....THEN-----31% as a Junior. This was due to an injury to his pinky/wrist....Then shot 36% as a senior. Thumb injury. So the 35% is a bit flawed. Or it could, I guess, the defense got better in HS?Laughing

Here: https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...on-bailey-season-season-comparison/492449002/

Where did I say I thought his percentage would go up? I thought he would shoot close to what he did in HS. Never said he shoot better. No clue where you got that from.

hometown newspapers tend to skew stats
i will go with a source that has no dog in the fight

why would you think that a very average shooter stats would be about the same against better competition?
look i get that he is some type of hero of yours because he is from your hometown
but take those glasses off and look at the truth
he can score, he is not a good shooter, as you stated he lacks motor which will hurt him in the NBA

me and a friend watched Wiggins about 30 times in H.S.
we both agreed that unless he gets a motor then he will never reach his potential

 

[IUfanBorden]

not dismissing anything
anyone with an once of basketball knowledge knew that his 35% would probably go down in college due to better athletes and better 3 point defense

those open looks in H.S. are no longer open

Then why didn't his ability to get to rim go down? Better ahtlete's and better post defenders; and bigger? I understand he's better at getting to the rim, scoring, etc, etc...But he didn't have issues adapting there. I think the defense played a role. But a very small role. Especially when I saw this kid bricking wide open three after wide open three. Not just missing----but missing badly.

And as I told you, and showed you, that 35% in HS is a flawed stat. He shot 39% as a freshman in HS.....38% as a sophomore. Then suffered an injury as a junior, and only shot 31% from three as a Junior. Look at his FT%...Close to 80% as a frosh and a soph----then 55% as a junior. He recovered some as a senior, but another injury impacted his shooting. He shot 36% as a senior. MOF, it got to a point s a senior, where he didn't shoot jumpers, or dunk in practice, due to his injuries.

I'm not saying college defense doesn't impact a players ability to do what he did in HS---It absolutely does. Totally different game. I know this first hand. BUT-----It played a much lesser role than you think. Especially when talking about a kid of his ability, size(6'6").

 

[IUfanBorden]

hometown newspapers tend to skew stats
i will go with a source that has no dog in the fight

why would you think that a very average shooter stats would be about the same against better competition?
look i get that he is some type of hero of yours because he is from your hometown
but take those glasses off and look at the truth
he can score, he is not a good shooter, as you stated he lacks motor which will hurt him in the NBA

me and a friend watched Wiggins about 30 times in H.S.
we both agreed that unless he gets a motor then he will never reach his potential

Hometown newspaper? Its the Indy Star. A newspaper some 2 hours from New Albany. Its a comparison of year by year stats of him and Damon Bailey. Its a ton more accurate than MaxPreps; which deosn't include all games; or his senior year.

Not a hero. He's a 18 year old kid. Not my hometown. I grew up in Borden, Indiana; about 30 miles from New Albany---Hence my name, "IUfan----BORDEN".

Maybe its you that needs to take off the glasses. If the kid had went to UK, you'd be preaching the same shit I am. If you wanna believe the kid isn't a good shooter---that is fine. I know what I saw for four years. I know what I saw before the kid suffered two hand injuries. His shot was impacted a TON more by a TORN ligament, than it was by college defense's.

We can this thread at the top. I will say if his surgery is a success----he'll shoot no wrse than 35% from three at the next level.

 

[IUfanBorden]

, he is not a good shooter,

me and a friend watched Wiggins about 30 times in H.S.
we both agreed that unless he gets a motor then he will never reach his potential

Since when is shooting 35% not considered being a good shooter?

Afree 100% with Romeo and his motor. That has to change.

 

[mebeblue2]

Then why didn't his ability to get to rim go down? Better ahtlete's and better post defenders; and bigger? I understand he's better at getting to the rim, scoring, etc, etc...But he didn't have issues adapting there. I think the defense played a role. But a very small role. Especially when I saw this kid bricking wide open three after wide open three. Not just missing----but missing badly.

And as I told you, and showed you, that 35% in HS is a flawed stat. He shot 39% as a freshman in HS.....38% as a sophomore. Then suffered an injury as a junior, and only shot 31% from three as a Junior. Look at his FT%...Close to 80% as a frosh and a soph----then 55% as a junior. He recovered some as a senior, but another injury impacted his shooting. He shot 36% as a senior. MOF, it got to a point s a senior, where he didn't shoot jumpers, or dunk in practice, due to his injuries.

I'm not saying college defense doesn't impact a players ability to do what he did in HS---It absolutely does. Totally different game. I know this first hand. BUT-----It played a much lesser role than you think. Especially when talking about a kid of his ability, size(6'6").

maybe his ability to get to the rim is elite and his 3 point shooting is not
just because you have a skillset to drive the ball and get to the rim has no bearing on you shooting 3's
you do seem to be having trouble figuring out the difference in the two skillsets

as i stated, Briscoe could get to the rim anytime he wanted (he had an elite skillset to do so)
his 3 point shooting was much like Langfords, BAD
neither shot the 3 good enough for opposing teams to worry about them

 

[IUfanBorden]

maybe his ability to get to the rim is elite and his 3 point shooting is not
just because you have a skillset to drive the ball and get to the rim has no bearing on you shooting 3's
you do seem to be having trouble figuring out the difference in the two skillsets

as i stated, Briscoe could get to the rim anytime he wanted (he had an elite skillset to do so)
his 3 point shooting was much like Langfords, BAD
neither shot the 3 good enough for opposing teams to worry about them

No issue at all between the two skill sets. If there is no torn ligament, this discussion does not exists. Never argued Romeo was a great shooter.....Just a good shooter. I think once his hand is repaired, that will show. You are insinuating college defense's was THE reason his shot suffered. I disagree. Sure it played a role. But not to the extent of shooting 27%. He missed a ton of wide open looks. Missed them badly. That's not b/c of defense, or not being able to shoot. That was due to trying to shoot with a torn ligament.

 

[mebeblue2]

No issue at all between the two skill sets. If there is no torn ligament, this discussion does not exists. Never argued Romeo was a great shooter.....Just a good shooter. I think once his hand is repaired, that will show. You are insinuating college defense's was THE reason his shot suffered. I disagree. Sure it played a role. But not to the extent of shooting 27%. He missed a ton of wide open looks. Missed them badly. That's not b/c of defense, or not being able to shoot. That was due to trying to shoot with a torn ligament.

well Briscoe missed a ton of good looks also
wanna know why they were both so open
start at 27% and figure it out
i do think without the ligament damage he may have shot 30% but no higher

he is not a good shooter

 

[IUfanBorden]

hometown newspapers tend to skew stats
i will go with a source that has no dog in the fight

l

Its not a hometown newspaper----Its from the Indianapolis Star. About 2 hours from New Albany. Its an article comparing the stats of Langford and Bailey, year by year. It has nadda to do with "sunshine pumping" a Romeo agenda, of being this or that. A simple article comparing two of the most celebrated HS players in Indiana, of all-time. Indy Star has no dog in this fight either. I'd read if I were you. Stats are 100% more accurate than Maxpreps.

 

[IUfanBorden]

well Briscoe missed a ton of good looks also
wanna know why they were both so open
start at 27% and figure it out
i do think without the ligament damage he may have shot 30% but no higher

he is not a good shooter

Okie doke...Just agree to disagree. Kid shot 39% as a freshman from three....38 as a sophmore....Then after an injury, shot 31%. I guess that's just a coincidence, huh? Shot 80% from FT line his frosh and soph years----then 55% as a junior. Another coincidence. That , or he forgot how to shoot over the summer of his sophomore year----Then suddenly learned again as a senior.
Time will tell. Me? I'm gonna bet on the kid I saw hang 48 on Southport as a sophomore, hitting 8 of 14 three's, vs a D1 guard in Paul Scruggs. Or the countless times I saw this kid hit 6 or 7 three's in a game. As i said---its a shame the kid got hurt.

See for yourself: This vs a very good Southport team, that had two D1 signee's:

 

[mebeblue2]

Okie doke...Just agree to disagree. Kid shot 39% as a freshman from three....38 as a sophmore....Then after an injury, shot 31%. I guess that's just a coincidence, huh? Shot 80% from FT line his frosh and soph years----then 55% as a junior. Another coincidence. That , or he forgot how to shoot over the summer of his sophomore year----Then suddenly learned again as a senior.
Time will tell. Me? I'm gonna bet on the kid I saw hang 48 on Southport as a sophomore, hitting 8 of 14 three's, vs a D1 guard in Paul Scruggs. Or the countless times I saw this kid hit 6 or 7 three's in a game. As i said---its a shame the kid got hurt.

See for yourself: This vs a very good Southport team, that had two D1 signee's:

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well, Briscoe won a three point shooting contest

 

[IUfanBorden]

well, Briscoe won a three point shooting contest

Good for him. Agree to disagree with RL's shooting. IMO, his struggles have been b/c of injuries to his wrist, and thumb. I saw the kid enough to know he can shoot the basketball. And do so versus elite talent. Time will tell.

 

[jace4655555]

Damn, it’ll be interesting to hear if any teams flag him - medically.

A bad back and torn ligament in the shooting wrist is not a great combination at 19. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.

The thumb I don't think they would be worried about too much. Since that's something that should be 100% good yo go after surgery . The back on the other hand could be a major issue. He also missed games in high school because of his back, so this isn't a 1 off type of thing. I guess hoe how much they care will be based off of how bad its really screwed up.

I hope the best for him! But just to make sure his back and wrist is good to go...I think it's best if he would come back lol

 

[jace4655555]

You may be correct. I know he is a very talented player but I thought teams were able to guard and double him better because he did not have as much talent around him. What I liked about him was that he did not try to be a ball hog and played within himself.

No, what hurt him the most is that teams sagged off of him and begged him to shoot the 3. Because when they did guard him out there, he didn't have a single issue with blowing by them consistently. That's what hurt his game the most, not having an outside shot. If they would have had to respect his outside shot, it would have been easier to get to the rim. Up until I believe the middle of January ,he had the highest fg% at the rim....as a guard...and a freshman!

 

[jace4655555]

try telling that to borden

Borden has always said that he wasn't a phenomenal shooter......well before he ever committed to iu.

 

[choptalk]

hometown newspapers tend to skew stats
i will go with a source that has no dog in the fight

l

Its not a hometown newspaper----Its from the Indianapolis Star. About 2 hours from New Albany. Its an article comparing the stats of Langford and Bailey, year by year. It has nadda to do with "sunshine pumping" a Romeo agenda, of being this or that. A simple article comparing two of the most celebrated HS players in Indiana, of all-time. Indy Star has no dog in this fight either. I'd read if I were you. Stats are 100% more accurate than Maxpreps.

It’s really the IU Star. They want iu to be good. It’s been a futile effort lately but they kept trying. Hyped the hell out of Romeo hoping he’d resurrect the program. Failed to mention his lazy play and that he only goes to his right. Then some “back injury” keeping him out of the NIT. He will make the NBA but better play with more heart.
The next savior is coming though so iu will be back.

 

[Toast.]

Put a dude like Ryan Cline on IU, and it opens the floor up a ton for Romeo.

After your pre-season Cline takes, you can hook posts like these to my veins.

 

[kl40504]

Okie doke...Just agree to disagree. Kid shot 39% as a freshman from three....38 as a sophmore....Then after an injury, shot 31%. I guess that's just a coincidence, huh? Shot 80% from FT line his frosh and soph years----then 55% as a junior. Another coincidence. That , or he forgot how to shoot over the summer of his sophomore year----Then suddenly learned again as a senior.
Time will tell. Me? I'm gonna bet on the kid I saw hang 48 on Southport as a sophomore, hitting 8 of 14 three's, vs a D1 guard in Paul Scruggs. Or the countless times I saw this kid hit 6 or 7 three's in a game. As i said---its a shame the kid got hurt.

See for yourself: This vs a very good Southport team, that had two D1 signee's:

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Was he injured all year?

 

[champ1]