***Official SEC Basketball Season Thread***

[kyjeff1]

I think you are failing to take my point. The same principal I made at UK applies to everyone else too. This will affect UK more because of the status y'all once held. NIL will/is turning recruits "into how much you paying players". Legacy means nothing to 95% of them.

I addressed that in my previous post. NIL is most likely going to change at some point. It’s the wild west right now, but even if it stays status quo, UK will still have their fair share of success. At that point, it comes down to coaching and players buying in.

Pope has proven to be a great offensive mind. Even without point guards, he has maintained a top 2 offense, which is crazy to me. He will have success at UK, especially when he has more than 2 weeks to assemble a roster.

But again, look at the ACC and the Big East. Both are basketball conferences and both are really down. That can happen in the SEC too and I trust the UK administration to do whatever needs to be done to get UK where it should be now that the program is no longer being held hostage by an NBA g-league manager.

So let's do this. What are we saying is the standard for "dominating the SEC"? Is it winning the league 3 years in a row? 5 years? 10 years?
If you win 7 out of 10, is that domination?

To me, if you win the league 3 straight years, you are dominating. Are we saying UK is never going to do that?

Cool, the days of anyone winning the SEC 10 years in a row, is over most likely, but the constant crapping on UK, because they have a strong history, is such a bs flex, especially when it wasn't that long ago that UK went to 4 FF's in 5 years, and was within a whisker of 2 more FF's in 2017 and 2019. UK won the league by 3 games in 2020, but y'all act like UK is the new UCLA. That’s just not true.

 

[della]

I addressed that in my previous post. NIL is most likely going to change at some point. It’s the wild west right now, but even if it stays status quo, UK will still have their fair share of success. At that point, it comes down to coaching and players buying in.

Pope has proven to be a great offensive mind. Even without point guards, he has maintained a top 2 offense, which is crazy to me. He will have success at UK, especially when he has more than 2 weeks to assemble a roster.

But again, look at the ACC and the Big East. Both are basketball conferences and both are really down. That can happen in the SEC too and I trust the UK administration to do whatever needs to be done to get UK where it should be now that the program is no longer being held hostage by an NBA g-league manager.

So let's do this. What are we saying is the standard for "dominating the SEC"? Is it winning the league 3 years in a row? 5 years? 10 years?
If you win 7 out of 10, is that domination?

To me, if you win the league 3 straight years, you are dominating. Are we saying UK is never going to do that?

Cool, the days of anyone winning the SEC 10 years in a row, is over most likely, but the constant crapping on UK, because they have a strong history, is such a bs flex, especially when it wasn't that long ago that UK went to 4 FF's in 5 years, and was within a whisker of 2 more FF's in 2017 and 2019. UK won the league by 3 games in 2020, but y'all act like UK is the new UCLA. That’s just not true.

I don't know how good Pope will be, but neither do you. First blush is he is better at offense than defense. I'm saying that the SEC has parity overall. Teams may be up one year and down the next and that holds true with all of us. I do think coaching matters, so if a team has a good coach it's a distinct advantage.

I do think that teams are more likely to protect a good coach from poaching now a days. SEC programs have money to invest in CBB and are doing so. It is no longer an afterthought.

 

[kyjeff1]

I don't know how good Pope will be, but neither do you. First blush is he is better at offense than defense. I'm saying that the SEC has parity overall. Teams may be up one year and down the next and that holds true with all of us. I do think coaching matters, so if a team has a good coach it's a distinct advantage.

I do think that teams are more likely to protect a good coach from poaching now a days. SEC programs have money to invest in CBB and are doing so. It is no longer an afterthought.

I don't have an argument against any of that. Pope will definitely need to be better on the defensive side of the ball and a lot of that comes down to the guys you have on your team. UK has decorated defenders, so I'm thinking most of the problem is on the coaches not prioritizing defensive intensity.

But I love having a great offense, so I'll take it for now.

The way the SEC is right now, nobody is dominating this league until something happens that weakens the league, but, like I said, the ACC is proof that nobody is immune from becoming very weak.

 

[della]

I don't have an argument against any of that. Pope will definitely need to be better on the defensive side of the ball and a lot of that comes down to the guys you have on your team. UK has decorated defenders, so I'm thinking most of the problem is on the coaches not prioritizing defensive intensity.

But I love having a great offense, so I'll take it for now.

The way the SEC is right now, nobody is dominating this league until something happens that weakens the league, but, like I said, the ACC is proof that nobody is immune from becoming very weak.

The ACC has always been known as 3 or 4 really good teams. The SEC probably has 10 really good teams.

Right now, you may be disappointed that UK has 7 losses. However, in the past y'all wouldn't be sporting those SEC losses. You would be thinking this UK team is great with your big OOC wins. UK is a very good team, but the road is much harder in conference.
However, that is true for all of us and we all have a puncher's chance when the dance gets here.

 

[kyjeff1]

The ACC has always been known as 3 or 4 really good teams. The SEC probably has 10 really good teams.

Right now, you may be disappointed that UK has 7 losses. However, in the past y'all wouldn't be sporting those SEC losses. You would be thinking this UK team is great with your big OOC wins. UK is a very good team, but the road is much harder in conference.
However, that is true for all of us and we all have a puncher's chance when the dance gets here.

Most of their 5 SEC losses can be contributed to injuries. Take anyone's two point guards away and see how they do, especially in this SEC.

Congrats on your impending win tomorrow, yeah, Butler is back (albeit at 70%), but now Jaxson is out and Carr is a shell of himself.

Heck, doesn’t Tennessee have 4 losses? If UK was at full strength all season, they wouldn’t have 7 losses.