Wyoming was almost like Navy football, just muck it up and make it ugly.
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EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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You know that’s Indiana doing that, right? Wyoming averages like 11 turnovers a game and Indiana forced them into a season high 18 turnovers.
St Mary’s is slow and methodical and doesn’t turn the ball over a lot either. But you know who turned the ball over less than st Mary’s this year? Wyoming.
I don’t think Indiana is a very good team, but I’m pretty confident it’s no fun playing them, especially when you’re an out of conference team that doesn’t know as well how to exploit their weaknesses.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Shameless bumpLast historical post before the tournament. This takes a look at both the regular season champions, AND the B10 team that went the farthest in the tournament that year if it was not the champion. This covers the Big Ten Tournament era.......(once again, tl;dr disclaimer)
1998:
Illinois- 2nd Round
Michigan State**- Sweet 16
(Best run- MSU and Purdue; Sweet 16)
1999:
#Michigan State**- Final Four
(Best run- MSU and Ohio State; Final Four)
2000:
#Michigan State**- National Champions
2001:
Illinois- Elite 8
Michigan State**- Final Four
2002:
Illinois- Sweet 16
Indiana**- National Runner-up
Wisconsin- 2nd Round
2003:
Wisconsin- Sweet 16
(Best run- MSU; Elite 8)
2004:
Illinois**- Sweet 16
2005:
#Illinois**- National Runner-up
2006:
Ohio State**- 2nd Round
(Best run- OSU, Indiana, Illinois; 2nd Round)
2007:
Ohio State**- National Runner-up
2008:
#Wisconsin**- Sweet 16
2009:
Michigan State**- National Runner-up
2010:
Michigan State**- Final Four
#Ohio State- Sweet 16
Purdue- Sweet 16
2011:
#Ohio State**- Sweet 16
(Best run- OSU and Wisconsin; Sweet 16)
2012:
Michigan- 1st Round
#Michigan State- Sweet 16
Ohio State**- Final Four
2013:
Indiana- Sweet 16
(Best run- Michigan; National Runner-up)
2014:
Michigan- Elite 8
(Best run- Wisconsin; Final Four)
2015:
#Wisconsin**- National Runner-up
2016:
Indiana**- Sweet 16
(Best run- Indiana, Maryland, Wisconsin; Sweet 16)
2017:
Purdue**- Sweet 16
(Best run- Purdue, Wisconsin, Michigan; Sweet 16)
2018:
Michigan State- 2nd Round
(Best run- Michigan; National Runner-up)
2019:
#Michigan State**- Final Four
Purdue- Elite 8
2021:
Michigan**- Elite 8
2022:
Illinois- ???
Wisconsin- ???
#- BTT champ
**- B10 champ had best run in conference
Notes:
- First thing that's obvious....Michigan State has typically carried the torch for the Big Ten as far as which team made the deepest run in the NCAAT. MSU went the farthest in 8 of the previous 23 years of the Big Ten Tournament era.
- Ohio State and Wisconsin were next having went the farthest in the conference in 5 out of the 23 years.
- Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois and Maryland are the only schools in the Big Ten that have made it the farthest in the NCAAT in a given year.
- The Big Ten has had at least one team reach the following rounds:
(Sweet 16) in 22 out of 23 years
(Elite 8) in 16 out of 23 years
(Final Four) in 14 out of 23 years
(NCG) in 8 out of 23 years, with 1 champ
- If you guys thought 2021 was a bad run for the Big Ten, then you rightfully forgot about 2006. The conference had 3 teams advance to the 2nd Round...................and that's it. Woof.
- In only 4 of the 23 seasons, did a team other than a regular season conference champion advance the farthest in the conference, and only one of those teams (2018 Mich) was the tournament champion:
(2003 MSU Elite 8)
(2013 Mich National Runner-up)
(2014 Wis Final Four)
(2018 Mich National Runner-up)
- 2011-2012 Michigan is the only regular season conference champion that failed to advance past the 1st Round @hailtoyourvictor
- The Big Ten regular season champion does have a few nice streaks going as well, though.
....A RS champ has at least made the Elite 8 in the last three NCAA Tournaments and 7 of the past 10
....And lastly, at least one RS champ has made the Sweet 16 in 21 of the 23 years of the Big Ten Tournament era.
So good news perhaps for at least one of Wisconsin and/or Illinois......
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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That is quite the dominance from MSU and OSU.
I guess I'm not necessarily talking strictly pace but their decision isolate Milandadodododo for a ton of the game. Just seemed like something you'd see in a high school game.
IU makes it further in the tourney than Purdue. You heard it here first.
I think they have a decent chance to win the next game and I'd probably pick them to win it, but that travel will probably affect them a bit.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Remember, there's a streak going right now with First Four teams.
Could Indiana be this year's UCLA?
It's interesting to note that last year UCLA lost their last 4 games heading into the tournament.
They were in the first four for a reason
Who was the Michigan poster roasting Jones? He gets his wish.
Dang, I had UM in my final four. This ruins everything!
No I don’t think they’ll win. I think St Mary’s will have a good plan for limiting Trayce’s touches and IU has shown time and time again that they really struggle to pivot their offensive identity if entry feeds aren’t readily available. I hope they win, and I think they’re capable of winning but I’m not overly optimistic
Obviously if they don’t make another run this year this is the only reason why. Similar with MSU/Walker.
Agreed. I stopped caring about winning the BTT in 2004 driving back from Indianapolis after Wisconsin won it all. We were listening to the selection show on the radio. I almost drove off the road when UW was given a six seed. Wisconsin was rated 10th, 2nd in the regular season with a 24-6 overall record and ran over Illinois (regular season champ) in the championship game. A six seed.
Thanks for putting in the time on this dude!Last historical post before the tournament. This takes a look at both the regular season champions, AND the B10 team that went the farthest in the tournament that year if it was not the champion. This covers the Big Ten Tournament era.......(once again, tl;dr disclaimer)
1998:
Illinois- 2nd Round
Michigan State**- Sweet 16
(Best run- MSU and Purdue; Sweet 16)
1999:
#Michigan State**- Final Four
(Best run- MSU and Ohio State; Final Four)
2000:
#Michigan State**- National Champions
2001:
Illinois- Elite 8
Michigan State**- Final Four
2002:
Illinois- Sweet 16
Indiana**- National Runner-up
Wisconsin- 2nd Round
2003:
Wisconsin- Sweet 16
(Best run- MSU; Elite 8)
2004:
Illinois**- Sweet 16
2005:
#Illinois**- National Runner-up
2006:
Ohio State**- 2nd Round
(Best run- OSU, Indiana, Illinois; 2nd Round)
2007:
Ohio State**- National Runner-up
2008:
#Wisconsin**- Sweet 16
2009:
Michigan State**- National Runner-up
2010:
Michigan State**- Final Four
#Ohio State- Sweet 16
Purdue- Sweet 16
2011:
#Ohio State**- Sweet 16
(Best run- OSU and Wisconsin; Sweet 16)
2012:
Michigan- 1st Round
#Michigan State- Sweet 16
Ohio State**- Final Four
2013:
Indiana- Sweet 16
(Best run- Michigan; National Runner-up)
2014:
Michigan- Elite 8
(Best run- Wisconsin; Final Four)
2015:
#Wisconsin**- National Runner-up
2016:
Indiana**- Sweet 16
(Best run- Indiana, Maryland, Wisconsin; Sweet 16)
2017:
Purdue**- Sweet 16
(Best run- Purdue, Wisconsin, Michigan; Sweet 16)
2018:
Michigan State- 2nd Round
(Best run- Michigan; National Runner-up)
2019:
#Michigan State**- Final Four
Purdue- Elite 8
2021:
Michigan**- Elite 8
2022:
Illinois- ???
Wisconsin- ???
#- BTT champ
**- B10 champ had best run in conference
Notes:
- First thing that's obvious....Michigan State has typically carried the torch for the Big Ten as far as which team made the deepest run in the NCAAT. MSU went the farthest in 8 of the previous 23 years of the Big Ten Tournament era.
- Ohio State and Wisconsin were next having went the farthest in the conference in 5 out of the 23 years.
- Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois and Maryland are the only schools in the Big Ten that have made it the farthest in the NCAAT in a given year.
- The Big Ten has had at least one team reach the following rounds:
(Sweet 16) in 22 out of 23 years
(Elite 8) in 16 out of 23 years
(Final Four) in 14 out of 23 years
(NCG) in 8 out of 23 years, with 1 champ
- If you guys thought 2021 was a bad run for the Big Ten, then you rightfully forgot about 2006. The conference had 3 teams advance to the 2nd Round...................and that's it. Woof.
- In only 4 of the 23 seasons, did a team other than a regular season conference champion advance the farthest in the conference, and only one of those teams (2018 Mich) was the tournament champion:
(2003 MSU Elite 8)
(2013 Mich National Runner-up)
(2014 Wis Final Four)
(2018 Mich National Runner-up)
- 2011-2012 Michigan is the only regular season conference champion that failed to advance past the 1st Round @hailtoyourvictor
- The Big Ten regular season champion does have a few nice streaks going as well, though.
....A RS champ has at least made the Elite 8 in the last three NCAA Tournaments and 7 of the past 10
....And lastly, at least one RS champ has made the Sweet 16 in 21 of the 23 years of the Big Ten Tournament era.
So good news perhaps for at least one of Wisconsin and/or Illinois......
Reading this, to me, it cements how the B1G officiating hurts this conference for the NCAAT. It's two-fold: One, they allow a style that isn't allowed in the tourney and it makes it a difficult adjustment on the fly for coaches and players. Two, the style allowed in conference leads to beat up players come the end of the year. I hope someday, the conference realizes this and has their officiating changed accordingly.
Having a built in excuse is a huge plus as fanbase. No matter who tries to troll you, your starting PG was out. And if you win, you did it without your starting PG!
Downside is it makes you less likely to win the actual game. Better hope Frankie is ready.
Only reason Davidson could beat MSU is because Walker had his foot amputated. Sucks but that’s the reality of the situation.
The most impressive thing about Indiana to me is how they can defend all different styles of play. They went from defending Kofi in the paint to Iowa who doesn't appear to play a traditional center. And while the offense is not all that great, the defense shows up every time I watch them.
HAD HIS FOOT AMP-U-TATE-ED.Foster is getting warmed up, bro!
Show some respect for our injuries. Thank you.
I know, I’m not being serious. He actually didn’t have his foot amputated. It’s an ankle sprain.GFY, the post was obviously making fun of Loyer.
Their ability to muck up games is genuinely impressive. This is anecdotal evidence, but I’ll see a lot of comments after playing IU that “we just had a bad game”. If that happens over and over, I think you can attribute it to IU making teams uncomfortable. It’s just frustrating to play them.
Have you seen his Twitter after he posts his top 25 each week? He can be funny, but the dude literally exists to rile up large/active fan bases to get clicks and views.
IU really impressed me when they beat us, not gonna lie. We didn’t play great (10 for 22 on layups and dunks, JFC…), but they had great energy and toughness that game. Looked like a very different team than the one we beat by 17 in Bloomington.
Didn’t get to watch their game last night.
First round Davison > Jordan.I'm looking for my favorite player to have the game of his life.
Last year I was devastated when Livers went down. This year it obviously sucks but it would take a miracle for these guys to make a meaningful run, Jones or not.
Mostly just feel awful for Jones as a GT with a chance to finally play in a Tourney after willing the team at OSU.
I'll agree to a degree. Last night their defense won the game, it obviously wasn't the offense. An 8 point win felt like a blowout in that one.
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