Last Sweet 16 Appearance For all P6 Teams
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😆 Not sure why you're reaching to label something a troll when you blatantly troll all the time.
You're one of my favorite posters. You also appear, in my eyes, to be one of the more defensive posters on this board too. I respect the fight though.
A troll knows a troll. If I wanted to troll someone that said something as benign as "4 straight for Michigan" I'd point out how lucky they got that the tournament got cancelled last year.
Last year’s FSU team had 2 lottery picks and a 3rd player who made roster in the NBA as well. Can’t say for sure we were final 4, but we were ranked #4 when the season was cancelled. Team was better than this years team IMO. Mental toughness off the charts.
The issue is with your terrible record you would have been like an 8 or 9 seed so you'd likely have to beat KU, Baylor, the Zags or Dayton to make the Sweet 16. Those teams would likely have been 8-10 point favorites over Mich in the 2nd Round game.
I'd say there was a <20% chance that Michigan would've made the Sweet 16 last year even if Michigan is a top 20 team with a healthy Livers.
A troll job would have been like adding an asterisk and saying “fixed it for you.”
I directly stated a fact that last year Michigan would have had a tougher path to the Sweet 16 given the seed and so missing the tourney was a nice break in terms of ensuring the streak stayed alive. I then directly stated it was impressive nonetheless.
Stating facts isn’t trolling. It’s stating facts.
There’s no debating it at all. Last years FSU would beat this years FSU by 10+.
I tried to explain this. He didn’t seem to grasp it. Just kept saying top 15 team.
We were a 6 seed on BracketMatrix at the end of the year last year. Unlikely we would've been an 8 or 9 seed.
We were also 4-0 on neutral courts with an 18 point win over 32-2 Gonzaga.
I think we had a decent chance to make the Sweet 16 as a 6 seed. Sue me.
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UNC's 13 straight Sweet 16's from 1981-1993 is going to be hard to ever beat. UCLA technically has the record, with 14 straight from 1967-1980, but they got a bye to the Sweet 16 from 67-74.
Duke had 9 straight from 1998-2006. Only came away with one ship. But, it was a good run. Gonzaga has 6 straight. If the tournament were played last year, they could easily be at 7 straight by now. Don't think they're slowing down anytime soon.
Any other Sweet 16 streaks that I'm missing?
Duke had 9 straight from 1998-2006. Only came away with one ship. But, it was a good run. Gonzaga has 6 straight. If the tournament were played last year, they could easily be at 7 straight by now. Don't think they're slowing down anytime soon.
Any other Sweet 16 streaks that I'm missing?
13 straight Sweet 16s is kind of unfathomable to me in this day and age of high turnover. It’s like Cal Ripkin’s games played streak or FSU’s top 4 AP finish streak in football. Just seems like one that can’t be matched due to landscape changes.
Not nearly in the same category of others, but this is three straight for FSU. Likely would have been 4 if last year was played. And with the recruits we have coming in, obviously you never know but it seems like FSU is in good place to make the Sweet 16 again next season.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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FSU was special last year, I remember because y’all beat us easily both times we played. We had a top 15 team the entire year too, so that says a lot.
And here's the totality of all leagues.
ACC (15/15):
Florida State - 2021
Syracuse - 2021
Virginia - 2019
Virginia Tech - 2019
Duke - 2019
North Carolina - 2019
Clemson - 2018
Notre Dame - 2016
Miami FL - 2016
Louisville - 2015
NC State - 2015
Pittsburgh - 2009
Boston College - 2006
Wake Forest - 2004
Georgia Tech - 2004
SEC (14/14):
Alabama - 2021
Arkansas - 2021
Tennessee - 2019
Kentucky - 2019
Texas A&M - 2018
Auburn - 2019
LSU - 2019
Florida - 2017
South Carolina - 2017
Vanderbilt - 2017
Missouri - 2009
Ole Miss - 2001
Georgia - 1996
Mississippi State - 1996
Atlantic 10 (14/14):
Dayton- 2014
La Salle- 2013
Richmond- 2011
VCU- 2011
Davidson- 2008
George Mason- 2006
Saint Joseph's- 2004
Rhode Island- 1998
Massachusetts- 1996
George Washington- 1993
Fordham- 1971
St.Bonaventure- 1970
Duquense- 1969
Saint Louis- 1957
PAC 12 (12/12):
Oregon - 2021
USC - 2021
Oregon State - 2021
UCLA - 2021
Arizona - 2017
Utah - 2015
Stanford - 2014
Washington - 2010
Washington State - 2008
California - 1997
Arizona State - 1995
Colorado - 1969
Big East (11/11):
Villanova - 2021
Creighton - 2021
Xavier - 2017
Butler - 2017
UConn - 2014
Marquette - 2013
Georgetown - 2007
Seton Hall - 2000
St. John's - 1999
Providence - 1997
DePaul - 1987
Big 12 (10/10):
Baylor - 2021
Texas Tech - 2019
West Virginia - 2018
Kansas - 2018
Kansas State - 2018
Oklahoma - 2016
Iowa State - 2016
Texas - 2008
Oklahoma State - 2005
TCU - 1968
Ivy League (8/8):
Cornell- 2010
Penn- 1979
Columbia- 1968
Princeton- 1967
Dartmouth- 1958
Yale- 1949
Harvard- 1946
Brown- 1939
Big Ten (12/14):
Michigan - 2021
Michigan State - 2019
Purdue - 2019
Wisconsin - 2017
Maryland - 2016
Indiana - 2016
Ohio State - 2013
Illinois - 2005
Penn State - 2001
Iowa - 1999
Minnesota - 1997
Rutgers - 1979
Nebraska - Never
Northwestern - Never
Mountain West (9/11):
Nevada- 2018
San Diego State- 2014
UNLV- 2007
Wyoming- 1987
Fresno State- 1982
New Mexico- 1974
Utah State- 1970
Colorado State- 1969
San Jose State- 1951
Missouri Valley (8/10):
Loyola Chicago- 2021
Northern Iowa- 2010
Southern Illinois- 2007
Bradley- 2006
Missouri State- 1999
Valparaiso- 1998
Indiana State- 1979
Drake- 1971
WCC (8/10):
Gonzaga- 2021
BYU- 2011
Saint Mary's- 2010
Loyola Marymount- 1990
San Francisco- 1979
Pepperdine- 1976
Pacific- 1971
Santa Clara- 1970
MAC (9/12):
Ohio- 2012
Kent State- 2002
Miami Ohio- 1999
Eastern Michigan- 1991
Ball State- 1990
Toledo- 1979
Western Michigan- 1976
Central Michigan- 1975
Bowling Green- 1963
American Athletic (7/11):
Houston- 2021
Wichita State- 2015
Cincinnati- 2012
Memphis- 2009
Temple- 2001
Tulsa- 2000
SMU- 1967
Big Sky (5/11):
Idaho- 1982
Idaho State- 1977
Montana- 1975
Weber State- 1972
Montana State- 1951
Conference USA (6/14):
Western Kentucky- 2008
UAB- 2004
UTEP- 1992
Louisiana Tech- 1985
UNC Charlotte- 1977
Rice- 1954
Southern (4/10):
Chattanooga- 1997
VMI- 1977
Furman- 1974
East Tennessee St- 1968
Patriot (4/10):
Boston- 1959
Navy- 1959
Lafayette- 1957
Holy Cross- 1953
Metro (3/11):
Niagara- 1970
Manhattan- 1958
Canisius- 1957
Horizon (3/12):
UW Milwaukee- 2005
Detroit- 1977
Cleveland State- 1986
Atlantic Sun (2/9):
Florida Gulf Coast- 2013
Jacksonville- 1970
WAC (2/9):
New Mexico State- 1992
Seattle- 1964
Big West (2/11):
CS Fullerton- 1978
Long Beach State- 1973
Ohio Valley (2/12):
Austin Peay- 1973
Morehead State- 1962
Summit League (1/9):
Oral Roberts- 2021
Sun Belt (1/12):
Louisiana- 1973
Southland (1/13):
Lamar- 1980
ACC (15/15):
Florida State - 2021
Syracuse - 2021
Virginia - 2019
Virginia Tech - 2019
Duke - 2019
North Carolina - 2019
Clemson - 2018
Notre Dame - 2016
Miami FL - 2016
Louisville - 2015
NC State - 2015
Pittsburgh - 2009
Boston College - 2006
Wake Forest - 2004
Georgia Tech - 2004
SEC (14/14):
Alabama - 2021
Arkansas - 2021
Tennessee - 2019
Kentucky - 2019
Texas A&M - 2018
Auburn - 2019
LSU - 2019
Florida - 2017
South Carolina - 2017
Vanderbilt - 2017
Missouri - 2009
Ole Miss - 2001
Georgia - 1996
Mississippi State - 1996
Atlantic 10 (14/14):
Dayton- 2014
La Salle- 2013
Richmond- 2011
VCU- 2011
Davidson- 2008
George Mason- 2006
Saint Joseph's- 2004
Rhode Island- 1998
Massachusetts- 1996
George Washington- 1993
Fordham- 1971
St.Bonaventure- 1970
Duquense- 1969
Saint Louis- 1957
PAC 12 (12/12):
Oregon - 2021
USC - 2021
Oregon State - 2021
UCLA - 2021
Arizona - 2017
Utah - 2015
Stanford - 2014
Washington - 2010
Washington State - 2008
California - 1997
Arizona State - 1995
Colorado - 1969
Big East (11/11):
Villanova - 2021
Creighton - 2021
Xavier - 2017
Butler - 2017
UConn - 2014
Marquette - 2013
Georgetown - 2007
Seton Hall - 2000
St. John's - 1999
Providence - 1997
DePaul - 1987
Big 12 (10/10):
Baylor - 2021
Texas Tech - 2019
West Virginia - 2018
Kansas - 2018
Kansas State - 2018
Oklahoma - 2016
Iowa State - 2016
Texas - 2008
Oklahoma State - 2005
TCU - 1968
Ivy League (8/8):
Cornell- 2010
Penn- 1979
Columbia- 1968
Princeton- 1967
Dartmouth- 1958
Yale- 1949
Harvard- 1946
Brown- 1939
Big Ten (12/14):
Michigan - 2021
Michigan State - 2019
Purdue - 2019
Wisconsin - 2017
Maryland - 2016
Indiana - 2016
Ohio State - 2013
Illinois - 2005
Penn State - 2001
Iowa - 1999
Minnesota - 1997
Rutgers - 1979
Nebraska - Never
Northwestern - Never
Mountain West (9/11):
Nevada- 2018
San Diego State- 2014
UNLV- 2007
Wyoming- 1987
Fresno State- 1982
New Mexico- 1974
Utah State- 1970
Colorado State- 1969
San Jose State- 1951
Missouri Valley (8/10):
Loyola Chicago- 2021
Northern Iowa- 2010
Southern Illinois- 2007
Bradley- 2006
Missouri State- 1999
Valparaiso- 1998
Indiana State- 1979
Drake- 1971
WCC (8/10):
Gonzaga- 2021
BYU- 2011
Saint Mary's- 2010
Loyola Marymount- 1990
San Francisco- 1979
Pepperdine- 1976
Pacific- 1971
Santa Clara- 1970
MAC (9/12):
Ohio- 2012
Kent State- 2002
Miami Ohio- 1999
Eastern Michigan- 1991
Ball State- 1990
Toledo- 1979
Western Michigan- 1976
Central Michigan- 1975
Bowling Green- 1963
American Athletic (7/11):
Houston- 2021
Wichita State- 2015
Cincinnati- 2012
Memphis- 2009
Temple- 2001
Tulsa- 2000
SMU- 1967
Big Sky (5/11):
Idaho- 1982
Idaho State- 1977
Montana- 1975
Weber State- 1972
Montana State- 1951
Conference USA (6/14):
Western Kentucky- 2008
UAB- 2004
UTEP- 1992
Louisiana Tech- 1985
UNC Charlotte- 1977
Rice- 1954
Southern (4/10):
Chattanooga- 1997
VMI- 1977
Furman- 1974
East Tennessee St- 1968
Patriot (4/10):
Boston- 1959
Navy- 1959
Lafayette- 1957
Holy Cross- 1953
Metro (3/11):
Niagara- 1970
Manhattan- 1958
Canisius- 1957
Horizon (3/12):
UW Milwaukee- 2005
Detroit- 1977
Cleveland State- 1986
Atlantic Sun (2/9):
Florida Gulf Coast- 2013
Jacksonville- 1970
WAC (2/9):
New Mexico State- 1992
Seattle- 1964
Big West (2/11):
CS Fullerton- 1978
Long Beach State- 1973
Ohio Valley (2/12):
Austin Peay- 1973
Morehead State- 1962
Summit League (1/9):
Oral Roberts- 2021
Sun Belt (1/12):
Louisiana- 1973
Southland (1/13):
Lamar- 1980
New Mexico was a bit of a surprise for me. I thought they had gotten there under Alford once. Apparently not.
That stood out to me, as well. UNM was a 3 seed in 2010 and 2014. They had several really good teams in the 90's under Bliss. Would have thought they had a Sweet 16 in there somewhere. Evidently they lost a lot in the 2nd Round.
They were. I was alive and living in Jax then. I was a die hard UCLA fan. JU had a few breaks during their run but were awesome. Bob Lanier of St. Boniventure tore up his knee the game before they played JU. The Bonnies considered the hottest team at the time. JU won. Against UK Dan Issle fouled out with 10 minutes left in a nip and tuck game. JU win.
And my fav. A UCLA lineup with no starter over 6-8 thoroughly out rebounded the JAX twin towers Gilmore and Boroughs. UCLA by 11. Gloated to everybody that coach Wooden could have traded teams and beaten UCLA with JAX’s players. I was right ofcourse.
It is interesting how you can look back at some of these years and instantly think, "Well, duh. They had that player." Not all of these guys were necessarily the best in program history, but they were all certainly program-changers.
Oklahoma - 2016 ~ Buddy Hield
Wichita State- 2015 ~ Fred VanVleet
BYU- 2011 ~ Jimmer Fredette
Washington - 2010 ~ Isaiah Thomas
Memphis- 2009 ~ Tyreke Evans
Western Kentucky- 2008 ~ Courtney Lee
Davidson- 2008 ~ Steph Curry
Georgetown - 2007 ~ Jeff Green/Roy Hibbert
Illinois - 2005 ~ Deron Williams
Wake Forest - 2004 ~ Chris Paul
Saint Joseph's- 2004 ~ Jameer Nelson
Miami Ohio- 1999 ~ Wally Szczerbiak
St. John's - 1999 ~ Ron Artest
Valparaiso- 1998 ~ Bryce Drew
Providence - 1997 ~ Austin Croshere
Minnesota - 1997 ~ Bobby Jackson
Massachusetts- 1996 ~ Marcus Camby
Loyola Marymount- 1990 ~ Bo Kimble
Louisiana Tech- 1985 ~ Karl Malone
Indiana State- 1979 ~ Larry Bird
San Francisco- 1979 ~ Bill Cartwright
UNC Charlotte- 1977 ~ Cedric Maxwell
Niagara- 1970 ~ Calvin Murphy
Jacksonville- 1970 ~ Artis Gilmore
St.Bonaventure- 1970 ~ Bob Lanier
Oklahoma - 2016 ~ Buddy Hield
Wichita State- 2015 ~ Fred VanVleet
BYU- 2011 ~ Jimmer Fredette
Washington - 2010 ~ Isaiah Thomas
Memphis- 2009 ~ Tyreke Evans
Western Kentucky- 2008 ~ Courtney Lee
Davidson- 2008 ~ Steph Curry
Georgetown - 2007 ~ Jeff Green/Roy Hibbert
Illinois - 2005 ~ Deron Williams
Wake Forest - 2004 ~ Chris Paul
Saint Joseph's- 2004 ~ Jameer Nelson
Miami Ohio- 1999 ~ Wally Szczerbiak
St. John's - 1999 ~ Ron Artest
Valparaiso- 1998 ~ Bryce Drew
Providence - 1997 ~ Austin Croshere
Minnesota - 1997 ~ Bobby Jackson
Massachusetts- 1996 ~ Marcus Camby
Loyola Marymount- 1990 ~ Bo Kimble
Louisiana Tech- 1985 ~ Karl Malone
Indiana State- 1979 ~ Larry Bird
San Francisco- 1979 ~ Bill Cartwright
UNC Charlotte- 1977 ~ Cedric Maxwell
Niagara- 1970 ~ Calvin Murphy
Jacksonville- 1970 ~ Artis Gilmore
St.Bonaventure- 1970 ~ Bob Lanier
Good list. I might add the following;
Michael Finley-Wisconsin
Larry Finch-Memphis
Whoever Al McGuire’s 1st big recruit to Marquette was.
Those guys didn't play on their school's last Sweet 16 team, though. It's noticeable when a school has a long drought, and then you remember that random player from 20+ years ago.
Ah, I see. I was thinking you were listing guys who changed the trajectory of the program, though if I had noticed the G’town entry I would have realized.
Michigan- Magic Johnson
San Fran- late 50’s Bill Russell and KC Jones
FSU- Dave Cowens late 60’s?
Maryland- Wes Unseld and Len Elmore
ND- Austin Carr, John Shumate. Adrian Dantley.
Providence- Bad Marvin Barnes and Ernie Degregorio.
NCST- David Thompson, Tom Burleson
Louisville- Allen Murphy, Junior Bridgman, Darrell Griffin.
NC- Bobby Jones, Charlie Scott
Indiana- May, Benson, Buckner
UMass?- Dr J
San Fran- late 50’s Bill Russell and KC Jones
FSU- Dave Cowens late 60’s?
Maryland- Wes Unseld and Len Elmore
ND- Austin Carr, John Shumate. Adrian Dantley.
Providence- Bad Marvin Barnes and Ernie Degregorio.
NCST- David Thompson, Tom Burleson
Louisville- Allen Murphy, Junior Bridgman, Darrell Griffin.
NC- Bobby Jones, Charlie Scott
Indiana- May, Benson, Buckner
UMass?- Dr J
I don't think that was really a topic, but OK. How did you pick those schools?
How sad is it that it apparently takes a Chris Paul or Deron Williams level of player just for Wake and Illinois to make a Sweet 16?
Yeah just read the poster’s words again, looks like I jumped the shark. I picked schools from memory, no google, that were elevated in their early years of success and some of the players that did it. I left UK and Kansas off since they had success far before my time. A few others too.
I had to Google that idiom. I figured what I was picturing wasn't what you meant.
I had to Google that idiom. I figured what I was picturing wasn't what you meant.
Lol. Happy Days episode when the Fonz literally jumped a shark in an episode.
Extremely! The state of Illinois is littered with talent. They should be a perennial top 25 team. It is an unusually long drought for them. Looks like Underwood has them in the right direction, at least.
Not sure about Wake. They've got a long ways to go, Such a great program in the 90's. They obviously struggle to compete in recruiting with the likes of Duke and Carolina nearby. But, I'd also say NC State has done a much better job at picking up talent than Wake. AD obviously needs to have a little patience with Forbes. Can't realistically see them being a potential Sweet 16 team anytime soon.
Id argue Michigan is currently one of the top 5 programs in the country. Gonzaga, Nova, Virginia, Michigan and Kansas. Just talking about like...last 5 years or so.
Super Impressive. But, women's basketball is pathetic. UConn won their second round game by 36 points. A couple of years ago they won in the Sweet 16 by 60 freaking points. Parity doesn't exist in women's basketball, which ultimately makes the product very hard to sell.
That, and the product just isn't very good.
For sure. And speaking of the sport being a bad product, I'm always reminded of this clip from a few years ago.
