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Is Michigan St the next blue blood if they win the FF?

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3 titles, history of tradition with multiple coaches over decades.

Not sure Villanova is one either. Even tho they’ve won a natty with two coaches now and have 3 total.

Louisville was 3, but one didn’t count. They’d be higher on the list to me than Nova
 
Look at there wiki page. They are going on 40 years of success. Had a little success before that. Duke didn't start out setting the world on fire. And are one coach driven
 
They have to be knocking on the door, right?
They would probably take the place of Kansas.

Plz explain. I can’t believe I’m even responding to this....

3rd all time winningiest program
3 natties in tourney era / 5 total
3rd most final fours of all
Longest active streak of ncaa appearances at 30
Longest conf title streak in history at 14
 
So who is knocking on the door step, if any?


UL, MSU, UCONN?

UL was close. Pitino f’ed them up.

UConn was too but we are seeing their true colors without Calhoun.

MSU is tough due to izzo only doing much
 
I don’t really mind either way. I only think there are 4 blue bloods with UK, KU, UNC, and Duke. That’s about it. But if MSU gets a third then maybe. It doesn’t really matter though.
 
Duke had 4 tourney appearances before 1978. MSU had 2.


Yeah, Duke was killing it before coach K
 
4 final fours. Played for a natty


2 coaches, only 1 has won a NC. MSU has 2 coaches with NC's

Ya you can slice things to look better.

If MSU won the whole thing, they’d be right at the top of that 2nd tier.

But to usurp Duke, UNC, KU or UK that’s tough.
UNC, UK and KU so far ahead of the pack with all time wins. And Duke is #4. Sparty is #28 bruh
 
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Ya you can slice things to look better.

If MSU won the whole thing, they’d be right at the top of that 2nd tier.

But to usurp Duke, UNC, KU or UK that’s tough.
UNC, UK and KU so far ahead of the pack with all time wins. And Duke is #4. Sparty is #28 bruh


Who gives a shit about all time wins. Its about March baby.
 
Ya you can slice things to look better.

If MSU won the whole thing, they’d be right at the top of that 2nd tier.

But to usurp Duke, UNC, KU or UK that’s tough.
UNC, UK and KU so far ahead of the pack with all time wins. And Duke is #4. Sparty is #28 bruh


Who gives a shit about all time wins. Its about March baby.

You’re contradicting yourself. You just made a body of work statement earlier now it’s all about March.
 
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Ya you can slice things to look better.

If MSU won the whole thing, they’d be right at the top of that 2nd tier.

But to usurp Duke, UNC, KU or UK that’s tough.
UNC, UK and KU so far ahead of the pack with all time wins. And Duke is #4. Sparty is #28 bruh


Who gives a shit about all time wins. Its about March baby.

You’re contradicting yourself. You just made a body of work statement earlier now it’s all about March.

Sparty right up there final fours wise. With 10, as I said; they’re right up there in 2nd tier. And winning it all this year would put them at the top of that 2nd tier prob knocking on Indiana’s 5b slot a little.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Final_Four_appearances_by_school
 
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You’re contradicting yourself. You just made a body of work statement earlier now it’s all about March.


Yes. I am only going by March. No one cares about all time wins. It's about bringing home the hardware.

I would say you need a minimum of 4 titles to be in.

Possibly 5 min.
 
You’re contradicting yourself. You just made a body of work statement earlier now it’s all about March.


Yes. I am only going by March. No one cares about all time wins. It's about bringing home the hardware.

I would say you need a minimum of 4 titles to be in.

So then Michigan needs to be removed as a blue blood of football with their 1/2 natty in 1997 that was shared with Nebraska
 
So then Michigan needs to be removed as a blue blood of football with their 1/2 natty in 1997 that was shared with Nebraska


Yeah, pretty much. But, you have to remember the Rose Bowl tie in. They do get credit for that.


Also, different criteria. Not a good comparison.
 
So then Michigan needs to be removed as a blue blood of football with their 1/2 natty in 1997 that was shared with Nebraska


Yeah, pretty much. But, you have to remember the Rose Bowl tie in. They do get credit for that.


Also, different criteria. Not a good comparison.

To me overall body of work matters. The tourney is a crapshoot sometimes and just luck at the end with a garbage buzzer shot.

Michigan is the all time winningiest in football so should be a blue blood.
 
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To me overall body of work matters. The tourney is a crapshoot sometimes and just luck at the end with a garbage buzzer shot.

Michigan is the all time winningiest in football so should be a blue blood.


Yeah, bringing up football is different. Not a good comparison to basketball.


UM has a good body of work in football. They stay.
 
Well it's all fans of blue bloods making the rules. Duke is coach K.

Exactly. ESPN attempted to slide Duke onto the list using a sponsor’s exemption. We have rectified this situation.

Criteria:

At least 5 nattys from at least 2 coaches. That’s it. The list is powerful because of its simplicity.
 
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To me overall body of work matters. The tourney is a crapshoot sometimes and just luck at the end with a garbage buzzer shot.

Michigan is the all time winningiest in football so should be a blue blood.


Yeah, bringing up football is different. Not a good comparison to basketball.


UM has a good body of work in football. They stay.

Ya so that’s kind of why no one will put Sparty up there. Even with Duke’s 5 natties, UConn has 4. Duke will fall off some without K..

So for me, it’s as follows for top 10:

1) UK
2) UNC
3) KU
4) Duke
5) UCLA

5b) Indiana

6) Louisville
7) Sparty
7b) Nova

8) Syracuse
9) UConn
10) Arizona
 
Exactly. ESPN attempted to slide Duke onto the list using a sponsor’s exemption. We have rectified this situation.

Criteria:

At least 5 nattys from at least 2 coaches. That’s it. The list is powerful because of its simplicity.


I like it.
 
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