If both KU and Virginia drop out, how will they be placed in the West Region?

[thebasketballreasons]

Seems that the selection show left a few questions unanswered. KU and Virginia are 3/4 seeds, it doesnt make sense to replace them directly by the likes of Louisville and Colorado. Moving teams from other regions to the West Region doesnt seem reasonable either. Perhaps they should just reseed in this case?

In this scenario, Gonzaga and Iowa remain as 1/2 seeds, and Creighton moves up to a 3. The other teams will move up by 2 seeds, with Wichita State taking the new 9th seed and Drake as 10th. Then have the 11th seed play-in game between Louisville and Colorado? Sounds like an acceptable compromise to me.

 

[hawkit3113]

Dick Dome

 

[duckboy33]

No, the replacement teams will take the place of Kansas and Virginia and will play their opponents.

 

[thebasketballreasons]

No, the replacement teams will take the place of Kansas and Virginia and will play their opponents.

So Louisville can potentially go from an NIT team to a 3 seed? Is this real life?

 

[Villian07]

Yup no reseeding, it’s nuts. It’s not fair for anyone to advance via forfeit but if anyone should benefit it should be the teams who earned high seeds.

 

[duckboy33]

So Louisville can potentially go from an NIT team to a 3 seed? Is this real life?

Yes, that's what would happen

 

[jackrabbit slim]

Yes, that's what would happen

You should be back on Soundoff. I understand why you're not but you should be.

 

[mkuwonder]

So Louisville can potentially go from an NIT team to a 3 seed? Is this real life?

😂funny ain't it.. Louisville definitely is one of the teams that on the list as a replacement. A possibility would be to up everyone else seed, and place Louisville at a lower seed.

 

[ArlingtonHoo]

Yes, that's what would happen

Only until Tuesday at 6 p.m. Eastern. After that, there are no replacements and the opponent of any team that can't play moves on.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Yes, that's what would happen

When I heard it, I couldn’t believe my ears... you have all of these teams in one place, with multiple days to figure it out, and the solution is to potentially put an NIT team into the #1 overall slot??? NCAA gonna NCAA...

 

[Villian07]

😂funny ain't it.. Louisville definitely is one of the teams that on the list as a replacement. A possibility would be to up everyone else seed, and place Louisville at a lower seed.

that would more logical, but they’ve already said there will be no reseeding.

I guess maybe they think it’s unfair to switch around everyone’s matchup and not give them the same time to prepare as a side of the bracket with no covid issues. Idk seems like reseeding would be the natural thing to do but hell its the ncaa.

But yea we could literally go from out of the tourney to A 1 seed if one of the one seeds has to drop.

I just don’t feel like anyone will drop out unless they can’t put 5 players on the court, even if it’s walking. But hell who knows all this is so crazy to me, like when we got smacked by wisky, carlik couldn’t play bc of covid but he was on thebench on street clothes like wtf.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Yeah, it’s a moot point. No one’s dropping out of the tourney unless they have about 12 positive tests today.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Yeah, it’s a moot point. No one’s dropping out of the tourney unless they have about 12 positive tests today.

Unless every team is already in Indy and in quarantine, then I think there is a good chance atleast 1 team has to drop out.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Unless every team is already in Indy and in quarantine, then I think there is a good chance atleast 1 team has to drop out.

Tomorrow’s the deadline for a replacement team to be added. And outside of a few players from Virginia and KU, I haven’t heard of any positive tests. You think that some team is going to get slammed with so many positive tests today that they can’t put 5 players on the court?

 

[Villian07]

Oh yea I think he meant No one will before the Tuesday deadline to add replacement teams.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Tomorrow’s the deadline for a replacement team to be added. And outside of a few players from Virginia and KU, I haven’t heard of any positive tests. You think that some team is going to get slammed with so many positive tests today that they can’t put 5 players on the court?

Even if we get past the deadline, again unless they are already there and in quarantine, there is a decent chance atleast one team picks up a case and has to back out. I know many teams were told to get there on Saturday, but I’m not sure how many actually did it. We won’t know for sure everyone is clear until about 3 days after the final team arrives in Indy.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Even if we get past the deadline, again unless they are already there and in quarantine, there is a decent chance atleast one team picks up a case and has to back out. I know many teams were told to get there on Saturday, but I’m not sure how many actually did it. We won’t know for sure everyone is clear until about 3 days after the final team arrives in Indy.

You realize that tomorrow’s the last day to add a replacement team, right? That’s what this thread is about. If a team backs out later in the week, it’s a forfeit.

 

[xWVU2010x]

You realize that tomorrow’s the last day to add a replacement team, right? That’s what this thread is about. If a team backs out later in the week, it’s a forfeit.

You said “no ones dropping out unless they have 12 positive tests today”. I’m just saying unless they have all been there since Saturday, I wouldn’t say we’re out of the woods yet. I agree there is basically no chance of a replacement team going in unless something dramatic breaks in the next couple of hours, but I think we might see atleast one team forfeit.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

So Louisville can potentially go from an NIT team to a 3 seed? Is this real life?

It's COVID life dude, don't act surprised. Do you have a better idea for what to do if Virginia and/or Kansas go out? Keep in mind that your solution can not screw up the brackets since that is the main things that drives the $$$ in this tournament.

The easiest thing to do is just slide the replacement team into the slot of the team that can't play. Is it idea? Of course not. Is it better than just having a forfeit? Of course it is.

 

[ExitFlagger]

You said “no ones dropping out unless they have 12 positive tests today”. I’m just saying unless they have all been there since Saturday, I wouldn’t say we’re out of the woods yet. I agree there is basically no chance of a replacement team going in unless something dramatic breaks in the next couple of hours, but I think we might see atleast one team forfeit.

Yeah...as in, before the deadline. Hence why I said today.

I won't necessarily be shocked if there's a forfeit either, but I'll be pretty shocked if we see a replacement team.

 

[xWVU2010x]

It's COVID life dude, don't act surprised. Do you have a better idea for what to do if Virginia and/or Kansas go out? Keep in mind that your solution can not screw up the brackets since that is the main things that drives the $$$ in this tournament.

The easiest thing to do is just slide the replacement team into the slot of the team that can't play. Is it idea? Of course not. Is it better than just having a forfeit? Of course it is.

If UVA or KU had to back out tomorrow, everyone in a region should move up a seed and put the replacement team in a play in game. Don’t give me the bracket argument, the office gamblers will still have 3 days to fill out the new region and no one cares about the play in games getting screwed up.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

If UVA or KU had to back out tomorrow, everyone in a region should move up a seed and put the replacement team in a play in game. Don’t give me the bracket argument, the office gamblers will still have 3 days to fill out the new region and no one cares about the play in games getting screwed up.

So instead of one team getting a new team to prepare for mid week you want every team to get a new team to prepare for mid week? Yea that makes no sense logistically. And the bracket argument is very real. No one wants to have to completely change the office pool and pass out all new brackets 2 days after doing in the first time. You know how annoying that would be? Not to mention confusing for the people who don't follow the sport closely and only show up once a year to do the brackets?

The solution of having the replacement team simply replace the team that has to sit out is far and away the best, most logical and simplest solution.

Only people upset are the diehard cryhards who care enough to post about it on an board like this. 95% of the people following March madness would be more upset about having a whole new bracket come out midweek as opposed to some replacement team getting an easier road than they should.

 

[xWVU2010x]

So instead of one team getting a new team to prepare for mid week you want every team to get a new team to prepare for mid week? Yea that makes no sense logistically. And the bracket argument is very real. No one wants to have to completely change the office pool and pass out all new brackets 2 days after doing in the first time. You know how annoying that would be? Not to mention confusing for the people who don't follow the sport closely and only show up once a year to do the brackets?

The solution of having the replacement team simply replace the team that has to sit out is far and away the best, most logical and simplest solution.

Only people upset are the diehard cryhards who care enough to post about it on an board like this. 95% of the people following March madness would be more upset about having a whole new bracket come out midweek as opposed to some replacement team getting an easier road than they should.

Yes. They’ll have 2+ days to prep still, this is basketball not football, a lot of these teams are coming in having played 4 teams in 4 days last week.

As for the pools, people still do hard copy paper brackets? Even during Covid where most offices are closed? Not annoying at all to pick another region on the Yahoo or ESPN apps.

 

[dukedevilz]

So Louisville can potentially go from an NIT team to a 3 seed? Is this real life?

UL assistant coaches are prepared to send the COVID hotties (maybe strippers?) to the UVA basketball dorm rooms.

 

[thebasketballreasons]

UL assistant coaches are prepared to send the COVID hotties (maybe strippers?) to the UVA basketball dorm rooms.

And to KU's dorm rooms as well so incase UVA aint falling for it, they still have someone else to count on.

 

[Villian07]

So instead of one team getting a new team to prepare for mid week you want every team to get a new team to prepare for mid week? Yea that makes no sense logistically. And the bracket argument is very real. No one wants to have to completely change the office pool and pass out all new brackets 2 days after doing in the first time. You know how annoying that would be? Not to mention confusing for the people who don't follow the sport closely and only show up once a year to do the brackets?

The solution of having the replacement team simply replace the team that has to sit out is far and away the best, most logical and simplest solution.

Only people upset are the diehard cryhards who care enough to post about it on an board like this. 95% of the people following March madness would be more upset about having a whole new bracket come out midweek as opposed to some replacement team getting an easier road than they should.

It’s the simplest and most logical, but not the most “fair” for lack of a better word, way to do it. And then f u start reseeding with the replacement team where do you stop. Do you make them the 16? The 12? It would just be a complicated cluster ****kkk, where just replacing the team that drops out with the replacement team is just so much easier. And you made a great point about every team in the quadrant having to prepare for a diff team than who they thought they were playing while the other sides of the bracket wouldn’t.

I do feel like If a team has to forfeit after Winning a second round game and going to sweet 16 they should reseed, but it is what it is.

 

[xWVU2010x]

It’s the simplest and most logical, but not the most “fair” for lack of a better word, way to do it. And then f u start reseeding with the replacement team where do you stop. Do you make them the 16? The 12? It would just be a complicated cluster ****kkk, where just replacing the team that drops out with the replacement team is just so much easier. And you made a great point about every team in the quadrant having to prepare for a diff team than who they thought they were playing while the other sides of the bracket wouldn’t.

I do feel like If a team has to forfeit after Winning a second round game and going to sweet 16 they should reseed, but it is what it is.

Lets say worst case scenario happens and Baylor has to withdraw tomorrow morning. Should be easy, the 2 becomes the 1, the 3 becomes the 2 all the way up to seed 11. The highest seeded play in team gets automatic entry, and the play in game now moves to Baylor’s old region. Very easy, everyone gets a more manageable opponent so the “game plan” crying should be minimal, and no potential of rewarding a team by not only having them bypass the First Four, but sticking them with a near first round bye with a 16 seed opponent.

 

[Villian07]

Yea that actually makes a whole lot of sense.

But hell its the ncaa, idk why we should expect anything logical coming from those buffoons.

And I’m sure gambling has a hand in the decision to not reseed if someone has to drop out as well. Not so much about Vegas not being able to get a accurate line, just the reimbursing all the bets made if every single matchup changed in a region. There’s no telling how much money has already been wagered on the first round matchups. Not to mention the bracket pools and stuff.

but ur right, what you posted makes WAY more sense then their plan.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Yea that actually makes a whole lot of sense.

But hell its the ncaa, idk why we should expect anything logical coming from those buffoons.

And I’m sure gambling has a hand in the decision to not reseed if someone has to drop out as well. Not so much about Vegas not being able to get a accurate line, just the reimbursing all the bets made if every single matchup changed in a region. There’s no telling how much money has already been wagered on the first round matchups. Not to mention the bracket pools and stuff.

but ur right, what you posted makes WAY more sense then their plan.

I did forget about the actual game to game gambling... the NCAA collects royalties on that I think, that could be what’s driving this circus.

All I’m saying is, when I was 22 I could on the fly create a manageable odd number teamed beer pong tournament in like 20 minutes. But the NCAA with 3 days to spare and all its participants in one place can’t figure out a fair way of dealing with a replacement team? With basically it’s entire livelihood on the line? Lunacy.

 

[sgrooms]

It's really not that big of a deal.

 

[Villian07]

Yea I don’t see anyone dropping out unless they can’t even put 5 walk ons and student managers on the court.

 

[CO_hawk]

Forfeit only. Move on.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Yea I don’t see anyone dropping out unless they can’t even put 5 walk ons and student managers on the court.

Would actually like to see a team play without their coaching staff. Curious how much game day coaching really matters in college hoops.

 

[Villian07]

Go watch the clown show that was Louisville basketball the season we had David Padgett as interim.

And I don’t dislike dp or envy that position he was in, but it was UGLY. Lost a game up 4 with like 4.7 secs left 😂

 

[oldsports_]

I heard a team is about to announce they are dropping out this afternoon. I can't find any verification yet.
Anyone?

 

[xWVU2010x]

I heard a team is about to announce they are dropping out this afternoon. I can't find any verification yet.
Anyone?

The Google machine tells me nothing, but if I had to guess it would be UVA or KU, if our resident posters have any new info they want to share?

 

[jhmossy]

The Google machine tells me nothing, but if I had to guess it would be UVA or KU, if our resident posters have any new info they want to share?

Haven't heard anything about dropping out on our end. We seem to be in good shape to arrive in Indy on Friday out of our quarantine.

 

[jhmossy]

 

[xWVU2010x]

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Hmm that tells me a few teams likely have a case or two. If they are new cases, as in today, I don’t think anyone would forfeit now. But by Friday we may have a team or two bite the dust.