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GOAT: Heavy Metal

Remember the mid 80's Columbia House cassette club? Central Kentucky didn't sell Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Testament.

Mail order.

 
I hate the whole grunge genre name/concept in general. It was something record labels and MTV used to label it. It was all very different. You have people that called the Melvins the godfathers of grunge. They weren't grunge at all. AIC/Soundgarden were very metal influenced if you have listened to any of their stuff prior to getting famous on a big record label. It was more alternative metal but if people are gonna consider Led Zeppelin metal..... Old school Soundgarden and AIC was more metal than any of that.

If you did a vote of metal heads I am sure Maiden would most likely win.

Richmond , Va has had some strong metal/hardcore bands come out of that town over the years. Gwar , Lamb of God , Alabama Thunderpussy , Municipal Waste , Cannabis Corpse. It's a really underrated culture in River City.

It has been said that rock didn't really exist before the formation of Alabama Thunderpussy.

Hallowed grounds indeed there in River City.
 
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It has been said that rock didn't really exist before the formation of Alabama Thunderpussy.

Hallowed grounds indeed there in River City.
Criminally underrated band in the southern rock/southern metal sound. Always felt that they wasted their best years on Man's Ruin record label which hurt them from a notoriety stand point. Those guys came around right when I was getting into HS and thru my mid 20's before they broke up in 2008. They had more of a Lynyrd Skynyrd vibe to them compared to a band like Down. Their cover of "All I can do is write about it" is awesome. Was suppose to be on a Skynyrd tribute album that never manifested. Was only released on the re release of Constellation.
 
I hate the whole grunge genre name/concept in general. It was something record labels and MTV used to label it. It was all very different. You have people that called the Melvins the godfathers of grunge. They weren't grunge at all. AIC/Soundgarden were very metal influenced if you have listened to any of their stuff prior to getting famous on a big record label. It was more alternative metal but if people are gonna consider Led Zeppelin metal..... Old school Soundgarden and AIC was more metal than any of that.

If you did a vote of metal heads I am sure Maiden would most likely win.

Richmond , Va has had some strong metal/hardcore bands come out of that town over the years. Gwar , Lamb of God , Alabama Thunderpussy , Municipal Waste , Cannabis Corpse. It's a really underrated culture in River City.

Yeah, they basically used grunge to label almost anything at the time. From The Cult to AiC to The Smashing Pumpkins to Junkyard, etc... It was all quite different, definitely different enough to not all fall under that label.
 
Criminally underrated band in the southern rock/southern metal sound. Always felt that they wasted their best years on Man's Ruin record label which hurt them from a notoriety stand point. Those guys came around right when I was getting into HS and thru my mid 20's before they broke up in 2008. They had more of a Lynyrd Skynyrd vibe to them compared to a band like Down. Their cover of "All I can do is write about it" is awesome. Was suppose to be on a Skynyrd tribute album that never manifested. Was only released on the re release of Constellation.
That is not metal. Sounds more like pussy. Lita Ford is more metal than that song.
 
That is not metal. Sounds more like pussy. Lita Ford is more metal than that song.
It's a Lynyrd Skynyrd cover. They wrote this one for dummies that don't know what Metal is.

Listen to something like Black Sabbath's Changes from 72' , metal comes in many different forms even with piano pieces.
 
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Would you consider this metal?

Yes Anthrax is metal and they are doing a metal version of a hip hop song. Is Aerosmith not a rock band because they did a Run DMC cover? Metal scene people get too butthurt over what's supposed metal and what's not. Because everybody doesn't sound like Maiden or Testament. Especially when it comes to Nu Metal (Which I mostly hate) or some prog metal bands.
 
Yes Anthrax is metal and they are doing a metal version of a hip hop song. Is Aerosmith not a rock band because they did a Run DMC cover? Metal scene people get too butthurt over what's supposed metal and what's not. Because everybody doesn't sound like Maiden or Testament. Especially when it comes to Nu Metal (Which I mostly hate) or some prog metal bands.
I don't even know Nu Metal or Prog. I guess at 42 i'm old.

Also it's great 20 years later that Antrax/PE video still can't be played without someone bring up Aerosmith/DMC. ;)
 
Speaking of which. White/Rob Zombie, and Black Label Society.
Hey what's this pussy doing singing on a piano?

Zombie started out as noise rock band before becoming what you heard on La Sexorcisto or Astro Creep 2000. Though pretty much everything after White Zombie has been trash.
 
I don't even know Nu Metal or Prog. I guess at 42 i'm old.
Nu Metal is what folks also call rap metal. Progressive or Prog metal are bands like Mastodon , King Crimson , Queensryche , Opeth , Between the Buried and Me. Stuff like that.
 
No lots a smart ass sarcasm. Some of the greatest metal/rock songs ever written are piano driven songs. I was more of playing down your stereotype.
Never made a stereotype. Opposite actually. Not all songs from metal bands are metal songs.
 
Never made a stereotype. Opposite actually. Not all songs from metal bands are metal songs.
I guess it depends. Not metal , but a band like Ween has done everything from folk , to psychedelic , to country. Variation by bands is a good thing. I mean listen to Sabbath's last album Never Say Die. It's all over the place with songs like Air Dance and Johnny Blade.
 
Don't get me wrong, I like when bands mix it up and do some other stuff. Unless it's Manson sounding like a poor man's NiN.
 
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Nu Metal is what folks also call rap metal. Progressive or Prog metal are bands like Mastodon , King Crimson , Queensryche , Opeth , Between the Buried and Me. Stuff like that.
I do like some bands that fall in that range. SOTD, Deftones, Korn. I guess I'm more stuck with the 70's,80's,90's metal bands compared to the 00's-10's
 
I do like some bands that fall in that range. SOTD, Deftones, Korn. I guess I'm more stuck with the 70's,80's,90's metal bands compared to the 00's-10's
You gravitate to what you grew up with for sure. Though as I get older I listen to less newer metal and more listen to older stuff that went under the radar. What would you consider Pentagram?

 
It's funny you mention them. Review your choices was in my CD collection in Columbus. Weird music time for me. Statix, Monster Magnet, Godsmack, plus the other "nu metal" bands mentioned above. Columbus had some cool radio stations back then. Looking back I can see why some of those bands had a subgenre label.
 
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You girls are a bunch of ***s with GnR, AiC, Beatles and shit.





Also @schoonerwest did you just watch Clerks?
My love for you is like a truck, Berserker
Would you like some making ****, Berserker
My love for you is like a rock, Berserker
The Berserker is just so obscene
Likes evil people you know what I mean
He takes your soul and then just rips you apart
He'll steal your heart
Would you like to smoke some pot, Berserker
My love for you is ticking clock, Berserker
Would you like to suck my cock, Berserker
Would you like some making ****, Berserker
 
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I ❤️Thunder Kiss 65 and Black Sunshine. ( with Iggy Pop doing the voiceover).
Love Iggy and The Stooges too. What makes metal great is all the different types of music that have been incorporated into it. For example a band like Rammstein working things like DJ style synthesizers into the music but it's still metal. It's evolution is what's going to keep it viable. If everybody just tries to emulate Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden every time it will get boring.

It's why I am not big into Greta Van Fleet though everyone else is. Not that the kids don't have serious ability. Because it's really hard to imitate Led Zeppelin that accurately. But they eventually are gonna have to branch out and evolve or they will eventually just become stale.
 
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Love Iggy and The Stooges too. What makes metal great is all the different types of music that have been incorporated into it. For example a band like Rammstein working things like DJ style synthesizers into the music but it's still metal. It's evolution is what's going to keep it viable. If everybody just tries to emulate Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden every time it will get boring.

It's why I am not big into Greta Van Fleet though everyone else is. Not that the kids don't have serious ability. Because it's really hard to imitate Led Zeppelin that accurately. But they eventually are gonna have to branch out and evolve or they will eventually just become stale.
I’m with you...love what is labeled Industrial - NIN, Ministery, Rammstein. Love Grunge - AIC, Stone Garden. Love old Heavy, new Heavy and on and on. I don’t know about the labels- I do know Heavy when I hear it. Pretty broad spectrum. I love these threads because I get to check out some stuff I’ve never heard and reminded of stuff I love- Iggy included.
 
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I’m with you...love what is labeled Industrial - NIN, Ministery, Rammstein. Love Grunge - AIC, Stone Garden. Love old Heavy, new Heavy and on and on. I don’t know about the labels- I do know Heavy when I hear it. Pretty broad spectrum. I love these threads because I get to check out some stuff I’ve never heard and reminded of stuff I love- Iggy included.
Don't listen to the newest Ministry album that came out a few months ago. Biggest piece of crap I have ever heard. Haven't heard a single person on planet earth say it's anything more than sh!t.
 
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Pantera is awesome.
 
My love for you is like a truck, Berserker
Would you like some making ****, Berserker
My love for you is like a rock, Berserker
The Berserker is just so obscene
Likes evil people you know what I mean
He takes your soul and then just rips you apart
He'll steal your heart
Would you like to smoke some pot, Berserker
My love for you is ticking clock, Berserker
Would you like to suck my cock, Berserker
Would you like some making ****, Berserker
OOOO I'm gonna suck that dick off.
 
I’m with you...love what is labeled Industrial - NIN, Ministery, Rammstein. Love Grunge - AIC, Stone Garden. Love old Heavy, new Heavy and on and on. I don’t know about the labels- I do know Heavy when I hear it. Pretty broad spectrum. I love these threads because I get to check out some stuff I’ve never heard and reminded of stuff I love- Iggy included.
Check out Kadavar , very old school vibe and German.
 
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I used to listen to one of Zakk Wylde's albums a lot. Pride and Glory I think it was called. It wasn't extremely heavy though.
Yea southern rock album but was probably the best thing the guy has ever done. It's a solid album all the way thru , I prefer that to his BLS work.
 
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