Auburn is off by 4 spots but everything else looks pretty legit.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/rankings/coaches/
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/rankings/coaches/
Final coaches poll for 2018-2019 season....
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ISU in the top 25 is a complete joke. didn't make it past their 1st game they lost to Iowa who only received 18 votes who lost to Tennessee in OT in the 2nd game.
ISU Record 23-12
Iowa record 23-12
even Cincinati that Iowa beat had more votes.
ISU Record 23-12
Iowa record 23-12
even Cincinati that Iowa beat had more votes.
By Conference:
ACC:
Virginia (1st nationally)
Duke (4th nationally)
North Carolina (9th nationally)
Florida State (13th nationally)
Virginia Tech (14th nationally)
Louisville (RV)
Big 12:
Texas Tech (2nd nationally)
Kansas (16th nationally)
Kansas State (19th nationally)
Iowa State (25th nationally)
Baylor (RV)
Oklahoma (RV)
Texas (RV)
Big Ten:
Michigan State (3rd nationally)
Purdue (8th nationally)
Michigan (11th nationally)
Maryland (22nd nationally)
Wisconsin (24th nationally)
Iowa (RV)
Ohio State (RV)
Minnesota (RV)
SEC:
Auburn (5th nationally)
Kentucky (7th nationally)
Tennessee (10th nationally)
LSU (15th nationally)
Mississippi State (RV)
Florida (RV)
WCC:
Gonzaga (6th nationally)
AAC:
Houston (12th nationally)
UCF (RV)
Cincinnati (RV)
MAC:
Buffalo (17th nationally)
SoCon:
Wofford (18th nationally)
Big East:
Villanova (20th nationally)
Marquette (RV)
Seton Hall (RV)
PAC 12:
Oregon (21st nationally)
Washington (RV)
Arizona State (RV)
MWC:
Nevada (23rd nationally)
Utah State (RV)
Ohio Valley:
Murray State (RV)
Big West:
UC Irvine (RV)
Atlantic Sun:
Liberty (RV)
ACC:
Virginia (1st nationally)
Duke (4th nationally)
North Carolina (9th nationally)
Florida State (13th nationally)
Virginia Tech (14th nationally)
Louisville (RV)
Big 12:
Texas Tech (2nd nationally)
Kansas (16th nationally)
Kansas State (19th nationally)
Iowa State (25th nationally)
Baylor (RV)
Oklahoma (RV)
Texas (RV)
Big Ten:
Michigan State (3rd nationally)
Purdue (8th nationally)
Michigan (11th nationally)
Maryland (22nd nationally)
Wisconsin (24th nationally)
Iowa (RV)
Ohio State (RV)
Minnesota (RV)
SEC:
Auburn (5th nationally)
Kentucky (7th nationally)
Tennessee (10th nationally)
LSU (15th nationally)
Mississippi State (RV)
Florida (RV)
WCC:
Gonzaga (6th nationally)
AAC:
Houston (12th nationally)
UCF (RV)
Cincinnati (RV)
MAC:
Buffalo (17th nationally)
SoCon:
Wofford (18th nationally)
Big East:
Villanova (20th nationally)
Marquette (RV)
Seton Hall (RV)
PAC 12:
Oregon (21st nationally)
Washington (RV)
Arizona State (RV)
MWC:
Nevada (23rd nationally)
Utah State (RV)
Ohio Valley:
Murray State (RV)
Big West:
UC Irvine (RV)
Atlantic Sun:
Liberty (RV)
I am shocked that Michigan State stayed ahead of Duke. Poor Auburn gets to the final four and gets jobbed by the pollsters to number 5.
Well, MSU won the Big Ten regular season title/tourney title and beat Duke head-to-head. I don't think that's even debatable. Duke being ahead of Auburn absolutely is. Duke was 32-6 and Auburn was 30-10. Duke beat Auburn head-to-head and had 11 Quad 1 wins before the start of the tournament, whereas Auburn only had 4. Duke was 4-1 against the Final Four teams and Auburn was 0-1.
Well then based on that why in hell is Duke number 4. Rank then 1 ! Hell they beat UVA twice.
Come on, really? You think the final rankings should be based solely on the NCAA Tournament? Does that mean the 2018 Virginia team that went 31-3 should be the #33 team? Or how about in 2004, when Stanford and Kentucky finished the season ranked #1 and #2, respectively. They both lost in the 2nd round. Does that mean they were actually the 17th and 18th best teams? Auburn won in the regional finals in OT. Duke lost by a single point. Duke had a much, much more impressive resume throughout the course of the season.
I don’t understand why it matters.
It really doesn't. Final rankings are only consolation prizes for all but one team. I just think it's hilarious that we are trying to say anyone got jobbed by the pollsters. Then go full potato when a reasonable and sensible explanation was given.
The best team for the season often does not win the tourney but they still will be 1. Basically the tourney winner gets to be number 1 in final poll but then they look at the whole season for the rankings after that.
It's stupid how much these polls are influenced by the tournament. Look at Auburn, they were one missed wide open 3 pointer away from losing to New Mexico State in round 1. If that happens they end up around #20 in this poll. Tourney games should be given more weight that regular season, but not so much as to allow teams to move up or down 10 places.
I appreciate your passion; however, I found the Duke run in the NCAA disappointing. After they won the first round they simply struggled. They sneaked out two wins and then lost in a close one. So no that was not representative of the number four team. Sorry.
Kentucky has shit in its mess kit more than I ever want to remember.
UAB, with help, beat UK in 2004. I remember it well. I have the DVD. I also remember the circumstances.
The UAB coach just got fired.RollLaugh But UK shit in its mess kit against UAB. After losing to a very average UAB team UK should not have been in the top twenty. Tubby Smith trusted old friends and coaches. You don't do that in college basketball. They will screw you over.
Duke this year shit in its mess kit. They should not have been higher than 5th. You are saying that Auburn beat Kansas, North Carolina and Kentucky in the run to the final four and do not deserve to be in the TOP FOUR? Shit, give me a damned break!
Just my opinion.
If the final rankings were based solely on the NCAA Tournament, Auburn would have to be the #3 team. They performed at a higher level than both Michigan State and Duke. No argument here. But final rankings should incorporate the full body of work. Duke beat North Carolina and Kentucky, too... And Virginia (x2), and Texas Tech, and Auburn. If you include the tournament results into the Quad 1 equation, Duke's record is 13-5 (12-3 w/ Zion), while Auburn is 8-8.
That is okay.
UK beat UNC, KU, UL, Auburn twice, and Tennessee and ended up with one less loss. What would UK's record be without injuries?
Why have these polls when they are meaningless? For egos?
Agreed. They are meaningless. I think it's fun, somewhat, to compare preseason and postseason polls. Texas Tech, for example, didn't have a single receiving vote in the preseason coaches poll - nor did Houston. Nevada and Villanova were both in the preseason top 10.
If you want the regular season taken into the account then shouldn’t have Kentucky been number 1 at the end of the 2015 season? This goes back to my original point. You are wanting the regular season to apply to 2 and beyond but it’s not applied to number 1 ever for the final rankings.
If it was the full body of work, Duke might be #2 instead of #4, and Auburn would be a little lower than #5. Certainly the tournament plays a large factor in the final poll, but it's not the end-all factor. Nobody honestly thought Loyola Chicago was the #4 team last year, but they still had a really solid record at 32-6 and were evaluated reasonably well with the #7 ranking. The #1 team will always be the National Champion, of course. The #2 could have been Kentucky in 2015, had the runner-up not been an especially strong team - 2011 Butler, for example. The last time all four Final 4 teams were voted in the top 4 places of the postseason poll was in 2014.
I understand what you are saying but a legitimate case could be made that the best team didn’t win the tourney.
Duke beat UVA twice this year but I'm so used to being told that the regular season doesn't matter that I don't even count those losses.
A legitimate case could also be made that the best team did win the tourney. UVA's final season efficiency rating of 34.22 is 3rd highest since 2002 (only behind 2015 Kentucky and 2008 Kansas). UVA went 35-3, won the ACC regular season championship, and beat the Pac 12 tourney champs, B1G regular season champs, SEC tourney champs, and Big 12 regular season champs in the tournament. Sure, we weren't dominant in the tournament but no one was more consistently good than UVA this year. You don't have to have the best ceiling to be the best team.
Just be glad we choked before you could lose to us again.
The refs wouldn't allow Duke and Zion to lose if we made the Final.
Just be glad we choked before you could lose to us again.
The refs wouldn't allow Duke and Zion to lose if we made the Final.
100% agree with you. Thanks for choking. P.S. I'm setting up a GoFundMe to invite Kenny Goins to the UVA-Duke game next year.
I wasn’t specifically talking about this year. I am talking in general in regards to the year end rankings and the tourney. Kentucky for example was 38-0 into the final 4 in 2015. They probBly had a claim to be 1 still even with the loss
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