He wasn’t coming to UNC anyway. I thought he was UK’s to lose.
He was up until adidas offered money. But I have respect for the power that is UNC..... Jordan can afford more than Cal can.
He wasn’t coming to UNC anyway. I thought he was UK’s to lose.
We don’t. You guys are pissed because we didn’t get smacked.
He was up until adidas offered money. But I have respect for the power that is UNC..... Jordan can afford more than Cal can.
Well thats your own fault........ You not even a little bit frustrated you lost Wiggins to cheating adidas?
In hindsight did you really want Wiggins?
Also Adidas accusations aside. Wiggins was never going to go to UK with the Harrison's there. Wiggins was between KU and FSU in the end. Besides the Adidas allegations, Wiggins was also only 2 hours away from his brother. Nick Wiggins being at Wichita State played a massive part in Wiggins picking KU over FSU.
Meh, in college I'd take him for sure.In hindsight did you really want Wiggins?
Meh, in college I'd take him for sure.
I think the ncaa has a clause that does allow them to review and use third party evidence, including criminal court testimony. But it is written in that bylaw that personal testimony, particularly hearsay that includes having to be left to interpretation isn't usable as proof and cannot be taken as gospel. I think the courts findings will weigh heavily---but they will use the allegations, both ones that might be true as well as made up---to justify looking into players and coaches. And they should.
In hindsight did you really want Wiggins?
Also Adidas accusations aside. Wiggins was never going to go to UK with the Harrison's there. Wiggins was between KU and FSU in the end. Besides the Adidas allegations, Wiggins was also only 2 hours away from his brother. Nick Wiggins being at Wichita State played a massive part in Wiggins picking KU over FSU.
It verified that the school didn't know not necessarily the staff.
I'm more p*ssed we got smacked in the 80's when there was no proof our coaches knew.
For all the hype Wiggins was a little disappointing in college. he wasnt Skal disappointing..... but then again lets be honest...... the real disappointment in Skal was that they ever rated him that highly to begin with.
Skal was overrated but also lacked drive and was incredibly soft.
Wiggins on the other hand definitely has the talent. But man that dude lacks any drive whatsoever. Disappointing because of what you see he can do when he wants to play at a high level.
LaughingIdk for UK. Getting a 1st pick disappointment might hurt UK's reputation.
I challenge you to go 2 days without mentioning UK or their fans. Your obsession is unrealI have no dog in this fight
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Bro, Skal ring a bell?
He wasn't the 1st overall pick.
Duke has that in Okafor but it doesnt seem to hurt them at all. ...
We'd manage. SmokinSmileIdk for UK. Getting a 1st pick disappointment might hurt UK's reputation.
I wouldn’t write him off yet. I think he got his shit together this summer. I’m interested to see how plays this year.
I challenge you to go 2 days without mentioning UK or their fans. Your obsession is unreal
Shred it? It wasn't admitted into court and it certainly doesn't prove any payment was made of any kind to zion---by adidas or from duke. Its basically third party hearsay from a guy desperate to save his own skin. KT's text saying if thats what it takes we need to find a way to land him can be taken a ton of different ways---including absolute guilt---also including doing as much as legally possible to meet the requests without breaking eligibility rules. It certainly helps he didn't land in lawrence.
Does Townsend look like a shady mustachioed man that would set up deals on the back burner? on second thought.....i retract that question.Shred it because it shows that townsend was discussing cheating like that with a guy that was involved in cheating ... showing that KU knew what was going on
Haven't read all three pages, but just to be clear, the headline of this topic is incorrect. They were not charged with "defrauding universities", but rather wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
Haven't read all three pages, but just to be clear, the headline of this topic is incorrect. They were not charged with "defrauding universities", but rather wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
No need to dwell, but;They were also charged with defrauding universities out of scholarship money. at least thats what the articles have said
Ahh I read it as projected number one pick. Fair enough.He wasn't the 1st overall pick.
No need to dwell, but;
"Adidas employee James Gatto, former Adidas consultant Merl Code and Christian Dawkins, a former runner for NBA agent Andy Miller, were found guilty on felony charges of wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud after a three-week criminal trial in federal court in New York."
"The jury found all three men guilty of both counts. Gatto was also convicted on an additional count of wire fraud."
I wasn't trying to be an ass. Just want ppl to know exactly what happened and not led by false titles.I saw two articles mention those and defrauding schools so I assumed it was 3 charges. I guess defrauding schools was part of one of those main 2 charges then
I wasn't trying to be an ass. Just want ppl to know exactly what happened and not led by false titles.
If the NCAA wanted to......... they could get self and KU for playing SDS after they already knew preston was paid by gassnola. When Gassnola said he'd help for both players. I mean its pretty common sense to look into the 2nd guy when you already know the 1st guy was paid and cheated.
I highly doubt the NCAA would want to go that route though
I just don't see how the NCAA does anything now to any specific school regardless of evidence because the schools will claim they didn't know and are the victims. They will claim that you can't punish a victim. I think they will just have some "suggestions" again. But we're years away from that.