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Creighton got absolutely robbed

Justin112

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so glad I’m not a Creighton fan lol. One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. It can’t get any worse honestly
 
Very questionable. I don't know how you make that call at the end of a game unless it's blatantly obvious a foul was committed.
 
In other words, our projected HC is about to be #2-3 on Monday. SmokinSmile

Would be a great get. He is one of the best in the country. Do you guys have a realistic chance to get him or is it more of a hope at this point? If so, could it happen by next season?
 
Would be a great get. He is one of the best in the country. Do you guys have a realistic chance to get him or is it more of a hope at this point? If so, could it happen by next season?

Realistic. Many would be surprised if he’s NOT the coach in a couple of months. His wife and her family are from and live in Louisville. Big time UofL supporters.
 
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As I said in the nBE thread, I was going to the Xavier vs Creighton game this afternoon. I just got home from the game and was gonna come on here and start a thread asking about the final play. I was so pissed, obviously, when they called the foul. I wanted to know if my anger was justified or if i may have just had a bad angle. I guess you guys agree with me, though. Either way, to any Xavier fans on these boards, good hard fought game. Hate to see it end that way, but hopefully we get to play you guys again in the nBE Tournament
 
On another note, where do you guys see Creighton being seeded in the NCAA Tournament? Unfortunately I see them as basically the same as last year. A 5 or 6 seed that is extremely vulnerable to a first round upset that most people pick in their bracket

Agree about your seeding. Today could have helped a ton though had you not been screwed over.

The good news is you still have 2 tough games left which could be resume builders (@ Butler and nova at home). Obviously the nova game is the big one.
 
Agree about your seeding. Today could have helped a ton though had you not been screwed over.

The good news is you still have 2 tough games left which could be resume builders (@ Butler and nova at home). Obviously the nova game is the big one.
Maybe an overreaction, maybe not, but today is the type of game that could be worth a whole seed as we get closer to the NCAA Tournament. Doubt we can beat Villanova at home, but you never know. Butler is also tough at home, so hopefully we can go at least 1-1. A win against a team like Xavier in the nBE Tournament would obviously help too
 
You guys are "up on arms" over a call vs Creighton. Ok. Why not upset with the call vs Xavier that led to three free throws? Contact there was questionable, and really had no impact on the play.

As for the call vs Creighton? If the player had kept his arms straight up, he is probably fine. But he didn't. Yes he jumped straight up. And that is very legal. BUT........he brought his arms straight down in attempt to block the shot. No reason to. But by doing so, the contact then becomes illegal. By bringing his arms down, he has now violated said players offensive cylinder. And that folks is a foul.
 
But your OK with the call on Blueitt?
Yes. He hit a jump shooter on the elbow. Yes it was the non-shooting elbow and the contact was minimal but it's still the elbow. That's a foul everyday of the week at every level every time. Don't touch a jump shooter especially on the arm while in the shooting motion.
 
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You guys are "up on arms" over a call vs Creighton. Ok. Why not upset with the call vs Xavier that led to three free throws? Contact there was questionable, and really had no impact on the play.

As for the call vs Creighton? If the player had kept his arms straight up, he is probably fine. But he didn't. Yes he jumped straight up. And that is very legal. BUT........he brought his arms straight down in attempt to block the shot. No reason to. But by doing so, the contact then becomes illegal. By bringing his arms down, he has now violated said players offensive cylinder. And that folks is a foul.
I thought the foul on the 3 was definitely a foul, but for the other one, that's why I wanted to ask. From my angle I couldn't see if he brought his arms down or not. Their was just a huge logjam of people and I couldn't tell
 
Yes. He hit a jump shooter on the elbow. Yes it was the non-shooting elbow and the contact was minimal but it's still the elbow. That's a foul everyday of the week at every level every time. Don't touch a jump shooter especially on the arm while in the shooting motion.
I agree. Wasn't disagreeing with the call. That is why as an official I always tell coaches---"Not all contact is the same. Therefore, you cannot treat it the same". I see people get upset with calls that involve minimal contact, saying---"If that is a foul, how could play such and such not be a foul. There was much more contact". Well the reason is----That minimal contact effected the play and the outcome, much more than the play that involved more contact.

Thought both calls were right. If the Creighton defender had not brought his arms down----and he did, there is no call. Yes he jumped straight up. But that is only one part of the equation. By bringing his arms down, it created contact, or became part of the contact. And that is a foul.

So that is why I was asking if people were good with the call on Blueitt. If that call is fine, then so was the call at the other end. The contact, though minimal on both ends, impacted said shots.

JMO.
 
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I agree. Wasn't disagreeing with the call. That is why as an official I always tell coaches---"Not all contact is the same. Therefore, you cannot treat it the same". I see people get upset with calls that involve minimal contact, saying---"If that is a foul, how could play such and such not be a foul. There was much more contact". Well the reason is----That minimal contact effected the play and the outcome, much more than the play that involved more contact.

Thought both calls were right. If the Creighton defender had not brought his arms down----and he did, there is no call. Yes he jumped straight up. But that is only one part of the equation. By bringing his arms down, it created contact, or became part of the contact. And that is a foul.

So that is why I was asking if people were good with the call on Blueitt. If that call is fine, then so was the call at the other end. The contact, though minimal on both ends, impacted said shots.

JMO.

Lol. Just stop. They fouls on the three was a clear foul. The one at the end wasn’t even close. It was just a player going out of control and falling down
 
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Lol. Just stop. They fouls on the three was a clear foul. The one at the end wasn’t even close. It was just a player going out of control and falling down
Ok. Watch the play again. Creighton player clearly brings his arms down. Sorry brother----that is a foul. And the out of control argument is irrelevant. You do know that out of control or not, you can still be fouled----Right?

Also, re-read my post. I didn't question the call on Blueitt. It was a foul. I said as much. Clearly a foul----no doubt. The reasoning of that question was due to the minimal contact. Which I don't expect you to understand.
 
Ok. Watch the play again. Creighton player clearly brings his arms down. Sorry brother----that is a foul. And the out of control argument is irrelevant. You do know that out of control or not, you can still be fouled----Right?

Also, re-read my post. I didn't question the call on Blueitt. It was a foul. I said as much. Clearly a foul----no doubt. The reasoning of that question was due to the minimal contact. Which I don't expect you to understand.

99 out of a 100 refs would not call that foul in that situation. The ref that was 5 feet away and looking at all 3 players didn’t call it, but the guy from 25 feet away that was looking through the back of the Jays players ran in and made the call. It was a travesty and I’m 100% sure that ref had money on the game.
 
Has Borden came in here to defend another bad call?

Death, taxes, and Borden sticking his neck out and looking like an idiot to make sure no refs get their feelings hurt.
 
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Borden when he sees a thread about a bad call:

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Has Borden came in here to defend another bad call?

Death, taxes, and Borden sticking his neck out and looking like an idiot to make sure no refs get their feelings hurt.
Your obsession with me is scary. Really scary. All I can do tho is LMAO at someone like you, though. The call was the right call. You cannot bring your arms DOWN. It's a foul. It's pretty clear in the rule book. Would you like for me to send you one?
 
Your obsession with me is scary. Really scary. All I can do tho is LMAO at someone like you, though. The call was the right call. You cannot bring your arms DOWN. It's a foul. It's pretty clear in the rule book. Would you like for me to send you one?

You defending the call is the least surprising thing I’ve read all day.
 
I;d say thats a better description of you when you see a post made by me. Yeah----Much more accurate.

You are the hero refs need. What would those refs today do without a high school basketball ref defending their honor on an Internet forum? For this, they thank you.
 
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99 out of a 100 refs would not call that foul in that situation. The ref that was 5 feet away and looking at all 3 players didn’t call it, but the guy from 25 feet away that was looking through the back of the Jays players ran in and made the call. It was a travesty and I’m 100% sure that ref had money on the game.

So either the ref under the basket sucks for missing a call right in front of him or the ref that made the call sucks for making that call 25 feet away.

Either way a ref made a mistake (shocker).
 
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99 out of a 100 refs would not call that foul in that situation. The ref that was 5 feet away and looking at all 3 players didn’t call it, but the guy from 25 feet away that was looking through the back of the Jays players ran in and made the call. It was a travesty and I’m 100% sure that ref had money on the game.
LMAO...The official who made the call is the guy who is suppose to make the call. It's his call. And there was no official 5 feet away.Jesus.
 
You are the hero refs need. What would those refs today do without a high school basketball ref defending their honor on an Internet forum? For this, they thank you.
I officiated CBB for a long time there little fella. Now, run along, send me another private message on how "your not trying to derail a thread". You're a joke of a poster. A sad, sad little man really. THe only joy you seem to get (in life) is trolling people on an internet forum.

Sad.
 
You defending the call is the least surprising thing I’ve read all day.
You responding is less shocking. Do me a favor, though. Go see how much I defended the tech called on Boykin from La. Tech. Get back with me after that.

Such a sad, sad dude you are.
 
I officiated CBB for a long time there little fella. Now, run along, send me another private message on how "your not trying to derail a thread". You're a joke of a poster. A sad, sad little man really. THe only joy you seem to get (in life) is trolling people on an internet forum.

Sad.

The ref community would be lost without you.
 
LMAO...The official who made the call is the guy who is suppose to make the call. It's his call. And there was no official 5 feet away.Jesus.

As a season ticket holder and someone that was 30yds away I completely disagree with your revisionist history.
 
Ok. Watch the play again. Creighton player clearly brings his arms down. Sorry brother----that is a foul. And the out of control argument is irrelevant. You do know that out of control or not, you can still be fouled----Right?

Also, re-read my post. I didn't question the call on Blueitt. It was a foul. I said as much. Clearly a foul----no doubt. The reasoning of that question was due to the minimal contact. Which I don't expect you to understand.

Dude he was straight up the whole time until he blocked the shot. There wasnt any other contact beside the contact that the Xavier player initiated. You are literally the only guy that I’ve seen that thought it was a foul. I’m not a Creighton fan so I don’t even care. But I have a buddy who went to Xavier and feels they got handed the game.
 
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