Crazy Duke Stat...
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But the refs…
/s the obvious difference in the game was rebounding
/s the obvious difference in the game was rebounding
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One of the best teams to not win a championship for sure. Probably a battle between them and 2015 Kentucky for best team to not make title game
Did dukedevilz retire from message boards?
The only Duke fans I remember posting last night were @GhostOf301 and @tw3301
The rest were not heard from
The rest were not heard from
Wrong. 1981 DePaul quite easily.
Even crazier Duke stat:
They suck.
They suck.
Houston hit a few more 3s and got 9 more rebounds. I don't really consider what they did "choking" until the final 2 minutes with the TOs, missed FTs in clutch time. Houston deserves credit for taking the game late and hanging close all game. Houston is so poised and good in late game situations too
While I agree Houston deserves a ton of credit, you can’t have the talent Duke does and blow that lead. It’s not choking if a better team takes control, but if there’s no talent discrepancy it’s definitely some kind of choke.
I've got it at 60% Scheyer, 40% Duke fans
It still wasn’t as bad of a Duke choke job as the ‘99 final.
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yep, that was the game that cemented Coach K as the most overrated coach/fraud in sports history.
How good can they be? They couldn't even beat lowly Kentucky.
I mostly blame Scheyer for that loss but from everything I’ve heard from people in the program, this dude is an absolute psycho in terms of his dedication to the job.
He’s got the nice Jewish guy personality but this loss probably darkened his soul. Villain Scheyer is probably not good news for the rest of college basketball in the decade ahead. He’s going to take this loss very very personally.
I'm good. Still here. Backlogged at work. And baby #4 is coming in a couple weeks (thankfully it will be the first one not born in March). My plate is fuller than normal.
Didn't even know you were knocked up. Congrats!
His protegee managed to pull off a choke job no one has seen, good job Jon
We know you won't be here long because you have to perform your wifey duties.
Again, a choke job for the ages!
I like making lists. So, here it is. The worst/most painful tournament losses for me since I've been watching Duke.
1. UConn, 1999 - NCAA Title Game (arguably the most talented Duke team ever. Brand had 2 shots in the final 10 minutes?)
2. Indiana, 2002 - Sweet 16 (#1 team heading to the tournament; 6 point lead with 2+ minutes left)
3. UConn, 2004 - Final Four (8 point lead with 3+ minutes left - all 3 bigs foul out)
4. Houston, 2025 - Final Four (6 point lead with less than 40 seconds)
5. Kentucky, 1998 - Elite Eight (17 point lead blown with under 10 minutes left)
6. UNC, 2022 - Final Four (Missed free throws and possibly some missed calls in the final minute)
7. Michigan State, 2019 - Elite Eight (0 transition points)
8. Kansas, 2018 - Elite Eight (Grayson's shot at the end of regulation went around the rim twice before bouncing out)
9. Arkansas, 1994 - NCAA Title Game (Scottie Thurman makes a 3-pointer with 1 sec on the shot clock and 50 seconds in the game)
10. Lehigh, 2012 - Round of 64 (2 Seed! Only saving grace is CJ McCollum was a really good pro)
1. UConn, 1999 - NCAA Title Game (arguably the most talented Duke team ever. Brand had 2 shots in the final 10 minutes?)
2. Indiana, 2002 - Sweet 16 (#1 team heading to the tournament; 6 point lead with 2+ minutes left)
3. UConn, 2004 - Final Four (8 point lead with 3+ minutes left - all 3 bigs foul out)
4. Houston, 2025 - Final Four (6 point lead with less than 40 seconds)
5. Kentucky, 1998 - Elite Eight (17 point lead blown with under 10 minutes left)
6. UNC, 2022 - Final Four (Missed free throws and possibly some missed calls in the final minute)
7. Michigan State, 2019 - Elite Eight (0 transition points)
8. Kansas, 2018 - Elite Eight (Grayson's shot at the end of regulation went around the rim twice before bouncing out)
9. Arkansas, 1994 - NCAA Title Game (Scottie Thurman makes a 3-pointer with 1 sec on the shot clock and 50 seconds in the game)
10. Lehigh, 2012 - Round of 64 (2 Seed! Only saving grace is CJ McCollum was a really good pro)
So you're saying after that massive choke job we all should be scared because Jon is coming?
Thanks! I think this will be the last one. Wife and I are in our late 30's.
I was always curious where Duke fans rated the '98 UK game. That game, in my mind, was over. Similarly to Saturday's game against Houston when Duke was up 14 with like 8 or 9 min left. It was over in my mind.
College basketball is a crazy sport.
Also just read that the Duke Houston game peaked at 20 million viewers. Will be curious to see what tonight's game does.
That was a tough loss, for sure. Definitely thought we were heading to the Final Four.
I may have ranked that '98 E8 a little higher had Duke been slightly better. Yes, we were a 1 seed, but I honestly felt like UNC was better than us all season long. They beat us pretty convincingly 2/3 times. The top 4 games I included, I felt like Duke had the most talented team in the country - and things just feel apart for various reasons which intensified the agony of defeat.
A nearly 9 PM tip on a Monday certainly isn't doing any viewership favors. Tip the damn game at 7. Nobody gives a shit about the west coasters anyway.
Listed as 8:50, but that's probably just when all the pre-game bullshit and intros start, highly doubt it tips at 8:50.
Last 7 rebounds of the game all went to Houston lol. Houston is resilient.
Absolute bs the tip off is that late. 8 pm wouldn’t be that bad, but you’re right…no one gives a shit about cbb on the west coast, makes no sense. I remember being in SF during our run in 2013, and heading to a sports bar near my office, and everyone wanted to watch Giants spring training. Me and a couple homies had to basically plea with the bartender to change the ****ing channel.
To get a KU fan's perspective...what was a bigger collapse in your opinion: Duke against Houston, or Memphis against KU in 2008?
I don't remember all the specifics from the KU Memphis game, but I believe Memphis also had a 9 point lead with 2 min left (like Duke); however, IIRC (and you may have to correct me on this), Memphis' collapse seemed to be solely due to missed free throws. Duke had some of that, but they also had the some key TOs, don't recall if Memphis had that issue as well.
I think Duke’s was definitely worse. Blowing a 6 pt lead with 30 seconds left is hard to do (although KU did it vs this same Houston team - lol).
Houston even made a couple huge mistakes at the end (Tucker’s dumb technical on the inbound and an ill-advised foul) and Duke still couldn’t seal the deal. Plus, Duke lost it in regulation while 08 went to OT.
Tough foul call on Flagg at the end though.
