25 man Midseason Wooden Watch list is out

[boilerzz]

4 teams with multiple players. Purdue with 3, Gonzaga, UCLA and Duke all with 2.

Name	School	Conference	Height	Class	Position
Max Abmas	Oral Roberts	Summit League	6-0	Jr.	G
Ochai Agbaji	Kansas	Big 12	6-5	Sr.	G
James Akinjo	Baylor	Big 12	6-1	Sr.	G
Paolo Banchero	Duke	ACC	6-10	Fr.	F
Izaiah Brockington	Iowa State	Big 12	6-4	Sr.	G
Kofi Cockburn*	Illinois	Big Ten	7-0	Jr.	C
Johnny Davis	Wisconsin	Big Ten	6-5	Soph	G
Hunter Dickinson*	Michigan	Big Ten	7-1	Soph	C
Zach Edey	Purdue	Big Ten	7-4	Soph	C
Collin Gillespie	Villanova	Big East	6-3	Sr.	G
Chet Holmgren	Gonzaga	WCC	7-0	Fr.	C
Jaden Ivey	Purdue	Big Ten	6-4	Soph	G
Trayce Jackson-Davis	Indiana	Big Ten	6-9	Jr.	F
Jaime Jaquez Jr.	UCLA	Pac-12	6-7	Jr.	G/F
Johnny Juzang	UCLA	Pac-12	6-7	Jr.	G
E.J. Liddell	Ohio State	Big Ten	6-7	Jr.	F
Bennedict Mathurin	Arizona	Pac-12	6-6	Soph	G
Isaiah Mobley	USC	Pac-12	6-10	Jr.	F
Wendell Moore Jr.	Duke	ACC	6-5	Jr.	F
Keegan Murray	Iowa	Big Ten	6-8	Soph	F
David Roddy	Colorado State	Mountain West	6-6	Jr.	F
Jabari Smith	Auburn	SEC	6-10	Fr.	F
Drew Timme*	Gonzaga	WCC	6-10	Jr.	F
Oscar Tshiebwe	Kentucky	SEC	6-9	Jr.	F
Trevion Williams	Purdue	Big Ten	6-10	Sr.	F

 

[Kevin Bryan]

*Notables excised from the list included projected future NBA lottery picks Emoni Bates and Jalen Duren of Memphis.

Woof... what a kick in the nuts to Penny. He'll keep convincing kids to come play for him though. 😆

 

[WeAreDePaul]

I quizzed my wife. I said the name and she had to name the school. She got 13/30 correct. Not bad.


Edit: I still beat her, but not as vociferously as if she bombed it.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

I quizzed my wife. I said the name and she had to name the school. She got 13/30 correct. Not bad.


Edit: I still beat her, but not as vociferously as if she bombed it.

Even more impressive that you named 30 people when there are only 25 on the list.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Even more impressive that you named 30 people when there are only 25 on the list.

Damn, 13/25…that’s pretty impressive.

Sorry my math was off. I’m currently procrastinating packing for a weekend trip and I procrastinate by smoking a shit ton of pot.

 

[Uncle Baby Billy]

I see one MASSIVE player is missing.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

*Notables excised from the list included projected future NBA lottery picks Emoni Bates and Jalen Duren of Memphis.

Woof... what a kick in the nuts to Penny. He'll keep convincing kids to come play for him though. 😆

Well, Fedex isn't going to stop paying for them.

 

[dukedevilz]

Max Abmas doesn't need to be on there. He was phenomenal last year. But, his scoring has gone down, as well as his effective field goal percentage. And Oral Roberts is only 9-6.

There are probably more, but I'd say at least Taz Sherman, Christian Braun, Tari Eason, Kendric Davis, Jaden Shackelford, Colin Castleton, Julian Champagnie, Alondes Williams, and Christian Koloko are more deserving.

 

[Villian07]

Max won me some coin last night, lay off 😂

 

[dukedevilz]

Max won me some coin last night, lay off 😂

He had a great game. Arguably his best game of the season. Don't get me wrong, he's a really, really good player. But, playing for a 10-6 Oral Roberts team, he'll need consistently great numbers to be considered among the top 25 players in the nation.

 

[Villian07]

Oh i totally agree i was just making a joke

 

[Villian07]

I will say he cant have many good teamates, they were only favored by 4 last noght at St Thomas(wtf is st thomas lol sounds like a hospital)

 

[dukedevilz]

I will say he cant have many good teamates, they were only favored by 4 last noght at St Thomas(wtf is st thomas lol sounds like a hospital)

Pretty sure this is their first season as a D1 program. And now Minnesota finally has another D1 school in the state.

 

[Villian07]

Dam thats insane minn only had 1 d1 team. Even kentucky has close to 10 i think, probly a few less.

 

[Fighter of the Nightman]

Dam thats insane minn only had 1 d1 team. Even kentucky has close to 10 i think, probly a few less.

Makes Minnesota’s lack of a basketball history even more surprising and pathetic, lol.

 

[dukedevilz]

thats insane minn only had 1 d1 team. Even kentucky has close to 10 i think, probly a few less.

Makes Minnesota’s lack of a basketball history even more surprising and pathetic, lol.

Minnesota is soooo bad at keeping talent in the state. So bad.

Look at some of the Minnesota guys that have played college basketball just the past two seasons... all of these guys have played in the NBA.

Jalen Suggs, Gonzaga
Jericho Sims, Texas
McKinley Wright, Colorado
Freddie Gillespie, Baylor
Tre Jones, Duke
Tyrell Terry, Stanford
Zeke Nnaji, Arizona
Ade Murkey, Denver (this one can be forgiven; no one knew who he was)

That doesn't include very productive college guys that haven't logged minutes in the league, like Matthew Hurt (Duke) and Nate Reuvers (Wisconsin). Heck, Wisconsin's current team includes three native Minnesotans - Brad Davison, Tyler Wahl, and Steven Crowl.

The Wooden Midseason Top 25 players includes two natives of Minnesota, Chet Holmgren (Gonzaga) and David Roddy (Colorado State). Dawson Garcia (UNC) and Race Thompson (Indiana) are two other notable Minnesota guys.

They do snag a few of the quality ones, like Daniel Oturu and Amir Coffey. Recently got Jamison Battle to transfer home. But, Richard Pitino struggled mightily to keep these kids in state. If Ben Johnson can just retain 1/3 of the top local talent, Minnesota should be near a top 25 team every year.

 

[dukedevilz]

Also, my dude Rocky Kreuser, best white dunker in America, is from Minnesota.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Minnesota is soooo bad at keeping talent in the state. So bad.

Look at some of the Minnesota guys that have played college basketball just the past two seasons... all of these guys have played in the NBA.

Jalen Suggs, Gonzaga
Jericho Sims, Texas
McKinley Wright, Colorado
Freddie Gillespie, Baylor
Tre Jones, Duke
Tyrell Terry, Stanford
Zeke Nnaji, Arizona
Ade Murkey, Denver (this one can be forgiven; no one knew who he was)

That doesn't include very productive college guys that haven't logged minutes in the league, like Matthew Hurt (Duke) and Nate Reuvers (Wisconsin). Heck, Wisconsin's current team includes three native Minnesotans - Brad Davison, Tyler Wahl, and Steven Crowl.

The Wooden Midseason Top 25 players includes two natives of Minnesota, Chet Holmgren (Gonzaga) and David Roddy (Colorado State). Dawson Garcia (UNC) and Race Thompson (Indiana) are two other notable Minnesota guys.

They do snag a few of the quality ones, like Daniel Oturu and Amir Coffey. Recently got Jamison Battle to transfer home. But, Richard Pitino struggled mightily to keep these kids in state. If Ben Johnson can just retain 1/3 of the top local talent, Minnesota should be near a top 25 team every year.

Reid Travis is UK's only player ever from Minnesota.

 

[dukedevilz]

Reid Travis is UK's only player ever from Minnesota.

Yep. That's another really good collegiate player from Minnesota.

We've taken quite a few from Minnesota. Matthew Hurt, Tre Jones, Tyus Jones, Gary Trent Jr, Nick Horvath.

Sometimes we have lost out to the Gophers. We signed Kris Humphries to a LOI back in 2003 before he asked for a release, and later signed with Minnesota. We recruited Rick Rickert pretty hard, and he decided to stay home.

But, come on. There's close to 6 million people in Minnesota; they're the 22nd most populous state. We're not talking about North Dakota or South Dakota. Minnesota has had free reigns to snag dozens and dozens of top 100 kids. They haven't had to compete with another school in the state; biggest competition is usually Wisconsin. Their inability to retain the local kids has been astonishing.

 

[jwardelt]

Yep. That's another really good collegiate player from Minnesota.

We've taken quite a few from Minnesota. Matthew Hurt, Tre Jones, Tyus Jones, Gary Trent Jr, Nick Horvath.

Sometimes we have lost out to the Gophers. We signed Kris Humphries to a LOI back in 2003 before he asked for a release, and later signed with Minnesota. We recruited Rick Rickert pretty hard, and he decided to stay home.

But, come on. There's close to 6 million people in Minnesota; they're the 22nd most populous state. We're not talking about North Dakota or South Dakota. Minnesota has had free reigns to snag dozens and dozens of top 100 kids. They haven't had to compete with another school in the state; biggest competition is usually Wisconsin. Their inability to retain the local kids has been astonishing.

We consider Minnesota to be in-state recruiting. Probably had more success there than our own state.

 

[dukedevilz]

We consider Minnesota to be in-state recruiting. Probably had more success there than our own state.

Haha might as well be! You guys own that state for recruiting.

 

[jwardelt]

Haha might as well be! You guys own that state for recruiting.

Three current starters from the great state of Minnesota.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Three current starters from the great state of Minnesota.

That must sting.

 

[jwardelt]

That must sting.

Why?

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Why?

For them.

 

[boilerzz]

@Deathclutch GITT and defend your honor.....if you can.

 

[jwardelt]

For them.

ok, I'm like why the hell does that sting for us. haha. Pitino was a great coach for every other team in the B1G. Just like Fran.

 

[RR30]

Minnesota is soooo bad at keeping talent in the state. So bad.

Look at some of the Minnesota guys that have played college basketball just the past two seasons... all of these guys have played in the NBA.

Jalen Suggs, Gonzaga
Jericho Sims, Texas
McKinley Wright, Colorado
Freddie Gillespie, Baylor
Tre Jones, Duke
Tyrell Terry, Stanford
Zeke Nnaji, Arizona
Ade Murkey, Denver (this one can be forgiven; no one knew who he was)

That doesn't include very productive college guys that haven't logged minutes in the league, like Matthew Hurt (Duke) and Nate Reuvers (Wisconsin). Heck, Wisconsin's current team includes three native Minnesotans - Brad Davison, Tyler Wahl, and Steven Crowl.

The Wooden Midseason Top 25 players includes two natives of Minnesota, Chet Holmgren (Gonzaga) and David Roddy (Colorado State). Dawson Garcia (UNC) and Race Thompson (Indiana) are two other notable Minnesota guys.

They do snag a few of the quality ones, like Daniel Oturu and Amir Coffey. Recently got Jamison Battle to transfer home. But, Richard Pitino struggled mightily to keep these kids in state. If Ben Johnson can just retain 1/3 of the top local talent, Minnesota should be near a top 25 team every year.

Reminds me of Indiana. Who is even more pathetic than Minnesota RollLaugh

 

[dukedevilz]

Reminds me of Indiana. Who is even more pathetic than Minnesota RollLaugh

I think Minnesota's recruiting woes are worse, personally.

The state of Indiana certainly has more overall talent. And they've whiffed on more players. But, they also share the state with Purdue, Notre Dame, and Butler. Minnesota is the 22nd most populous state, and they don't have any in-state rival to compete with. To the west of Minnesota, there is North and South Dakota. No Power schools. The only power schools that even border the state of Minnesota are Wisconsin, Iowa, and Iowa State. Indiana, on the other hand, has to deal with power schools that border the state like Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Kentucky, Louisville, and Illinois.

I understand they're not going to keep all of these guys. And 5-star recruits like Chet Holmgren, Jalen Suggs, and Tre Jones are going to be especially hard to sign. But, there are plenty of top 100, top 250 kids coming out of that state. Wisconsin does more than okay plucking several from Minnesota.

 

[RR30]

I think Minnesota's recruiting woes are worse, personally.

The state of Indiana certainly has more overall talent. And they've whiffed on more players. But, they also share the state with Purdue, Notre Dame, and Butler. Minnesota is the 22nd most populous state, and they don't have any in-state rival to compete with. To the west of Minnesota, there is North and South Dakota. No Power schools. The only power schools that even border the state of Minnesota are Wisconsin, Iowa, and Iowa State. Indiana, on the other hand, has to deal with power schools that border the state like Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Kentucky, Louisville, and Illinois.

I understand they're not going to keep all of these guys. And 5-star recruits like Chet Holmgren, Jalen Suggs, and Tre Jones are going to be especially hard to sign. But, there are plenty of top 100, top 250 kids coming out of that state. Wisconsin does more than okay plucking several from Minnesota.

You're right I was just making fun of Indiana. It never gets old.

 

[MGC_07]

Minnesota in their 2022 class have committed the 7th and 10th ranked player in their state. Most of the top 6 they recruited in some form and didn’t land.

 

[UL_1986]

I maybe know of 9 people on this list. I’m out of the loop with cbb.

 

[ReturnOfOakboy1]

No Tari?

 

[Villian07]

To be fair who the fk wants to live in cold ass minnesota period. Id be looking to head south for college.

Is pretty insane the talent thats come thru such a smallish state pop wise tho.

 

[Deathclutch]

Minnesota is soooo bad at keeping talent in the state. So bad.

Look at some of the Minnesota guys that have played college basketball just the past two seasons... all of these guys have played in the NBA.

Jalen Suggs, Gonzaga
Jericho Sims, Texas
McKinley Wright, Colorado
Freddie Gillespie, Baylor
Tre Jones, Duke
Tyrell Terry, Stanford
Zeke Nnaji, Arizona
Ade Murkey, Denver (this one can be forgiven; no one knew who he was)

That doesn't include very productive college guys that haven't logged minutes in the league, like Matthew Hurt (Duke) and Nate Reuvers (Wisconsin). Heck, Wisconsin's current team includes three native Minnesotans - Brad Davison, Tyler Wahl, and Steven Crowl.

The Wooden Midseason Top 25 players includes two natives of Minnesota, Chet Holmgren (Gonzaga) and David Roddy (Colorado State). Dawson Garcia (UNC) and Race Thompson (Indiana) are two other notable Minnesota guys.

They do snag a few of the quality ones, like Daniel Oturu and Amir Coffey. Recently got Jamison Battle to transfer home. But, Richard Pitino struggled mightily to keep these kids in state. If Ben Johnson can just retain 1/3 of the top local talent, Minnesota should be near a top 25 team every year.

You forgot Kendall Brown, who played HS basketball here until his Senior year when he went to Sunrise Christan Academy. He'll be a first rounder in the upcoming draft.

There was plenty of debate over David Roddy on our boards. I was in favor of the Gophers offering him. He produced pretty well in the Nike EYBL and was a good all-around athlete albeit undersized. I don't think anyone saw him transforming into the player he is now, but I thought he would, at the very least, be a nice backup player in the B1G.

Ben Johnson is definitely changing that however. 3/4 of our recruits are instate. Braeden Carrington is being slept on in the rankings. He is the best player on the best team in the state and ranked outside the top 200? Not a chance if anyone has actually seen him play. As of now he is the favorite for MN Mr. Basketball over Holloman.

 

[Deathclutch]

Minnesota in their 2022 class have committed the 7th and 10th ranked player in their state. Most of the top 6 they recruited in some form and didn’t land.

The rankings are not great because Covid. You believe that Prince Aligbe is the #2 player in the state and 4 star recruit yet he chose to go to Boston College? Not a chance. Most of his other high major offers weren't committable. He's a hell of an athlete, but he's a wing that can't shoot. Remember Rodney Williams? That's the type of player he is.

 

[Afamu]

Moore is out from Duke now. After this week, he will never recover. He played awful.

And Banchero has to do more and play better. I believe K is misusing him. He needs to play closer to the hoop and utilize his skills and then pop out for a 3 here and there to keep the big men honest.

 

[dukedevilz]

You forgot Kendall Brown, who played HS basketball here until his Senior year when he went to Sunrise Christan Academy. He'll be a first rounder in the upcoming draft.

There was plenty of debate over David Roddy on our boards. I was in favor of the Gophers offering him. He produced pretty well in the Nike EYBL and was a good all-around athlete albeit undersized. I don't think anyone saw him transforming into the player he is now, but I thought he would, at the very least, be a nice backup player in the B1G.

Ben Johnson is definitely changing that however. 3/4 of our recruits are instate. Braeden Carrington is being slept on in the rankings. He is the best player on the best team in the state and ranked outside the top 200? Not a chance if anyone has actually seen him play. As of now he is the favorite for MN Mr. Basketball over Holloman.

Wow, didn't even realize Kendall Brown was a Minnesota native. Let that one slip by me. He's a fun player to watch, so incredibly athletic. One of the best finishers at the rim in college basketball.

Seems like Pitino would have been more keen on Roddy. I mean, Jordan Murphy is basically the same size and he turned out more than okay. Roddy is putting up similar numbers. Not as good of a rebounder, but perhaps a better shooter and scorer. I knew who Roddy was right away because his second game of his career was against Duke. He had a steal and thunderous dunk late in the game. I was taken back a little by that play; he was built more like a football player, and yet he threw it down like someone who's been in a dunk contest or two.

I guess the thing that gets me, when I look at the population numbers, is Minnesota has more people than the likes of Alabama, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Iowa, among others, states that all have two P6 schools. And Minnesota wasn't even competing with another D1 school, let alone a P6 school. So yeah, if Johnson can retain a healthy amount of those top recruits, I think Minnesota should be just fine.

 

[JimboBBN]

Big Dick Jay laying some information on you scrubs

 

[lurkeraspect84]

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Big Dick Jay laying some information on you scrubs

He's more impressive off the court. Listen to the guy talking about kids "need good examples".