1-18 rank every NCAA championship team in the 2000's

[ThePhog08]

Out of curiosity

#1. 2012 Kentucky. (and KU only lost by single digits whoop whoop) AD is a generational Talent and will end his carrier as the best NBA player of all players from these teams.

#2. 2007 Florida boasted 3 future NBA starters , 2 of which have been all stars

#3. 2008 Kansas 6 players drafted. Only team to win an all 1 seed FF

#4. 2003 Syracuse The first title winner with freshman playing major roles. Carmelo is a future HOFer

#5. 2009 UNC Stacked with NBA role players and dominated the tourney

#6. 2001 Duke Jay Williams, Boozer, Battier wait this may be too low

#7. 2016 Villanova, so tough defensively , they beat the 3 best teams that year outside of themselves KU,OU and UNC

#8. 2005 UNC lots of nba talent and bested the 2nd best team in the title game

#9. 2002 Maryland - May be too high. Solid balanced team

#10. 2004 Uconn - Okafor and Ben were such a great duo, had decent nba runs

#11. 2000 MSU. Mateen Cleaves and co were so tough

#12. 2017 UNC Beat 3 of the best teams Oregon, UK and Gonzaga

#13. 2015 Duke, avoided some teams better including UK. Not much strong nba talent

#14. 2013 Louisville Siva and co were the best all year in a down year.

#15. 2006 Florida Not much competition in the FF

#16. 2010 Duke balance team, so superstar or good nba players

#17. 2011 Uconn Maybe too low. Kemba was dynamite

#18. 2014 Uconn Would think most agree here.

This is the best list I know.

 

[schoonerwest]

Syracuse way too high. I’d put them in the bottom 5.

 

[WojoRising]

Out of curiosity

#1. 2012 Kentucky. (and KU only lost by single digits whoop whoop)
#2. 2007 Florida
#3. 2008 Kansas
#4. 2003 Syracuse
#4. 2009 UNC
#5. 2001 Duke
#6. 2016 Villanova
#7. 2005 UNC
#8. 2002 Maryland
#9. 2004 Uconn
#10. 2000 MSU
#11. 2017 UNC
#12. 2015 Duke
#13. 2013 Louisville
#14. 2006 Florida
#15. 2010 Duke
#16. 2011 Uconn
#17. 2014 Uconn

This is the best list I know.

Wat

 

[ThePhog08]

Wat

I just remember Sean Mays big booty dominating everyone.

 

[WojoRising]

I just remember Sean Mays big booty dominating everyone.

Yeah, they should be way higher. At the very, very least better than Cuse and Nova. I mean, really?

 

[schoonerwest]

2001 Duke
2005 North Carolina
2007 Florida
2008 Kansas
2009 North Carolina
2012 Kentucky

I think these 6 teams should be 1-6 in any order.

 

[ThePhog08]

2001 Duke
2005 North Carolina
2007 Florida
2008 Kansas
2009 North Carolina
2012 Kentucky

I think these 6 teams should be 1-6 in any order.

I wish I could watch the UNC 05 and 09 teams play each other in their prime. 09 would have slightly better outside shooting, but 05 with slightly better post duo.

 

[cooljeff]

I wish I could watch the UNC 05 and 09 teams play each other in their prime. 09 would have slightly better outside shooting, but 05 with slightly better post duo.

can't do that but I set it up on whatifsports....'05 swept them 4-0 and from the scores, this simulation believes Roy's teams play NO D

'05 won: 98-85; 124-80; 117-94; 111-101 those are crazy college basketball scores

 

[JimboBBN]

Out of curiosity

#1. 2012 Kentucky. (and KU only lost by single digits whoop whoop)
#2. 2007 Florida
#3. 2008 Kansas
#4. 2003 Syracuse
#5. 2009 UNC
#6. 2001 Duke
#7. 2016 Villanova
#8. 2005 UNC
#9. 2002 Maryland
#10. 2004 Uconn
#11. 2000 MSU
#12. 2017 UNC
#13. 2015 Duke
#14. 2013 Louisville
#15. 2006 Florida
#16. 2010 Duke
#17. 2011 Uconn
#18. 2014 Uconn

This is the best list I know.

1. Kentucky
2. Kansas
3. UNC 2009
4. Duke 2001
5. Florida 2007
6. UNC 2005
7. Michigan State
8. Louisville
9. Duke 2015
10. UConn 2004
11. Nova
12. Cuse
13. Duke 2010
14. Florida 2006
15. UNC 2017
16. Maryland
17. UConn 2011
18. UConn 2014

Agree about 1 - 6, any of those teams have claims for number 1.

 

[ThePhog08]

can't do that but I set it up on whatifsports....'05 swept them 4-0 and from the scores, this simulation believes Roy's teams play NO D

'05 won: 98-85; 124-80; 117-94; 111-101 those are crazy college basketball scores

Sean May would score at will on Hansbrough. Deon couldn't touch Marvin Williams. I would take Green and Ellington over McCants and Jawad. Felton and Lawson were a wash.

 

[bignish]

1. 2001 Duke (JayWill, Boozer, Battier, Dunleavy, Duhon)
2. 2005 UNC (Felton, May, McCants, Marvin Williams, Noel)
3. 2009 UNC (Lawson, Green, Ellington, Hansbrough, Deon T)
4. 2008 KU (Chalmers, Sasha Kaun, Collins, Rush, Robinson)
5. 2007 Florida (Horford, Noah, Brewer, Taurean Green, Lee Humphrey)
6. 2012 Kentucky (Teague, Lamb, MKG, TJones, Anthony Davis)

I'm too lazy to do the rest but these were clearly the 6 best and most talented championship squads in this century.

 

[ThePhog08]

1. 2001 Duke (JayWill, Boozer, Battier, Dunleavy, Duhon)
2. 2005 UNC (Felton, May, McCants, Marvin Williams, Noel)
3. 2009 UNC (Lawson, Green, Ellington, Hansbrough, Deon T)
4. 2008 KU (Chalmers, Sasha Kaun, Collins, Rush, Robinson)
5. 2007 Florida (Horford, Noah, Brewer, Taurean Green, Lee Humphrey)
6. 2012 Kentucky (Teague, Lamb, MKG, TJones, Anthony Davis)

I'm too lazy to do the rest but these were clearly the 6 best and most talented championship squads in this century.

I see this a lot. 08 KU beat the exact same players on the 09 UNC team. In 09 KU's 08 players were in the NBA. I don't understand the logic.

 

[schoonerwest]

I see this a lot. 08 KU beat the exact same players on the 09 UNC team. In 09 KU's 08 players were in the NBA. I don't understand the logic.

It’s not difficult to assume that they got even better from 2008 to 2009.

 

[ThePhog08]

It’s not difficult to assume that they got even better from 2008 to 2009.

We won't know if Chalmers, Arthur, Rush were better because they were competing on the high level with the best competition in the world. KU beat 2 #1 seeds in the final four. Logic is bad.

 

[Da_Bull]

#14. 2013 Louisville Siva and co were the best all year in a down year.


Wat?

 

[bignish]

We won't know if Chalmers, Arthur, Rush were better because they were competing on the high level with the best competition in the world. KU beat 2 #1 seeds in the final four. Logic is bad.

I don't get it...obviously those KU players would have gotten better too had they stayed in college another year but they didn't so what's your point?

UNC performed like a more dominant team in 2009 than KU did in 2008. Heck, Kansas should have lost to Memphis in the title game if DRose and company didn't choke the game away at the free throw line.

 

[ThePhog08]

I don't get it...obviously those KU players would have gotten better too had they stayed in college another year but they didn't so what's your point?

UNC performed like a more dominant team in 2009 than KU did in 2008. Heck, Kansas should have lost to Memphis in the title game if DRose and company didn't choke the game away at the free throw line.

They performed like a more dominant team because the top players from 08 went to the NBA. Had KU, UCLA, Memphis, Texas USC ect returned the talent, they wouldn't have dominated as much. KU finished 37-3 in 2008 , UNC in 2009 finished 34-4 ... KU was the 4th overall seed not because UNC, Mem and UCLA were better, KU was undervalued and had 6 draft picks.

KU whooped UNC and lef the 2nd half vs memphis until 10 minutes to go until Rose went off and were better in OT. KU was the best team. KU's players were better than UNC's , assuming everyone took equal steps forward than KU would have been better than UNC in 2009. 08 KU can not be held against that their players were good enough to be drafted a year before UNC's.

 

[KUhawks34]

08 Kansas beat 07 Florida and 09 UNC

 

[viviajm]

KU is either number one, two, or tied with UK for number one with number one.
AD was the best player of the year a player that there was no defense for because he had great talent around him. As stated before KU won the only tourney with 44number one seedss

 

[LandofOzDevil]

Out of curiosity

#1. 2012 Kentucky. (and KU only lost by single digits whoop whoop) AD is a generational Talent and will end his carrier as the best NBA player of all players from these teams.

#2. 2007 Florida boasted 3 future NBA starters , 2 of which have been all stars

#3. 2008 Kansas 6 players drafted. Only team to win an all 1 seed FF

#4. 2003 Syracuse The first title winner with freshman playing major roles. Carmelo is a future HOFer

#5. 2009 UNC Stacked with NBA role players and dominated the tourney

#6. 2001 Duke Jay Williams, Boozer, Battier wait this may be too low

#7. 2016 Villanova, so tough defensively , they beat the 3 best teams that year outside of themselves KU,OU and UNC

#8. 2005 UNC lots of nba talent and bested the 2nd best team in the title game

#9. 2002 Maryland - May be too high. Solid balanced team

#10. 2004 Uconn - Okafor and Ben were such a great duo, had decent nba runs

#11. 2000 MSU. Mateen Cleaves and co were so tough

#12. 2017 UNC Beat 3 of the best teams Oregon, UK and Gonzaga

#13. 2015 Duke, avoided some teams better including UK. Not much strong nba talent

#14. 2013 Louisville Siva and co were the best all year in a down year.

#15. 2006 Florida Not much competition in the FF

#16. 2010 Duke balance team, so superstar or good nba players

#17. 2011 Uconn Maybe too low. Kemba was dynamite

#18. 2014 Uconn Would think most agree here.

This is the best list I know.

Where you ranked Duke 01 is criminal. Perhaps you made a mistake?

 

[ABVolsFan92]

I’ve been around for all and 01 Duke and 09 Heels were on another planet

09 heels were just impossible to stop

 

[AWilli6995]

08 Kansas beat 07 Florida and 09 UNC

Why does KU try to claim to beat 2 national champions in separate years? Try winning some nattys and you won’t have reduce yourselves to doing that crazy shit. I have nothing but respect for KU but you guys sound silly and desperate.

 

[Montana81]

1 2007 Florida
2 2012 Kentucky
3 2009 UNC
4 2001 Duke
5 2008 Kansas
6 2002 Maryland
7 2000 Michigan State
8 2004 Uconn
9 2013 UL
10 2005 UNC
11 2015 Duke
12 2006 Florida
13 2003 Syracuse
14 2011 Uconn
15 2010 Duke
16 2016 Nova
17 2014 Uconn
18 2017 UNC

Hmmmm...think I may have let nostalgia effect my rankings. Recent title winners have just seemed really underwhelming.

2016 nova just picked a good time to shoot out of their minds. 2017 UNC had 7 losses as did 2014 Uconn. I don't think Duke was the favorite until the final four that year though they had strong Kenpom numbers. Great guard play and solid role players down low. Maybe underrated them.

Went with Florida over Kentucky because they had better experience and depth. Those two teams were incredibly similar though.

 

[bignish]

They performed like a more dominant team because the top players from 08 went to the NBA. Had KU, UCLA, Memphis, Texas USC ect returned the talent, they wouldn't have dominated as much. KU finished 37-3 in 2008 , UNC in 2009 finished 34-4 ... KU was the 4th overall seed not because UNC, Mem and UCLA were better, KU was undervalued and had 6 draft picks.

KU whooped UNC and lef the 2nd half vs memphis until 10 minutes to go until Rose went off and were better in OT. KU was the best team. KU's players were better than UNC's , assuming everyone took equal steps forward than KU would have been better than UNC in 2009. 08 KU can not be held against that their players were good enough to be drafted a year before UNC's.

This

They performed like a more dominant team because the top players from 08 went to the NBA. Had KU, UCLA, Memphis, Texas USC ect returned the talent, they wouldn't have dominated as much. KU finished 37-3 in 2008 , UNC in 2009 finished 34-4 ... KU was the 4th overall seed not because UNC, Mem and UCLA were better, KU was undervalued and had 6 draft picks.

KU whooped UNC and lef the 2nd half vs memphis until 10 minutes to go until Rose went off and were better in OT. KU was the best team. KU's players were better than UNC's , assuming everyone took equal steps forward than KU would have been better than UNC in 2009. 08 KU can not be held against that their players were good enough to be drafted a year before UNC's.

You do realize we already have the evidence of which team is more talented and it’s UNC 2009 right?

Ty Lawson, Danny Green, Wayne Ellington, Tyler Zeller and Ed Davis are all solid NBA players.

KU, on the other hand, just has Chalmers who’s played meaningful NBA minutes in his career and he’s worse than all 5 of Carolina’s NBA players are/were.

That’s why you can’t assume a similar level of growth the following year between the 2 teams since UNC has more talent.

For example, if Duke and KU played again next year with the same roster you’d agree that Duke would be a heavy favorite right? You’d be playing against sophomore Duval, Bagley, Carter and Trent while only Udoke and Newman have legit upside on KU.

 

[Noahtogo24]

Quick question- think Florida makes the final four in 08 if Brewer, Noah, Horford and Green all return? Granted no Humphrey, but would have a soph Speights and freshman Calathes and Parsons...

 

[schoonerwest]

Quick question- think Florida makes the final four in 08 if Brewer, Noah, Horford and Green all return? Granted no Humphrey, but would have a soph Speights and freshman Calathes and Parsons...

They would’ve been the favorite all year long, IMO.

 

[Noahtogo24]

They would’ve been the favorite all year long, IMO.

Kansas vs them in 08 would have had been great as it was back in 07.

 

[brooklynhawk]

This

You do realize we already have the evidence of which team is more talented and it’s UNC 2009 right?

Ty Lawson, Danny Green, Wayne Ellington, Tyler Zeller and Ed Davis are all solid NBA players.

KU, on the other hand, just has Chalmers who’s played meaningful NBA minutes in his career and he’s worse than all 5 of Carolina’s NBA players are/were.

That’s why you can’t assume a similar level of growth the following year between the 2 teams since UNC has more talent.

For example, if Duke and KU played again next year with the same roster you’d agree that Duke would be a heavy favorite right? You’d be playing against sophomore Duval, Bagley, Carter and Trent while only Udoke and Newman have legit upside on KU.

So we are judging the strength of a college team by how well the players performed later in the NBA? THAT's your evidence? Huh.

All I know is that the KU 2008 team BLEW OUT the very same 2009 team that you seem to think is so strong. At one point the score was 42-12.

 

[anon_0astpxev9h4gk]

#14. 2013 Louisville Siva and co were the best all year in a down year.


Wat?

The rent be free.

 

[AWilli6995]

So we are judging the strength of a college team by how well the players performed later in the NBA? THAT's your evidence? Huh.

All I know is that the KU 2008 team BLEW OUT the very same 2009 team that you seem to think is so strong. At one point the score was 42-12.

That doesn’t mean anything. UNLV blew the doors off Duke in 91, the next year both teams returned thier stars and Duke beat them. The same UNLV team that featured Larry Johnson, Stacy Augmon and Greg Anthony. So your analogy that the 08 KU team would of beat 09 UNC is laughable. Also Ed Davis was freshman in 09 and a key contributor to that title run.

 

[KUhawks34]

Kansas beat Florida and North Carolina. Both on neutral courts.

Can’t believe I’m Using ESPN as a source but they just ranked all the title teams. They ranked All 3 teams back to back in the following order.

Kansas
North Carolina
Florida.

 

[Noahtogo24]

Kansas beat Florida and North Carolina. Both on neutral courts.

Can’t believe I’m Using ESPN as a source but they just ranked all the title teams. They ranked All 3 teams back to back in the following order.

Kansas
North Carolina
Florida.

Disagree with this- just because Kansas beat Florida back in 07 by what 4 points does not make them better- remember Kansas in 07 didn't even make final four.

 

[AWilli6995]

Disagree with this- just because Kansas beat Florida back in 07 by what 4 points does not make them better- remember Kansas in 07 didn't even make final four.

I agree. I thought KU fans were better than this.

 

[KUhawks34]

Disagree with this- just because Kansas beat Florida back in 07 by what 4 points does not make them better- remember Kansas in 07 didn't even make final four.

They barely lost to UCLA in a game UCLA banked in a 40footer in the Elite 8.

All 3 teams are very similar but they did play and Kansas beat both of them and spanmed one of them. You can he your opinion just like I have mine but you can’t dismiss KU fans opinions when once again they did win the games. It’s the only evidence we have regarding the 3 teams other than arbitrary opinions.

 

[Noahtogo24]

They barely lost to UCLA in a game UCLA banked in a 40footer in the Elite 8.

All 3 teams are very similar but they did play and Kansas beat both of them and spanmed one of them. You can he your opinion just like I have mine but you can’t dismiss KU fans opinions when once again they did win the games. It’s the only evidence we have regarding the 3 teams other than arbitrary opinions.

To be fair, saying Kansas lost to UCLA in a close game would be like me saying Florida lost in a close game to Kansas that year. Additionally, didn't Florida have some players sick around that time??

And it does raise a legit question- if Kansas is better than Florida in 07, why didn't they make the final four?

And I'm not dismissing your opnion- just don't dimiss mine if you don't want yours dismiss. Does that mean St Clara was better than UNC in 05 since they beat them?

 

[KisteK]

Ppl who use NBA results as justification for anything NCAA are idiots.

Idiot.

And look at the junior idiots thinking that the Final Four = Best Teams

 

[Noahtogo24]

Ppl who use NBA results as justification for anything NCAA are idiots.

Idiot.

And look at the junior idiots thinking that the Final Four = Best Teams

Ouch calling me an idiot- but I do raise a legit question- if Kansas is better than 07 Florida because they beat them that season, can't you say the same for other teams who beat the champion of each year?

 

[KUhawks34]

To be fair, saying Kansas lost to UCLA in a close game would be like me saying Florida lost in a close game to Kansas that year. Additionally, didn't Florida have some players sick around that time??

And it does raise a legit question- if Kansas is better than Florida in 07, why didn't they make the final four?

And I'm not dismissing your opnion- just don't dimiss mine if you don't want yours dismiss. Does that mean St Clara was better than UNC in 05 since they beat them?

You are comparing other teams results instead of head to head. You brought up Kansas didn’t make a FF in 07. They lost to an incredible UCLA team.

The best team doesn’t always win.

I personally would rank them Kansas, Florida, UNC.

 

[Noahtogo24]

You are comparing other teams results instead of head to head. You brought up Kansas didn’t make a FF in 07. They lost to an incredible UCLA team.

The best team doesn’t always win.

I personally would rank them Kansas, Florida, UNC.

I agree the best team does not always win- like to be fair people could say in 08 if Chalmers does not hit that shot.

And that UCLA team was great in 07- but didn't Florida beat them by double digits...

Also back to my previous question- does that mean teams who beat the champion that year is better- like Vandy over Kentucky back in 2012?

Personally I would rank them UNC, Florida , Kansas.

 

[KUhawks34]

I agree the best team does not always win- like to be fair people could say in 08 if Chalmers does not hit that shot.

Also back to my previous question- does that mean teams who beat the champion that year is better- like Vandy over Kentucky back in 2012?

Personally I would rank them UNC, Florida , Kansas.

The difference is you are talking about Kansas-UCLA..... iM talking about Kansas Florida which are 2 teams in the argument. UCLA is not.

I’m fine with ranking Florida over Kansas but UNC over Kansas makes no sense.