Would Dabo leave Clemson for Alabama?

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  1. stronghammer

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    Brutal competition in the SEC these days, LOL
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    Dabo probably won’t leave Clemson until he beats Saban’s record for National Championships, making him the best of all time. Sabin, on the other hand, my leave in 2020 if Dabo gives him another ass whippin.
     
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    I seriously doubt it. Who has the balls to follow Saban?
     
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    Great dream! A long, long, long way from 2 nattys to 7. Keep dreaming though. We all need dreams.
     
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    You do know Saban and Dabo are 2-2, correct?
     
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    Nick Saban got beaten badly in the last championship game, he’s 67 years old (will be 68 midway through the 2019 season), and he just had hip replacement surgery. He’ll be 69 during the 2020 season. If he gets blown out again there will be plenty of Alabama fans clamoring for him to step down. Alabama is not going to fire him, but he may be ready to go at that time, especially if he’s looking at 70 with 2 blowout losses in the playoffs. I’m not saying it’s going to happen (another blowout) but if it does, I could easily see Saban stepping down.
     
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    Well, we do have TL for 2 more years.
     
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    This guy ?
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    If he gets blown out again? If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle!
     
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    So that guarantees you two more nattys? jumpingsmile Even if so, no matter how unlikely, he would still need 3 more. Like I said, everyone needs a dream.
     
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    That aint Dabo. lol
     
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    Have you seen what first time , highly sought after first time coaches are making ? Someone will offer him 4.5 M / yr you can bet on that... some deep pockets around these days.

    Auburn , possibly FSU if willie doesn’t get it together , several more after the 2019 season we aren’t even talking about
     
  13. MKOTiger

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    Do you have an aunt with balls? Because the last time I looked Alabama actually got their doors blown off by Clemson in the NCG, or maybe you forgot. And Clemson could have made it a lot worse by not running the time off the clock in the 4th. Lets also not forget that it was 1st and goal on the 5 yard line when Dabo graciously chose not to put 1/2 century on Sabin. And if we’ve done it once, we can certainly do it again.
     
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    That’s ok. Dabo’s only 49. We have plenty of time.
     
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    Yea he makes over 2 million now. Doubt he starts at 6
     
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    It's one game! Sorry to burst that bubble. I am encouraging you to dream. Worst that can happen is your are completely destroyed if they don't win another one.
     
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    His age guarantees more championships? Now that's funny!
     
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    Well, Clemson has won 2 out of the last 3 and the last game was a blowout. It’s not beyond the realm of imagination (except for a yellowhammer homer) that it could happen again.
     
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    It means he has a lot more opportunities left than Saban does. It’s a pretty simple concept to understand.
     
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    I never said they couldn't win more only that thinking Dabo is going to win seven is a stretch. I know you boys aren't used to this type of success so it's hilarious to watch you get so far ahead of yourself.
     
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    A lot of coaches younger than Dabo. With your logic, whatever record Dabo ends up with, one of these younger coaches, that will have more opportunities, will break his record.
     
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    I think there is only one coach, older or younger, that has won national championships 2 out of the last 3 years. It’s not just opportunities. It takes ability also and I think Dabo has proven he has it, but that’s me.
     
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    I never said Dabo will win seven in a stretch. That’s a little optimistic, and I don’t think Saban will either. But I do believe Dabo has time to win plenty more. Remind me, how old was Saban when he won his first?
     
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    Urban Meyer two in 3 years by the time he was 44

    Barry Switzerland two in 3 years by the time he was 38

    Dennis Erickson two in 3 years by the time he was 44

    John McKay two by the time he was 44

    What Dabo has done, til this point, has been done by others at an earlier age.
     
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    I like Dabo and think he is a fine person and an outstanding coach but your expectations are really out there!
     
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    I said the last 2 out of 3. Also, how many of those coaches have beaten the “best team ever!” Plus, less politics now. You get to the playoffs and win, you can be champs. Before, you had to win style points with AP.
     
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    If you believe that Bama team was that great you haven't been watching football very long. Probably Bama's worst defense in a decade.
     
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    I disagree. I think our coach wants the SEC to envy his prowess. And they do.
    He’s cut every ass of any worth in the SEC.
     
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    Funny how the narrative changed after they got their asses kicked.
     
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    The narrative did not change among Alabama fans with regard to the defense. By November, and with many of us several games before that month, Alabama's defense had shown itself to be decidedly inferior to Coach Saban's other Alabama defenses. Statistically, the 2018 Alabama defense was Coach Saban's worst since 2007, Saban's first and worst season at Alabama. Alabama fans who are knowledgeable about Alabama's title teams, and many of us are, knew the 2018 defense was a problem. So no, the narrative about that defense did not change for Alabama fans. We knew for months during 2018 it was sub par.

    Alabama fans know the Crimson Tide wins titles with elite defenses. In 1978, Alabama won the title with a goal line stand and 7 sacks (or was it 9?), holding #1 Penn State to 19 rushing yards in a 14-7 Alabama defensive triumph. In 1979, Alabama surrendered only 67 points over 12 games, for an average of only 5.5 ppg, in winning Coach Bryant's last national championship.

    In 1992, Alabama led the nation in rush defense, total defense, and scoring defense, and was #2 nationally in pass defense, in winning the national title under Gene Stallings. Again, it was an elite defense that won Alabama its title that season.

    Even if you review Alabama's title teams of the 60s, all three had elite defenses. The 1961 national championship team--the best of the three--surrendered only 25 points on the entire season and posted 6 shutouts, including 5 shutouts in a row.

    Under Saban, Alabama's 2009 title team was #2 in total defense; in 2011, Alabama's historic national championship defense was #1 in rush, pass, total, and scoring defense; in 2012, Alabama's national championship team was #1 in total defense, #1 in rushing, and #1 in scoring defense; in 2015, Alabama's national championship team was #1 in rush defense and in the top 3 in scoring and total defense; and in 2017, Alabama's national championship team was #1 in scoring, rushing, and total defense.

    But 2018 Alabama's defense was #12 in scoring defense, #16 in total defense, #19 in rushing defense, and #33 in passing defense. Compare those rankings with Coach Saban's other Alabama national title teams. It simply does not compare well at all.

    As in 1973, Alabama needed a prolific offense to overcome its defensive deficiencies. And just like in 1973, another team with a prolific offense, it encountered one team it could not overcome. The 2018 Alabama team was a powerful offensive team and likely Alabama's best offense ever, but championships are won with defense at Alabama.

    So we Alabama fans knew this 2018 team had serious problems defensively, but we hoped its offense would overcome those deficiencies. Clemson's 4 NFL D linemen, 3 of them 1st round NFL draft picks, were too much for Alabama's offense to overcome, and Alabama's weak defense finally gave up too many points for the offense to overcome. That is and was the narrative among those of us who know Alabama football. Clemson was the better team, and an historically talented and great team at that.

    In the 1960s, only Alabama won consecutive titles. In the 70s, Texas (69 and 70), Alabama, and Oklahoma managed to win consecutive titles. In the 80s, no team could accomplish consecutive titles. In the 90s, only Nebraska could manage consecutive titles. In the 00s, only USC could. In the 10s, only Alabama has managed consecutive titles. In sum, with one exception, only 1 team manages repeat titles every decade. Since 1960, Alabama has done that 3 times. No other team has accomplished such more than once since 1960. Clemson is about to discover how difficult it is to repeat as champions. Good luck.
     
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    In 1975, Barry Switzer had won 2 of the last 3 national titles. He was 38.
    In 1991, Dennis Erickson had won 2 of the last 3 national titles. He was 44.
    In 2008, Urban Meyer had won 2 of the last 3 national titles. He was 44.
    In 1970, Darrell Royal had won 2 of the last 3 national titles. He was 46.
    In 2004, Pete Carroll had won 2 of the last 3 national titles. He was 53.
    In 1949, Frank Leahy had won 3 of the last 4 national titles. He was 41.
    In 1965, Paul Bryant had won 3 of the last 5 national titles. He was 52.

    Dabo's a great coach, and he's an Alabama man so we Alabama fans like him very much. But he's not the first coach to win 2 titles in 3 years and he's not the youngest to do so.

    Finally, many have beaten the prematurely announced "best team ever" to win a title. Two that immediately come to mind are Miami's win over undefeated 1983 Nebraska, and Texas' win over undefeated 2005 USC. Quite a few said exactly the same about undefeated 2011 LSU for that matter.
     
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    We also need to see if some other ACC teams can step up and challenge Clemson.
     
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    Can't see any ACC challenge for the next 2, maybe the next 3, seasons. Dabo's got the best path for titles for at least 2 seasons if not 3. But it is difficult to repeat. He's in the catbird seat, but the pressure builds with every week and every game of the season. His fate will likely be determined in the playoffs because Clemson is almost a lock for the playoffs for a few years to come.
     
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    Oh yeah for sure, the ACC is Clemson to lose but can FSU, Miami or VT get something going in 3-4 yrs?
     
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    Gonna be hard to fire Gus after 15-0 in 2019....
     
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    Cam coming back?
     
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    Actually, we’ve had 3 unbeaten seasons since 1993 (most in the nation) and Cam was only on one. What is UGA’s excuse? :)
     
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    Oh, we have plenty of excuses...;)

    But let's stick to 2019.
     
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    The narrative never changed you just weren't paying attention. Many said this was their best offensive team not their best team. The game against Clemson just validated the old saying a great defense is better than a great offense.
     
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    Isn’t Bama like 26-2 vs SEC in the last 4 years? Sounds like they could use some competition too.
     

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