Will Gonzaga and/or Baylor's season be considered a failure...
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UK doesn't stand a chance so I'm putting my lunch money on Iowa. They have the tools.
If there is a year for either of them(and several other schools) this is it.
No elite blue blood
A fanless(I assume) tournament where the underdog doesn't get the crowd behind them
Difficulty getting into the flow of the season due to all of the constraints
They were very good teams to start the year, most of the other schools don't have the opportunity to experience real growth this year
No elite blue blood
A fanless(I assume) tournament where the underdog doesn't get the crowd behind them
Difficulty getting into the flow of the season due to all of the constraints
They were very good teams to start the year, most of the other schools don't have the opportunity to experience real growth this year
They can’t both win. I’ll say if they meet in the title it will be a successful season for both, regardless who wins.
Either fail to make the FF and it’s a total failure imo.
I don’t buy this. There were teams who were supposed to be good, (ie ranked high preseason) and got exposed. And while I understand the problems associated with covid, what better opportunities to experience real growth could there be than playing in live action games.
I just think Gonzaga and Baylor are head and shoulders above everyone else and would be if covid has been cured before the offseason.
I strongly believe both teams would be ranked 1-2 even without Covid.
For Gonzaga, it’s all about beating that National Narrative that they can’t win it all. I think they have to win the title or else it is a failure.
For Gonzaga, it’s all about beating that National Narrative that they can’t win it all. I think they have to win the title or else it is a failure.
I'm not using that to suggest that they wouldn't be the best teams in a normal year. But I do think there are less threats due to the way the teams are impacted by the unorthodox season.
It would be hard for me to consider what each has accomplished as a failure, even if they don’t raise the trophy. I would however consider it a missed opportunity, and the kind that haunts the fanbase’s memories for decades to come.
Scott Drew has two Elite 8 appearances. Mark Few has three. One combined Final Four between the two coaches. They both really need to make the Final Four, at the bare minimum. After that, I can't completely fault a coach or team for not winning two straight games over potentially top 5 opponents.
This, a final four appearance is what can be reasonably expected of any favorite. To expect a team to win it all is honestly not very fair, as it’s extremely hard to win 6 in a row in March.
The fans will expect natty’s though and very likely neither wins it all. That’s just how it goes in March.
Very hard to win six in a row. It really isn't a fair expectation.
In a typical year, you could take the top three teams in college basketball, and yet the field would have slightly better odds at winning the national title. However, that doesn't appear to be the case this year. ESPN's BPI has the odds of Baylor/Gonzaga winning it all at 51%. TeamRankings has those odds at 53%. Certainly not a definite, but this is one year where you could feel semi-confident about picking Baylor or Gonzaga.
It'll be really hard on the Gonzaga fanbase. They've been looking forward to this team winning it all since 2019. And they are already talking about going back to back next year as well. It certainly sounds a bit much but they will still return a lot next year and will bring in the #1 and #6 overall recruit this year. It could happen.
I’d change slightly into significantly, but agreed with your points in general. I am not as confident in the zags or Baylor honestly. I’d still definitely take the field (assuming all games are played and teams don’t drop out).
The WVU game against Gonzaga always sticks out to me. Ya GU would have won by more if Suggs didn't miss half the game, but WVU absolutely won down low. Teams that can muck it up, rack up a lot of fouls, and get offensive boards are the teams that scare me. Dominant Offenses don't necessarily scare me because I believe that GU's offense is still more dominant than theirs (Iowa game for example).
Lol gotta win the first before you can go back to back. I dunno man neither Gonzaga nor Baylor appear to me as “unbeatable”. I think if the tourney happens as planned it will be wild with upsets. The reg season just doesn’t seem to be taken as seriously this year by most, seems like the focus isn’t all there, but come tourney time...
Cough cough FSU. A nightmare matchup in the tourney for just about anyone IMO.
We’re 1-1 vs Zags in the tourney last few years. NCAA likes to put both in the same bracket. Bumper match this year? IMO Michigan is one of those tough match ups.
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