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Who Wins the ACC?

Who will win the ACC Regular Season Title in 2021?

  • Clemson

    Votes: 7 5.0%
  • Duke

    Votes: 5 3.5%
  • Florida State

    Votes: 64 45.4%
  • Louisville

    Votes: 14 9.9%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 7 5.0%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 37 26.2%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 3.5%

  • Total voters
    141
MJ said he’s going to give him some smack about missing that in his post-game interview. MJ said about Calhoun, “He does crazy things like that.” Lol

He’s kind of like a big kid. Super late bloomer. He wrote letters to local schools begging them to let him walk on. None wanted him. So he went juco, grew like 3 inches, hit the weights hard, and boom.

Next year he will be a nightmare.
 
sorry bro’s offensively challenged. 50 pts in 40 mins smdh pitiful. Luckily I don’t get accN extra+ or whatever so I didn’t have to sit thru that root canal.

But apparently Clemson figured out to beat us is really simple, stop/double carlik. Our offense is basically him getting a pick and then everyone standing around watching.
 
sorry bro’s offensively challenged. 50 pts in 40 mins smdh pitiful. Luckily I don’t get accN extra+ or whatever so I didn’t have to sit thru that root canal.

But apparently Clemson figured out to beat us is really simple, stop/double carlik. Our offense is basically him getting a pick and then everyone standing around watching.
If you have cable/sat/youtubetv etc, you can watch ACCN extra on WatchESPN site/app.
 
If you have cable/sat/youtubetv etc, you can watch ACCN extra on WatchESPN site/app.

I have dish. I live in the boonies. Cable isn’t even an option. Growing up down the road we had a 20 ft antenna on my parents house so we could watch abc, nbc, cbs, pbs, and fox. Drive a mile past my house to the south and the people down there don’t even get cell service.

I did used to have the internet here at my house but decided it was a waste of money to pay 50$+ a month just to watch porn when I can do it in the phone for free.

Granted that was 8 years or so ago before all the streaming stuff really took off.
 
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I have dish. I live in the boonies. Cable isn’t even an option. Growing up down the road we had a 20 ft antenna on my parents house so we could watch abc, nbc, cbs, pbs, and fox. Drive a mile past my house to the south and the people down there don’t even get cell service.

I did used to have the internet here at my house but decided it was a waste of money to pay 50$+ a month just to watch porn when I can do it in the phone for free.

Granted that was 8 years or so ago before all the streaming stuff really took off.
If you have DISH, you should be able to get all the games WatchESPN app/site.

Just trying to help.
 
Thanks but I don’t have the internet either, so I can’t access all the on demand and streaming stuff dish provides.

Got dvr tho 😂
I don't own a cell phone and live in a 5g area. To each their own. :D

BTW, just how deep in the hollars are you? My mom is pretty deep but she still has internet.
 
Oh u must have missed part of my previous post. I can get internet. I actually used to have it like 8-9 years ago when I first moved into my house. But this was before espn+ and all the streaming stuff had really took off.

I just decided it was a waste of money to pay 50$ a month just to look at redtube when I can do it on my phone.
 
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Oh u must have missed part of my previous post. I can get internet. I actually used to have it like 8-9 years ago when I first moved into my house. But this was before espn+ and all the streaming stuff had really took off.

I just decided it was a waste of money to pay 50$ a month just to look at redtube when I can do it on my phone.
I have internet but no tv. I sign up for youtubetv during college football/basketball seasons and cancel i right afterwards.

there's a handful of posters here that has watched games under my YouTV account.
 
Technically I have a cell phone. I use it for porn and sports on wifi. I keep it in a desk drawer at work.

You sir have a man crush in wky. Uk affiliation be damned.

Do you have a house phone or wife with a phone, or do you just not fk with anyone much outside of work.
 
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You sir have a man crush in wky. Uk affiliation be damned.

Do you have a house phone or wife with a phone, or do you just not fk with anyone much outside of work.
Wife has one of course, and I just have skype number since 2006. When I'm one of my two computers you can reach me anytime.

I also carry a very small keychain and wallet.Not a fan of carrying shit.
 
Wife has one of course, and I just have skype number since 2006. When I'm one of my two computers you can reach me anytime.

I also carry a very small keychain and wallet.Not a fan of carrying shit.

Kindred spirits. Phone keys wallet, all I need. I’m even so bad I always donate my change at the store to whatever little bucket they have raising money bc I hate walking around with change in my pocket lol.

I’m single and work on a farm so I kinda need a cell, esp if I’m having tractor trouble 5 miles from the house and need a ride or even moving around equipment would be hell without a phone.
 
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Kindred spirits. Phone keys wallet, all I need. I’m even so bad I always donate my change at the store to whatever little bucket they have raising money bc I hate walking around with change in my pocket lol.

I’m single and work on a farm so I kinda need a cell, esp if I’m having tractor trouble 5 miles from the house and need a ride or even moving around equipment would be hell without a phone.
I understand farmers having one.I'm in a concrete jungle so everyone is around all the time. *insert offspring gotta get away* song link, I'm not anti or whatever, but it's kind of the same path of why I don't wear a watch.

I show up do work, go home. 30 min gap on me not getting any messages or calls.

If I'm out and away, then I'm out and away. Same way i've always been prior to cell phones.

"wat about emergencies". Get bent. Not paying 50-100/mo for just in case. We have AAA for that.
 
Love it. I like this board, and redtube of course, but I absolutely loathe all types of social media. I have friends that are like robots when u are around them, scrolling FB looking at stupid ish, drives me crazy

But I will say cell phones have an unquantifiable value in emergency situations.
 
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It’s been a fun time to be an FSU fan for sure.

And the last loss was a buzzer beater 3 by Cam Reddish after we had two guys go after the defensive rebound and knock it out of bounds. Really it could be 30+ games already.

I think Zion leaving the game early, up by 5, is a bigger footnote than this.
 
So how do FSU fans feel about playing Texas in a potential 2 v 3 matchup in the Sweet 16? Would love to see the back-and-forth between you guys and Sheriff.
 
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So how do FSU fans feel about playing Texas in a potential 2 v 3 matchup in the Sweet 16? Would love to see the back-and-forth between you guys and Sheriff.
Not going to turn down a sweet 16 game against anyone. Should be a fantastic matchup if it comes to fruition.

The problem I have with Sheriff is that seemingly, every member of the media that covers this sport knows how good we are, but in his seemingly expert opinion, we are small change. He has some kind of matrix architect complex where he knows everything, ergo he is an @ss and people here all see it. I'm just glad we're having a season to be honest, but I fully expect that we are going to have more growth between now and the tournament, which should make everyone else worried about how that team could look. Not anointing us as champs by any means, but our flaws are not too bad due to our versatility and ability to modify our lineup depending on the opponents strategy.
 
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Not going to turn down a sweet 16 game against anyone. Should be a fantastic matchup if it comes to fruition.

The problem I have with Sheriff is that seemingly, every member of the media that covers this sport knows how good we are, but in his seemingly expert opinion, we are small change. He has some kind of matrix architect complex where he knows everything, ergo he is an @ss and people here all see it. I'm just glad we're having a season to be honest, but I fully expect that we are going to have more growth between now and the tournament, which should make everyone else worried about how that team could look. Not anointing us as champs by any means, but our flaws are not too bad due to our versatility and ability to modify our lineup depending on the opponents strategy.

Haha yeah. Sheriff is interesting. He isn't completely clueless; he has a reasonable knowledge of the game, from what I can tell. But, he asserts his opinions as facts, and often dismisses what is almost universally regarded as true or probable.

I don't know how Ham does it, honestly. He has seemingly limitless permutations of lineups he can plug onto the floor. Effectively working 10+ guys in a system year after year is not easy. I mean, it takes a heck of a lot more preparation and time to develop plays for all those guys - and to get them all to work cohesively as one unit. I see a lot of schools try the 10-man rotation, and it seems like players often struggle to stay in sync with irregular minutes. It's obviously working for Ham, however. So no reason to stop. The Noles are looking really strong - and it feels like you guys are knocking on the door of a Final Four. If not this year, perhaps next season. Still would love to see a FSU-Texas matchup. Would be fantastic.
 
Haha yeah. Sheriff is interesting. He isn't completely clueless; he has a reasonable knowledge of the game, from what I can tell. But, he asserts his opinions as facts, and often dismisses what is almost universally regarded as true or probable.

I don't know how Ham does it, honestly. He has seemingly limitless permutations of lineups he can plug onto the floor. Effectively working 10+ guys in a system year after year is not easy. I mean, it takes a heck of a lot more preparation and time to develop plays for all those guys - and to get them all to work cohesively as one unit. I see a lot of schools try the 10-man rotation, and it seems like players often struggle to stay in sync with irregular minutes. It's obviously working for Ham, however. So no reason to stop. The Noles are looking really strong - and it feels like you guys are knocking on the door of a Final Four. If not this year, perhaps next season. Still would love to see a FSU-Texas matchup. Would be fantastic.

My problem is despite his knowledge of the game he says the stupidest imaginable things ie “coaching doesn’t matter” (then point out how lon Kruger is a great offensive coach to defend Texas loss to OU in a different thread) or “nothing random ever happens is March” or “athleticism is the only thing that matters and big 12 has superior athletes” and when flat out proven wrong instead of saying good point or argues back he either just double downs or he just changes the subject off on something else instead of debating The topic at hand. He just refuses to admit he is wrong which is the worst kind of arrogance imo.

And everyone is wrong every now and agai, no ones perfect. Hell ive been proven wrong on here more times than I can remember.
 
I think Zion leaving the game early, up by 5, is a bigger footnote than this.

I honestly don’t know if I agree or disagree. It certainly changed the “who” in terms of who was stepping up and making plays. But I’m not sure it was all that relevant in the outcome.

Both teams had to adjust game plans. Both teams were given half time to do so. But as is often the case with super stars, when Zion was in the game sometimes guys like Reddish and Barrett just sort of became bystanders.

Duke wasn’t a great shooting team from the perimeter that year. Actually a poor shooting team. But Zion leaving forced Reddish to be aggressive and step up his game. He had one of his best performances of the year. If Zion doesn’t get hurt, FSU could have possibly just out-shot Duke in the second half.
 
I honestly don’t know if I agree or disagree. It certainly changed the “who” in terms of who was stepping up and making plays. But I’m not sure it was all that relevant in the outcome.

Both teams had to adjust game plans. Both teams were given half time to do so. But as is often the case with super stars, when Zion was in the game sometimes guys like Reddish and Barrett just sort of became bystanders.

Duke wasn’t a great shooting team from the perimeter that year. Actually a poor shooting team. But Zion leaving forced Reddish to be aggressive and step up his game. He had one of his best performances of the year. If Zion doesn’t get hurt, FSU could have possibly just out-shot Duke in the second half.

I get what you're saying. Guys step up when Zion is out, perhaps better ball movement, too. My point, was that Zion missing the entire second half is a much bigger footnote than a missed rebound opportunity, which was even contested by Jack White.

Duke was 3-3 in the absence of Zion, so hard for me to believe we improved our odds with him out of the lineup. He's noted for his offensive efficiency. But, was also really good at jumping passing lanes and protecting the paint. He was 2nd in the ACC in defensive win shares, despite missing 6 ACC games. And he was #1 in the nation in Box Minus/Plus, and by a large margin, too. Losing Zion for an extended period of time is a massive deal.
 
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My problem is despite his knowledge of the game he says the stupidest imaginable things ie “coaching doesn’t matter” (then point out how lon Kruger is a great offensive coach to defend Texas loss to OU in a different thread) or “nothing random ever happens is March” or “athleticism is the only thing that matters and big 12 has superior athletes” and when flat out proven wrong instead of saying good point or argues back he either just double downs or he just changes the subject off on something else instead of debating The topic at hand. He just refuses to admit he is wrong which is the worst kind of arrogance imo.

And everyone is wrong every now and agai, no ones perfect. Hell ive been proven wrong on here more times than I can remember.

Hahah yes! The inconsistencies in his arguments are laughable. Constantly changing the goal post for what the standard of truth is. He'll argue with you and take the counterpoint, when he's previously held the exact opposite position.
 
Haha yeah. Sheriff is interesting. He isn't completely clueless; he has a reasonable knowledge of the game, from what I can tell. But, he asserts his opinions as facts, and often dismisses what is almost universally regarded as true or probable.

I don't know how Ham does it, honestly. He has seemingly limitless permutations of lineups he can plug onto the floor. Effectively working 10+ guys in a system year after year is not easy. I mean, it takes a heck of a lot more preparation and time to develop plays for all those guys - and to get them all to work cohesively as one unit. I see a lot of schools try the 10-man rotation, and it seems like players often struggle to stay in sync with irregular minutes. It's obviously working for Ham, however. So no reason to stop. The Noles are looking really strong - and it feels like you guys are knocking on the door of a Final Four. If not this year, perhaps next season. Still would love to see a FSU-Texas matchup. Would be fantastic.
Yeah, it is super unique. We have been blessed to have enough continuity over the last 4 years where it has worked. We actually may be in for a bit of trouble this year if somehow Balsa and Gray work themselves into the 1st round. I felt like they were going to be anchors for us next year to go along with Polite and Osborne so that we could bring in the highly touted players and have less growing pains. I'm still not sure they will do that, but if we make a deep run and they are a big part of it, their stock could grow substantially. MJ as our alpha this year has been really pleasant to see, his teammates have always respected him, but to see his performance on a game by game basis, I'm just happy for a guy that came here with a ton of accolades but won't leave with the individual honors he may have been able to achieve elsewhere. I would be really sad if he didn't make at minimum 2nd team All-ACC this year. I think he has shown enough to merit first team but we don't always get the benefit of the voting being so far south away from the bulk of the voters.
 
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Have service, just no phone connected to it. Also Platinum AAA member since 2006.

So you have a cell phone with no service, and service with no phone attached?

How do you contact AAA if you're stranded somewhere with no business nearby? Do you carry quarters instead?
 
Yeah, it is super unique. We have been blessed to have enough continuity over the last 4 years where it has worked. We actually may be in for a bit of trouble this year if somehow Balsa and Gray work themselves into the 1st round. I felt like they were going to be anchors for us next year to go along with Polite and Osborne so that we could bring in the highly touted players and have less growing pains. I'm still not sure they will do that, but if we make a deep run and they are a big part of it, their stock could grow substantially. MJ as our alpha this year has been really pleasant to see, his teammates have always respected him, but to see his performance on a game by game basis, I'm just happy for a guy that came here with a ton of accolades but won't leave with the individual honors he may have been able to achieve elsewhere. I would be really sad if he didn't make at minimum 2nd team All-ACC this year. I think he has shown enough to merit first team but we don't always get the benefit of the voting being so far south away from the bulk of the voters.

If FSU wins the ACC, Walker should definitely be on the 1st Team. He has an argument, regardless if FSU wins outright. I think Champagnie, Hurt, and Carlik Jones probably make 1st Team. Maybe throw in one UVA player, Hauser or Huff. And then the final spot might be between Walker and Alvarado. Guerrier/Griffin, Aluma, and maybe 1-2 others have an outside shot, too.

Are there talks of Gray and Balsa going in the first round? I always assumed they'd be back. Gotta love Gray's versatility and Balsa's efficiency. Haven't looked on a lot of draft boards recently, but don't think I've seen their names pop up.
 
So you have a cell phone with no service, and service with no phone attached?

How do you contact AAA if you're stranded somewhere with no business nearby? Do you carry quarters instead?
Wife has AAA and a cell phone, I change my own tires.

And yes, I have an Iphone in my desk that i use on the shitter at work using their wifi.

I'm pretty simple.

I pay 60 a year to skype for a local number, and ability to call anywhere. I just don't need it.
 
If FSU wins the ACC, Walker should definitely be on the 1st Team. He has an argument, regardless if FSU wins outright. I think Champagnie, Hurt, and Carlik Jones probably make 1st Team. Maybe throw in one UVA player, Hauser or Huff. And then the final spot might be between Walker and Alvarado. Guerrier/Griffin, Aluma, and maybe 1-2 others have an outside shot, too.

Are there talks of Gray and Balsa going in the first round? I always assumed they'd be back. Gotta love Gray's versatility and Balsa's efficiency. Haven't looked on a lot of draft boards recently, but don't think I've seen their names pop up.
I've heard that Gray's stock has gotten much better but I haven't seen anything in print. But we've not even played half the season yet if you count the post season, so there is time for it to get better for both of them. I think that both could gain consistency shooting the ball outside, if they came back next year. Fingers are crossed that we get both of them back but if they are legit going first round then I'm not going to sulk about it
 
If FSU wins the ACC, Walker should definitely be on the 1st Team. He has an argument, regardless if FSU wins outright. I think Champagnie, Hurt, and Carlik Jones probably make 1st Team. Maybe throw in one UVA player, Hauser or Huff. And then the final spot might be between Walker and Alvarado. Guerrier/Griffin, Aluma, and maybe 1-2 others have an outside shot, too.

Are there talks of Gray and Balsa going in the first round? I always assumed they'd be back. Gotta love Gray's versatility and Balsa's efficiency. Haven't looked on a lot of draft boards recently, but don't think I've seen their names pop up.

Don’t see it with Balsa. Gray maybe. Wish all the Draymond Green comparisons would go away. Shhhhsh
 
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