Okay, but if Louisville was not caught on wire taps and there was no proof or chatter out about Louisville paying players, would you just throw your hands in the air and admit guilt?
There's no doubt there is illegal crap going on all over the place, but excuse me for not being interested in calling my school and/or coaches cheaters when there is not a single thing out there that would indicate such a thing.
I've never been behind the scenes of a big-time college sports program and I'm betting very few on this forum have been/are either. So you running around telling everyone they’re heads are in the sand, seems kinda fvcked up don't you think?
These discussions keep coming up and so many of you that are fans of schools that have been caught, keep telling the rest of us that our heads are in the sand, when there's nothing out there that indicates our schools have done anything.
It's like me calling you a meth dealer simply because there are thousands of meth dealers out there, so odds are, you're a meth dealer. I have nothing that tells me you're a meth dealer, but I'm going to accuse you of it anyway.
So, you tell me, what are we supposed to be accusing our schools and coaches of doing? Are we supposed to just accuse our own schools of paying players, simply because you say it's happening? Tell us what you want us to do. Seems silly, but I'll play along.
I can tell you this, John Calipari can't take a damn leak in the woods without someone watching every move he makes. If you think he could get away with cheating for this long, you're nuts. Pete Thamel has been trying to catch Calipari for 15 years and he isn't the only one.
Yes even if Louisville wasn’t named in the fbi sting I would still find it hard to believe that we weren’t doing the same things that have been going on since the 70s and probably before that. So many people act like paying players began when the fbi stepped in, when it’s been going on for half a century. Before the FBI sting, then no I would not have thought Louisville was cheating just based on the average level of recruits we signed.
Also when an ex Nike executive says on a wire (which he didn’t know it was being recorded) that that’s how unc, duke, Cuse, and UK do it too, I tend to believe him bc I don’t see what he had to gain by lying.
And to me it’s just common sense that when fairly irrelevant programs like DePaul and Oklahoma State and creighton are paying players, that most everyone is doing it in some form or fashion, or DePaul and creighton and Oklahoma State would be much more relevant nation wide.
I also look at the schools that recruits have on their list. How many kids have chosen duke or uk or unc or anyone not named by the fbi also had Arizona or Louisville or Kansas on their list as well. I just have a hard time believing multiple players and their families/handlers would leave six figures on the table to go play anywhere for free, but I’m sure there Have been exceptions.
I also feel like it’s common sense that if the only schools that were named by the fbi were the only schools paying players, they would have been raking in higher ranked classes year in and year out. And as far as Louisville is concerned the only five star recruits we landed the decade before the fbi sting were Siva, blackshear, behanen, Shaq Aaron, and VJ king. With none being ranked in the top 10.
I’ll Go back to baracus and his crazy but enlightening hypothetical. If someone had a gun to your head and asked you if ur school had provided impermissible benefits ($) to land recruits and ur life depended on you guessing the right answer, bc like u said none of us have any inside info on what’s really goin on, but we all know what any fan of any relevant school would guess if their life was on the line, regardless of how educated they are regarding the FBI sting.
But I understand ur stance of not conceding that ur school is cheating when there’s no tangible proof. I just don’t buy that the only teams cheating were the ones that got caught. But I’m not gonna change ur opinion just like ur not gonna change mine so we can agree to disagree.
