UNC's Ongoing Story with the NCAA

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  1. Mark Gastineau

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    Let's see how long this one lasts...
     
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    http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article48030155.html

    Regarding the Nov. 29 Point of View “Hiring out leadership”: I agree that the primary failure during the UNC academic scandal was in institutional leadership. The poet Homer warned long ago of the peril of serving too many masters.

    The leadership role at public institutions like UNC is constantly challenged – and sometimes distracted – by the relentless demands of fundraising, big-time athletics, state politics and public accountability, among others.

    From a crisis management perspective – and UNC certainly created a crisis for itself – it is often beneficial to retain outside counsel to avoid a myopic view of a situation and to separate legitimate issues and concerns from less meritorious ones.

    Ultimately, all leaders are responsible for the decisions, actions and outcomes under their watch. Maybe they make it harder than it has to be, and maybe there aren’t enough moral gut checks these days, either.

    Now more than five years into the UNC scandal, the real question is: For $10 million, did UNC get its money’s worth? I would have offered the best “business” advice to any UNC chancellor early on: “Tell the truth, tell it all and tell it fast,” even if it’s embarrassing, especially if it’s damning.

    Honesty and transparency should be standard crisis operating procedure.


    PATRICK SOTER O’NEIL, PH.D.

    RALEIGH

    The writer is a corporate marketing executive.
     
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    A couple make-up likes for you Mark. Proud of ya! :D
     
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    Of course men's basketball wasn't involved at all....
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    This is too funny.
     
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    Just keeping the masses informed. Glad you and your fan boy @dirtyrock15 are enjoying it.
     
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    God bless all you folks. Regardless of what happens to my university I'll always bleed baby blue and love my Tar Heels.

    !!!!!!!!go Roy and staff!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!go Tar Heels!!!!!!!!!!


    May as well get that in now.
     
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    Just want to get my prediction in so it's on record ...

    UNC will lose every game that falls within the arbitrary timeline defined in the NOA (including titles & final fours). Roy will leave after this season to avoid a show cause. There will be postseason bans and scholly reductions.
     
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    Who knows, this thread might be twice as long as the old one before we get a resolution.
     
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    wanna get my prediction in so it's on record.

    Ain't shit happening to basketball. No wins gone. No titles gone. No show cause. No probation. No lost scholarships. Everyone will blast the NCAA and rightfully so.
     
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    Fair enough. If that's the case, I think a lot of other schools are going to have something to say to the NCAA.
     
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    and the NCAA won't give half a squirt of monkey piss because NCAA answers to no one... and that's the problem.
     
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    But they actually do. You should have watched Emmert squirm when he was called to testify before Congress. One congressman reminded him that they could easily take over the NCAA. They briefly touched on UNC during that session, but they said they were going to call him back again before it was all said and done.
     
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    What are they going to do? Disband from the NCAA and show that it has always been business first and academics last? Will take some apocalyptic size balls from some legit schools to even seem like a threat.
     
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    I would love it if the NCAA did exactly what @jarms24 is predicting. However, my prediction is precisely what @JasonSpear has predicted. Not a damn thing going to happen to the corrupt ass basketball program. However, that doesn't change the fact that Nose Smith is just a big as cheat as anyone else involved. And Huck hound learned it all from him. Burn that college down as far as I'm concerned. Rename the nose dome to Mary Willingham Center and call it a day.
     
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    Wouldn't some schools have a legit anti trust case considering how hard they smacked Cuse for much less? I'm sure the NCAA knows they'd lose that one.
     
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    Not sure the mode of recourse, but I imagine it would elicit a sharp response.
     
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    No due date for the assignment, and a temporary grade assigned until a paper is turned in? Wonder why the date of Crowder's email was redacted...

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    This twitter account is pure gold. I'll be posting some of the tweets here from time to time. Great source of facts, not opinions.

    twitter.com/bluedevilicious
     
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    Also, it's amazing the 180 they made about Mary Willingham.

     
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    now that's fantastic.
     
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    I thought men's basketball wasn't involved....
     
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    I concur Doctor
     
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    Is that a problem? Wow.
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    Holy shit! RollLaugh

    If they were doing this for a sport that they're more than willing to sacrifice to save men's basketball, then just imagine what they did for mbb. "2 REAL courses" OMG :eek:

     
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    @coryfly , is real the opposite of fake or easy?
     
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    But these are just opinions . . . SmokinSmile
     
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    Wow-o-Wow
     
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    [​IMG]

    Ahh, and the infamous using non-athletes as a cover, email. Gotta save this one.
     
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    And to be clear, Wayne Walden was a member of the men's basketball coaching staff.

    Tweet!
     
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    @jarms24 , I really wish we didn't have to rely on opinions and could actually present some facts.RollLaugh
     
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    Those emails are merely opinions. Do not try to pass them off as facts.
     
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    Version 2.0 off to a strong start with a lot of excellent posts. And @jarms24, that twitter feed is indeed full of material. Wowza!
     
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    Mannnnnn that's a LOTTA systematic cheating going on over at the Hill.

    I'm just amazed at all of the recruits Duke didn't get in the face of this cheating and still have the type of success that we do.

    I do feel bad for some of my UNC friends on here and throughout the country, though. These emails are just hard to ignore.
     
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    Remember that time @coryfly mathematically proved Mary Willingham wrong, but Sara Ganim proved her right. Laughing

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