Suicide

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  1. LetsAllWhine

    LetsAllWhine Well-Known Member
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    Normally I keep my personal business to a minimum on here and enjoy the anonymity of a public board, but this week I will be burying two of my nephews, one of whom died too young from a disease. The other who died from a horrible disease also, called depression. Now of course depressed people are sad but sadness is not the disease of depression. Depression is a mental disorder.

    Just going to say this, most people know the main syptoms and signs to look for in someone battling depression or thinking suicide and quite honestly if someone is really set on ending their life then in most cases there is little you can do to prevent them. However the huge flag missed in my nephews case was he came home from another state in the middle of a very busy time at work and spent time with his parents, his siblings and friends, and under the guise of the "new and improved him" cleaned his childhood bedroom, put things in order and gave things away to all of the above and several places such as Goodwill, since he as a better new him, did not need such things. I was not around him or I would have immediately known he was saying goodbye but sadly no one caught on to what he was doing, instead they were all giddy over how awesome he was doing.

    I do not feel the need for an extended thread so comment or dont, but add this to your list of friends in need, its a huge tell if you are looking.

    Now I will be helping my family and in the mean time going back to what breaks up my day, Ohio State, messing with Mich fans and trying to figure out why you young guys like woman with fat asses, so carry on.
     
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    My older brother (by 18 months) committed suicide in 2008. I wish I could say that it was a surprise, but it wasn't. We all knew that it would happen, but didn't know exactly when. His first attempt was when he was about 20 years old and had just graduated from boot camp. After that there were many more serious but unsuccessful attempts, too numerous to recount here.

    We tried everything that we knew of to help him, including therapy, doctors, medications, and you name it over a 22 year time span. Finally he moved far away from his family, and of course it wasn't long before we got that dreaded phone call...
     
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    So sorry for your loss. Prayers to you and your family. So sad, hope he found the peace he was looking for.
     
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    Sorry to hear this.

    I just got to go see the new Children's Hospital Mental Health wing that Ryan Day is helping pay to get built the other day. I'm glad he chose that as his charity as mental health is overlooked far too much in this country.

    For those who don't know, Ryan Day lost his father to suicide when he was a child.

    But yeah .... losing people, especially young people in any fashion is gut wrenching. Let alone via suicide.

    Thoughts go out to you and your family. That's rough man.
     
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    I'm truly sorry for your losses.

    #UCFacts

    :(
     
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    Had a good friend and old roommate do this just 6 months after we moved out. The saddest part is they had a little 5yo girl. I used to be upset with them because of what they left behind, but now I understand they just felt the world would be better without them. It just sucks. Sorry you are having to deal with it.
     
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    I know someone from a long time ago actually was ready to do it, but did take a 2nd thought on how it would affect his family and loved ones. He wrote the note and his younger brother found it a little before he was going to do it.

    He witnessed what his little brother would look and be like after reading it. He then realized how devastating and lost he would have left his little brother and also other family. It completely changed him. He said his little brother's shoulders and body went limp and just dropped to the floor screaming and crying uncontrollably. He quickly ran to his brother slumped over on the floor and picked him up and hugged him and told him it was for a play to act out. The little brother still couldn't stop screaming and crying for a while, but eventually realized it didn't happen yet.

    It completely flipped his entire demeanor and actually saved his life. His little brother was 15 and he was 20 at the time.
     
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    I believe the saying goes more cushion for the pushin.

    Sorry for your loss.
     
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    Praying for you.
     
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    Sorry for your losses, OP. Unfortunately most of us have family or friends who have lost the battle with depression. It’s just really heartbreaking when it happens
     
  11. BrazilianBuckeye

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    It is the last stages of that progressive disease called "Selfishness."
     
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    Lost a coupla people I went to school with to suicide.
    One was a year ahead of me who couldn't get over his daughter commiting suicide and a year after she offed herself he did on her grave.
    Grief can lead to a pretty dark place. And some guilt behind it.

    The other one was a year behind me. Dunno exactly what caused it because it was passed on to me during a visit home.

    And another one was an ex-seal I knew who wouldn't put up with the last stage of cancer and took himself out.

    It's a mammyjammer, I know. I'm a classic case of depressive alcoholic and in sobriety being a member of AA I have gone thru a coupla bouts with suicidal depression. I've learned how to deal with it. Not easy. But doable.
     
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    Years ago, I used to believe as you do. I walked in and found my college roommate who had committed suicide on his birthday. It was life changing and horrific. I felt he was selfish for years, until I realized as I’ve aged that it’s truly a sickness and not necessarily something that person even feels they can control.

    Obviously every situation is different, but selfishness sadly isn’t really a factor in why people end their own lives.

    OP- thoughts and prayers to you and your family. So sorry for your loss.
     
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    so sad and sorry about this..read somewhere recently that our Nation's suicide rate has reached an all time high...about 1/2 being vets..something like 22 total every day but can't remember the exact details..
     
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    Read again. Wrote "the last stages," referring to a condition that starts out as a petulant selfishness at a very early age, but the progression into that of an illness at its conclusion can no longer can be termed "selfishness" because it has since twisted and diseased the mind, which can no longer grasp the responsibilities of what they are doing nor the long term repercussions.
     
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    I honestly hope you continue thinking this way because so long as you do it means you've never experienced what this is like. Count yourself lucky.
     
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    High school friend took his life Saturday. He was apparently trying to get back with his ex. Been divorced for several years. I went to his FB page and find many signs going back to the end of may. His last post was a video of George Jones singing " He stopped loving her today ". It was 2 days before his suicide..
     
  18. BrazilianBuckeye

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    Where that true. I have experienced multiple suicide effects for those I love and care.
     
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    Get professional help. This is the land of hyperbole and blue font doled out by people who aren't exploring every angle....

    As to the OP.... I can appreciate the pain the family feels. Falling short with someone you care about is a horrible feeling that is not easily soothed...
     
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    sending good thoughts OP
     
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    My junior year in high school, a freshman girl killed herself. From what I heard, she got into an argument with her parents, got her father's gun(who was in law enforcement), went into the bathroom and shot herself. Reading the message on her obituary from her parents was extremely sad.
     
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    As someone who continually makes efforts to harm hisself, its pain.

    I haven't succeeded, but I know I will someday. Thats the hell of suicide.
     
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    I'm sorry man, that sounds horrible
     
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    I've put two of my best friends in the ground over the last twelve months. Both ended up their by their own hand.

    It's a very real problem it seems. I'm not sure what's causing the spike of depression in this country (suicide rates are noticeably increasing) but I'm shocked some people still brush it off as cowardice. I can't think of any symptom of mental sickness that should prove someone's condition more than suicide. Clearly these people are sick. And they need help.

    It's a shitty ordeal to go through OP.
     
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    I’m sure it’s a combination of many things.

    I have to think pharmaceuticals have had an impact on depression. Not just pills either, it seems every time people start to feel a little sluggish, they have to put some type of stimulant in their body for a quick jolt, which will eventually result in a crash.

    Terrible diets, lack of exercise, and overstimulation of our brains probably have as well.

    Our bodies are meant to be worked as much as our brains are but think about how few people exhaust themselves physically every day but constantly keep their brains active by using their phones or computers all day.

    I’m sure I’m not the only one that notices at a stoplight how many people are looking at their phones because they just can’t relax for a few seconds. Many even have to look while they drive.

    I know there are other factors besides that and some people are more prone to depression than others, and I’m certainly no expert on the subject, but this would be the very first thing I would do if I was battling depression because anyone can do it.
     
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    Sucks Fella.... Reach out on a side bar if it'll help...
     
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    Prayers to you and your family.

    I had a boss who committed suicide, he was wound so tight just knew he would snap at some point. Don't know if that was depression or not. A friend's son committed suicide, had battled depression almost his whole life. There is no explaining the grief and pain for those left behind, along with misplaced guilt for not recognizing it or not being able to do enough about it.

    I appreciate you and commend you for the help you are bringing to your family members who are suffering.
     
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    Sorry for your loss.

    And Ohio State sucks balls.
     
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    Well, there ya go. Try to give honest help and ya get compliments.

    What was (is) your addiction? I had a friend for years who was a "High Functioning" opioid addict. Eventually even Methadone caused enough harm he passed away due to complications of his addiction. He used to tell me He could hang on so long as he knew that shot was there for him when he got home.... I wish the use of buprenorphine was more widespread back when...

    I suggest you rethink your opinion of Board Members.... Some of those you might term azzes here will try to help you if others will not.
     
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    No stranger to the breed... That really doesn't make you rare. I can'y say I know any who's opinion I'd value that would be glad any poster is a drunk. A lot here secretly fear they are alcoholics.... I confess I have to think, "What the heck?", as to the tie in to porno. My understanding is drinking lowers inhibitions against doing things you might like to do but would not do, whatever the reason (social pressures etc), without those lowered inhibitions....

    That not the case?...
     
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    Thoughts and prayers for you. I don't know what to say, you probably heard it before anyway. But please find someone to talk to.

    Godspeed to happiness for you.
     
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    Well that funeral was a cluster fk, with a life long drug addict criminal for dad (my brother) and a mother with enough mental issues to have her own monthy column in Psyche monthly it was beyond wierd, and today we bury yet another nephew, stillborn 36 weeks and no risks through the pregnancy that were are aware but tests will be a few weeks before we know, if at all.
     
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    When I was in high school, the girl across the street shot herself with her father's gun on campus while we were at a basketball game. I clearly remember seeing people helping her parents back to the house later that night.
     
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    Have known three people who committed suicide. A very sad thing.
     
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    It used to be we ALL know someone who has been affected by cancer.

    Nowadays it seems we ALL know someone suicidal,depressed, or addicted to opiates/heroin


    Within the past 3 years I know 11 people who overdosed and died, thats a crazy amount of people.

    People have dealt with addiction/suicide/mental health issues forever, but lately its on another level
     
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    It has always been a mystery to me why anyone would think of suicide as an option. But as I say that I realize we all have different thresholds and coping skills.

    For the rest of us, we probably should do what we can to not make matters worse for others. But I dont think for a minute that anything I say or do is going to keep anyone from doing what they believe is their ultimate answer. Although I would always feel compelled to try.
     
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    Might sound stupid but it isn't.... You have any inkling WHY you'd want to do yourself in?.... This old world would be a lesser place without you....
     
  38. collegefbfan2017

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    It might be because people are challenging. It might not be about this old world. I've had my share of challenges. I've never been suicidal but I can sympathize with people who are. There have been times when I felt useless. It's not a pleasant feeling. I don't think there has been enough research done by sociology. I'm guessing suicide has been a problem for a long time.
    I know a few people who have committed suicide. It seems to follow depression pretty closely. And anxiety. Both of which I struggle with. It began relatively young.

    They can treat it but at the time I couldn't cope. It isn't just general malaise. Depression can be very hard to address. I only mention it because there is a social stigma surrounding it. Apparently Abraham Lincoln suffered from it. Yet he did incredible things. Almost like he was meant to serve in the capacity of a president. My best guess is he simply put on a brace face to the world. He's one of those I'm not sure history really ever got right. I liked Daniel Day Lewis portrayal. Supposedly that one at least partly characterized the man.

    We all want someone to lead. It seems Lincoln was prepared doesn't it? At least for that tenure which massively shifted our nation's history. Slavery was common. I'm not sure how our forebears saw it but it was actually a sign of prosperity within the developmental proprietary. And my best guess is that there wasn't much reason to abandon it but for Lincoln. Who opposed it.
     
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    My heart goes out for your family....prayers sent.
     
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    You understand I do not care much for Mr Lincoln?...

    I get that there are times people, all people, feel low..... I gather that suicide is an effort to stop feeling. It is the oddest of ironies of humanity some fight very hard to have one more day and others will throw away all the days they have that will come...

    IDK, and, seriously, I really doubt any one else really does either. I get there are some who may have a better grasp of things than I do, no big feat that, but such things are intensely unique as are people in general.... We all share common threads but it seems there are endless differing ways the same event can register one person to another.... I doubt any can do that either though some may recognize trends like contacting loved ones saying good bye, or giving their possessions away... but how to fix what is broken?

    If talk or exchanges will help I am all for it.... If anybody wanted me for a sounding board have at it... I just have to admit I do not KNOW what to say to a person in a personal crisis of the sort you describe... I subscribe to the adage "Time heals all wounds, greater the wound, greater the time...". Some simply do not want to suffer the time...
     

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