Prosperity gospel
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They went elsewhere and didn't make a big fuss of it. This is what responsible citizens should do.
Cool. And if you actually read this thread you'd see nearly everyone said some variation of that.
You're saying its ok to be condescending towards an atheist? We're people too.
Just about no gay couple in HISTORY is going to file some small local lawsuit because they want more attention. In fact, I’ve never met anyone who files a lawsuit for attention. That is almost assuredly not the reason.
No. That is not necessarily true. If a black couple in the 60s went to eat in a restaurant, and they said we don’t serve blacks, would you say that, if they are responsible citizens, they should go elsewhere?
Horseshit. You are wrong.
This is a valid point. However, the the environment in the 60's for black people was a lot less accepting than it is for gays today. There will never be a day where we are free of discrimination. I would be 100% in agreement with you if there weren't many, if not any other place for these men to get their cake made.
If the Supreme Court made a decision in the opposite decision I probably would've got behind that too. I don't necessarily agree with everything they do but they are the most trustworthy institution in Washington when it comes to not making decisions on punditry.
If that changes, we are screwed
If that changes, we are screwed
This. I work for a small business. You Don t ever turn away a customer b/c of their beliefs. If you do, it' surefire way to go out of buisness.
Just a quick thought (s):
1. As a society we have became way to soft and sensitive. We take everything literally .
2. Weird how suddenly everyone's an expert on their "rights". Rights that some abuse. Rights that some really Do not understand the context in which they were created.
3. If we quit letting what someone else believes, feels, says or thinks, hurt our feelings, I think we'd see a change in our lives...And society. Not everyone is right. But not everyone is wrong either. Figuring out that balance and being able to accept it, would be a huge step in the right ditection.
JMO on this beautiful Tuesday morning.
1. As a society we have became way to soft and sensitive. We take everything literally .
2. Weird how suddenly everyone's an expert on their "rights". Rights that some abuse. Rights that some really Do not understand the context in which they were created.
3. If we quit letting what someone else believes, feels, says or thinks, hurt our feelings, I think we'd see a change in our lives...And society. Not everyone is right. But not everyone is wrong either. Figuring out that balance and being able to accept it, would be a huge step in the right ditection.
JMO on this beautiful Tuesday morning.
This isn't the 1960's. Obviously we live in a completely different society. If any business did that now, they would go out of business. You think any company could survive negative PR like that? They would go out of business, and rightfully so.
Thou shalt not kill..... it doesn't say except those that worship another god lol
A "responsible citizen" does NOT just walk away when they feel like an injustice is done. A "responsible citizen" should do something about it; that's what being responsible IS. This goes beyond what year it is.
That's fine. Go tell everyone about your injustice and then the negative PR will be circulating. Company goes out of business. Justice is served.
If it's for religious reasons, then no. You can't invoke government compulsion to make someone sell something to you. That's violating the first amendment.
Right, which is not just going somewhere else, which is what you claimed "responsible citizens" would do.
There are limits to that. It can cost the individual their govt job. There are lawsuits that would not and should not break in favor of the defendant claiming religious immunity. A JW doctor at a private hospital should face criminal prosecution for refusing to give a blood transfusion.
^ I think there's a little bit of difference between generating negative publicity and then frequenting another store, as opposed to dragging out litigation for multiple years, and unfairly threatening the livelihood of a legitimate business which offered multiple alternatives.
As far as government compulsion interfering with freedom of religion, I was obviously referring to a privately owned business, where the business owner is the one making the case for a morally conscious decision. Public officials are not free to apply personal convictions in place of their public duties and responsibilities (aka Kentucky clerk who refused to issue same-sex marriage license). And FWIW, I've read that JW physicians could not order blood transfusions for their patients and remain in good standing with the church (hopefully another Doctor could do this), but JW nurses are permitted to administer blood transfusions as they are not involved in the decision-making process. Blood transfusions are overwhelmingly performed by nurses, as doctors usually just order it. I could be wrong on what's allowed for JW, but either way I was only arguing for a private business with the owner making the stand for a moral (or controversial) decision.
As far as government compulsion interfering with freedom of religion, I was obviously referring to a privately owned business, where the business owner is the one making the case for a morally conscious decision. Public officials are not free to apply personal convictions in place of their public duties and responsibilities (aka Kentucky clerk who refused to issue same-sex marriage license). And FWIW, I've read that JW physicians could not order blood transfusions for their patients and remain in good standing with the church (hopefully another Doctor could do this), but JW nurses are permitted to administer blood transfusions as they are not involved in the decision-making process. Blood transfusions are overwhelmingly performed by nurses, as doctors usually just order it. I could be wrong on what's allowed for JW, but either way I was only arguing for a private business with the owner making the stand for a moral (or controversial) decision.
Good choice, you probably wouldn't fit in.Hah! We did that on Scout... we'd find some unused board and just take it over
But yeah, no way am I checking that out
I don't want to belong to any club that will accept people like me as a member.
It's all of the reject threads from the mainboard. Most of those threads are like the 3rd or 4th time that topic has been posted in a very short period of time so the mods will move them to high school board where nothing is ever happening.
It's just a small taste of what goes on over there every single day. There's probably 25 threads a day that involve Lebron James right now. Probably another 25 that are directly related to Donald Trump. Maybe more. The good threads remain on the board and don't get moved. Those are ones involving weird stories in the news, advice on things like food recs/travel/etc., recent news that doesn't involve politics (although posters seem to turn them into that), funny videos/gifs and really just a wide variety of random other thoughts and stuff. It's like the Soundoff board only way more active with many more posters. Because of that you get a whole lot more bs lame responses (kys, kys ***git, diaf, you're poor, yore poor, etc.) but it also means that there's a lot more quality posters around. It's fun, if you're not a premium member it's worth the 30 cents a day to subscribe and be entertained.
I used to post over there all the time. Now I pretty much just lurk and seek out threads I think that I'll like.
It's fun to read, but it's lacking a bit of venom. Jokes and straight up insults are different. This board has insults.
Not necessarily. See Newman v. Piggie Park, in which the owner of drive-in restaurants tried to deny service to blacks for supposed religious reasons and was shut down. And business owners voluntarily enter into the stream of commerce by opening to the public (the whole public accommodation argument). You can't, for instance, claim that your business is the will of god and thus tax exempt. There's a line somewhere, but it's not nearly as black and white as proponents on either side like to argue.
I'm sure there probably are a lot of nuances like that. Seems pretty silly to suggest that your religion doesn't allow interracial commerce. So I guess I can concede and say my statement is a generality for most business owners.
If it weren't for tMB I would never run across things like this.
Wow. That's cold.
Most people are at that stage.
