****Official B1G Off Season Thread****

[hailtoyourvictor]

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith led the box office in 2005, the last year Illinois made it past the round of 32. Some other top movies in the box office that year included Wedding Crashers, Meet The Fockers, Batman Begins, and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

 

[1016CC0503]

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith led the box office in 2005, the last year Illinois made it past the round of 32. Some other top movies in the box office that year included Wedding Crashers, Meet The Fockers, Batman Begins, and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

Do what led the box office when Juwan last beat Underwood.

 

[NC_Trojan10]

Do what led the box office when Juwan last beat Underwood.

Would you rather beat a random team in the regular season, or win the Big Ten and make the Elite 8? Personally I don’t care what the head to head record vs any team is as long as my team is winning overall.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Do what led the box office when Juwan last beat Underwood.

Our programs clearly have different bars/goals.

 

[RichieRebel]

Do what led the box office when Juwan last beat Underwood.

Underwood is just living rent free. Love it.

 

[Ingersol]

Do what led the box office when Juwan last beat Underwood.

What are your conference predictions?

 

[Jaycg15]

Lol at declaring Plummer and Payne better than Miller and the alphabet.

Last year you also had a very good backup PG. You don’t even have an average backup PG this year.

Trent Frazier isn’t a good back up PG? That’s an interesting alternative reality that you have created.

 

[boilerzz]

Watching UC-IU. First time I’ve seen either this year. Damn, these QBs are inaccurate throwing the football.

 

[VulvHa]

Do what led the box office when Juwan last beat Underwood.

Hail is annoying as fck a lot of the times, but it is a reach to say that Underwood/Illinois has been more successful than Howard/Michigan in recent years.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Underwood is just living rent free. Love it.

You write like a boomer so atleast you remember Illinois making it to a Sweet 16. Gillinois was in grade school 😂.

 

[NC_Trojan10]

Trent Frazier isn’t a good back up PG? That’s an interesting alternative reality that you have created.

He’s your starting 2.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Hail is annoying as fck a lot of the times, but it is a reach to say that Underwood/Illinois has been more successful than Howard/Michigan in recent years.

Juwan has as many tournament wins at Michigan (there’s only been one tournament since he’s been here) as the entire Illinois program does since 2006.

 

[1016CC0503]

What are your conference predictions?

Tier 1
Michigan Illinois

Tier 2
Purdue Ohio State

Tier 3
Maryland MSU Indiana (w/good coaching)

Tier 4
Rutgers Wisconsin Indiana (w/bad coaching)

Tier 5
Who cares

Tier 6
Minnesota

 

[RichieRebel]

He’s your starting 2.

Yes- it’ll be mainly Belo-Trent-Plummer playing 1-2.

 

[Ingersol]

Tier 1
Michigan Illinois

Tier 2
Purdue Ohio State

Tier 3
Maryland MSU Indiana (w/good coaching)

Tier 4
Rutgers Wisconsin Indiana (w/bad coaching)

Tier 5
Who cares

Tier 6
Minnesota

Thats fair. I disagree on a bit but I dont think its wild. You may be right and I may be wrong.

 

[NC_Trojan10]

Tier 1
Michigan Illinois

Tier 2
Purdue Ohio State

Tier 3
Maryland MSU Indiana (w/good coaching)

Tier 4
Rutgers Wisconsin Indiana (w/bad coaching)

Tier 5
Who cares

Tier 6
Minnesota

I hate Purdue as much as anything, but how can you possibly not have them in the top tier? You would be better off switching Illinois and Purdue in this prediction.

 

[NC_Trojan10]

Yes- it’ll be mainly Belo-Trent-Plummer playing 1-2.

And you think that trio at the 1-2 is better than Ayo, Frazier, and Curbelo? Doesn’t even factor in Miller. Your backcourt isn’t as good as it was last year. It’s that simple.

 

[IUBtown]

Torvik says it with a straight face.

What's torvik? And is this compared to other teams or comparing last years team vs this years?

 

[1016CC0503]

Hail is annoying as fck a lot of the times, but it is a reach to say that Underwood/Illinois has been more successful than Howard/Michigan in recent years.

Since Juwan has been coach of Michigan, Illinois leads the conference in wins.

We got upset by Loyola and unfortunately the tournament was canceled due to COVID the year before.

It’s silly to use one tournament as the barometer of success when we have 40+ games of in common opponents in conference over that span.

 

[1016CC0503]

I hate Purdue as much as anything, but how can you possibly not have them in the top tier? You would be better off switching Illinois and Purdue in this prediction.

Nah, we have a better backcourt and the best center in the country.

 

[IUBtown]

Torvik says it with a straight face.

Torvik actually projects them to be worse offensively compared to last year and their overal power ranking is worse. So...

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Since Juwan has been coach of Michigan, Illinois leads the conference in wins.

We got upset by Loyola and unfortunately the tournament was canceled due to COVID the year before.

It’s silly to use one tournament as the barometer of success when we have 40+ games of in common opponents in conference over that span.

Juwan won as many tournament games in the first tournament as a head coach as Illinois has since 2006 as an entire program.

 

[NC_Trojan10]

Nah, we have a better backcourt and the best center in the country.

So you are actually going to say a backcourt of Curbelo, Frazier, and Plummer is better than a backcourt with Curbelo, Frazier, and Ayo? You are essentially saying Plummer is better than Ayo.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Torvik says it with a straight face.

No he doesnt

 

[boiler1987]

Nah, we have a better backcourt and the best center in the country.

Williams/Edey> Kofi/whoever else you have.

 

[boilerzz]

Those bottom B1G schools should be embarrassed.


1 Alabama 91.788
2 Syracuse 120.25
3 Arizona State 123.7
4 Kansas 124.653
5 Mississippi State 124.846
6 Tennessee 126.923
7 Michigan 128.181
8 Oklahoma State 128.615
9 Purdue 134.272
10 West Virginia 135.211
11 Louisville 135.363
12 Oregon 136.59
13 NC State 136.636
14 North Carolina 139.363
15 Michigan State 139.5
16 Villanova 139.818
17 Xavier 141.818
18 Auburn 144.615
19 Clemson 145.568
20 Marquette 145.931
21 Florida 147.615
22 Missouri 147.666
23 Virginia 149.95
24 Vanderbilt 150.365
25 Maryland 152.727
26 Pitt 153.09
27 LSU 154.23
28 Florida State 154.409
29 Providence 155.454
30 Wisconsin 155.545
31 Ohio State 156
32 Baylor 160.057
33 Duke 161.727
34 Seton Hall 162.363
35 Illinois 164.909
36 Georgia 165.192
37 Utah 165.35
38 Washington State 166.181
39 Virginia Tech 166.363
40 Miami 167.09
41 Oklahoma 167.153
42 TCU 167.692
43 Colorado 168.113
44 Georgetown 168.272
45 Arizona 168.454
46 Kentucky 168.923
47 Washington 170
48 UCLA 170.545
49 USC 172.09
50 Butler 172.272
51 Arkansas 174.038
52 Cal 174.818
53 Georgia Tech 177
54 UConn 177.636
55 Notre Dame 178.227
56 Kansas State 180.115
57 South Carolina 182.192
58 Stanford 183.75
59 Saint John's 186.363
60 DePaul 186.636
61 Indiana 189.636
62 Ole Miss 190.173
63 Iowa State 190.538
64 Penn State 190.545
65 Oregon State 190.65
66 Texas A&M 193.653
67 Boston College 196.15
68 Nebraska 199.181
69 Texas 199.615
70 Creighton 201.113
71 Texas Tech 201.538
72 Rutgers 208.272
73 Wake Forest 212.59
74 Northwestern 223.545
75 Minnesota 226.8
76 Iowa 241.818

 

[1016CC0503]

So you are actually going to say a backcourt of Curbelo, Frazier, and Plummer is better than a backcourt with Curbelo, Frazier, and Ayo? You are essentially saying Plummer is better than Ayo.

Better backcourt than Purdue…

 

[RichieRebel]

No he doesnt

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[1016CC0503]

Juwan won as many tournament games in the first tournament as a head coach as Illinois has since 2006 as an entire program.

Oregon State has too, that doesn’t make it a good argument.

 

[boilerzz]

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Torvik is always terrible pre-conference and he admits it’s flawed.

 

[VulvHa]

Since Juwan has been coach of Michigan, Illinois leads the conference in wins.

We got upset by Loyola and unfortunately the tournament was canceled due to COVID the year before.

It’s silly to use one tournament as the barometer of success when we have 40+ games of in common opponents in conference over that span.

Historically, Purdue has the most B1G championships, but that clearly doesn’t make Purdue the best B1G program of all time.

 

[1016CC0503]

Williams/Edey> Kofi/whoever else you have.

No.

Good try though!

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

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.9114 is worse than .9491

 

[NC_Trojan10]

Better backcourt than Purdue…

Umm… what? What does that have to do with anything?

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Oregon State has too, that doesn’t make it a good argument.

That’s embarrassing for your program

 

[Ingersol]

I hate Purdue as much as anything, but how can you possibly not have them in the top tier? You would be better off switching Illinois and Purdue in this prediction.

I agree. I have Purdue, OSU, and Michigan as the top tier. I'm lower on Illinois than most but I can definitely see the appeal to them. The frosh to soph leap is a real thing and if Belo makes it, then I can see Illinois. I'm just a little less confident in that. I also don't know the Illinois roster as well as the Illinois guys so that could explain why they are so much higher on them.

 

[boiler1987]

No.

Good try though!

You’re in denial.

 

[VulvHa]

I agree. I have Purdue, OSU, and Michigan as the top tier. I'm lower on Illinois than most but I can definitely see the appeal to them. The frosh to soph leap is a real thing and if Belo makes it, then I can see Illinois. I'm just a little less confident in that. I also don't know the Illinois roster as well as the Illinois guys so that could explain why they are so much higher on them.

If the frosh to soph leap is to be considered, than Ivey, Newman, Edey, and Gillis for Purdue has to get the bump too right? Purdue was one of the youngest teams in the nation last year.

 

[1016CC0503]

You’re in denial.

Your bigs are mediocre defenders, have fun with that.

 

[NC_Trojan10]

I agree. I have Purdue, OSU, and Michigan as the top tier. I'm lower on Illinois than most but I can definitely see the appeal to them. The frosh to soph leap is a real thing and if Belo makes it, then I can see Illinois. I'm just a little less confident in that. I also don't know the Illinois roster as well as the Illinois guys so that could explain why they are so much higher on them.

OSU is not top tier. If they had Washington still then yea, but they don’t.