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****Official B1G Off Season Thread****

Old B1G threads get deleted, do we keep everything as is?


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Saying his defense is just okay is way over selling his defense 😂 I think he’s horrible defensively but makes up for it and more with what he gives you on the offensive side.

I’m not really disagreeing with anything you said since defense is half the game. I was just pointing out that I would put him second tier based on D but I’d put him up with about any other big on the offensive side/rebounding in general.
The worst part is when he's bad defensively and makes stupid fouls on top of it - like unneeded reaches on ball handlers. Like Biggie wasn't good defensively, but he knew how to go out there, stay out of foul trouble, stay in position, and at least grab a ton of boards.

He's gotta be smarter there. And generally, he's just gotta be a more consistent presence.
 
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Illinois fans: Kenpom, Kenpom, Kenpom

Me: Kenpom had Michigan higher than Illinois

Illinois fans: Well Kenpom means nothing



Illinois fans: We beat Michigan head to head, we beat Michigan head to head, we beat Michigan head to head!

Me: You lost in the 2nd round of the tournament.

Illinois fans: One game sample sizes mean nothing. Look at Kenpom for our entire body of work!


Me: Michigan is higher.

Illinois fans: Yeah but we beat Michigan head to head!




This is the level of potato we have to deal with now that Illinois is back to being average and not trash.
 
Illinois fans: Kenpom, Kenpom, Kenpom

Me: Kenpom had Michigan higher than Illinois

Illinois fans: Well Kenpom means nothing



Illinois fans: We beat Michigan head to head, we beat Michigan head to head, we beat Michigan head to head!

Me: You lost in the 2nd round of the tournament.

Illinois fans: One game sample sizes mean nothing. Look at Kenpom for our entire body of work!


Me: Michigan is higher.

Illinois fans: Yeah but we beat Michigan head to head!




This is the level of potato we have to deal with now that Illinois is back to being average and not trash.
I have full confidence they can get back to trash.
 
Illinois fans: Kenpom, Kenpom, Kenpom

Me: Kenpom had Michigan higher than Illinois

Illinois fans: Well Kenpom means nothing



Illinois fans: We beat Michigan head to head, we beat Michigan head to head, we beat Michigan head to head!

Me: You lost in the 2nd round of the tournament.

Illinois fans: One game sample sizes mean nothing. Look at Kenpom for our entire body of work!


Me: Michigan is higher.

Illinois fans: Yeah but we beat Michigan head to head!




This is the level of potato we have to deal with now that Illinois is back to being average and not trash.
Michigan was trash for well over a decade before they hired Beilein.....
 
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Illinois fans: Kenpom, Kenpom, Kenpom

Me: Kenpom had Michigan higher than Illinois

Illinois fans: Well Kenpom means nothing



Illinois fans: We beat Michigan head to head, we beat Michigan head to head, we beat Michigan head to head!

Me: You lost in the 2nd round of the tournament.

Illinois fans: One game sample sizes mean nothing. Look at Kenpom for our entire body of work!


Me: Michigan is higher.

Illinois fans: Yeah but we beat Michigan head to head!




This is the level of potato we have to deal with now that Illinois is back to being average and not trash.

Agreed with everything except “average.” Most wins in the B1G over the last 2 seasons, looking to be near the upper tier of the league again and recruiting at a nice level. Underwood clearly built up a well above average program.

Honestly, history seems to indicate a DECENT coach should win at Illinois … not a good look for post-Dee Brown Bruce Weber or John Groce, lol.
 
What a terrible time to have Kevin Warren at the helm. He's shit the bed numerous times already, and letting the SEC get Texas would etch his failures in granite.
 
What a terrible time to have Kevin Warren at the helm. He's shit the bed numerous times already, and letting the SEC get Texas would etch his failures in granite.
Wouldn’t Kansas make more sense given their proximity? Texas makes sense for the SEC or ACC
 
Texas makes the most sense of anyone not Notre Dame. Academics are there. Market is huge and growing. Why would you want Kansas over Texas?
If Texas were closer, it would make sense, but they aren’t going to add a school that far away. If Texas and Oklahoma go SEC, I could see the Big Ten going after Kansas and West Virginia.
 
Thank you for furthering my point.
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If the B1G expands, we should not allow fans of the expansion teams in this thread.

I still look at the Maryland/Rutgers/Nebrasketball fans with disgust. Second class trash imo.
Probably throw MSU in there too…newbies.😀
 
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