Maybe you can give us your top 10 players in the conference? How would you rank the players?
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Maybe you can give us your top 10 players in the conference? How would you rank the players?
Besides being BIG, I mean what skills has Kofi displayed that make you see this huge gap?
Its gonna be interesting to see how much truth there is to TJD improvement shooting the ball. He's a 10-15 jumper away from being a lotto pick.
For someone who's 100% better----it seems the H2H match-ups would be very lopsided. Weird.
I haven't been the biggest TJD fan---I htink at times he was soft....shied away from contact. Got bullied. Yet he still dropped 19/9 per game....On a team that couldn't shoot worth a ****.
She was really good. For sure a better shooter than him, probably less good at punching balls/clits
For all we know, that might be precisely why she fell for him.
Unfortunately for TJD, size is huge factor in basketball. And Kofi is 7’ 290 pounds and he isn’t. Kofi can bully 99% of players without having “skills”.
We’ve been over this Kofi averaged more points on less shots, with more rebounds, and less turnovers. Each one isn’t huge but collectively that’s a big difference.
TJD also shot 65% from the FT line which suggests he isn’t ever going to be an above-average outside shooter.
He’s basically a 6’9 center due to his lack of shooting at the NBA level.
I don’t trust Bruce to have that dexterity. He’s probably like a bull in a vagina shop
1.)Cockburn
2.)Dickinson
3.)Liddell
4.)TJD
5.)Ivey
6.)Williams
7.)Wahab
8.)Curbelo
9.)Ayala
10.)Murray
Give or take.
I could see Ivey being a more impactful player than TJD. But his individual stats might not be as good due to Williams/Edey being on his team.
Forgot he came back, good catch.
He could probably be as high as 8th. Although he did fall off in the conference games last year.
Yeah he’s a tough one to rank but I expect him with another year of experience to build off of it. I’d say he’s a top 10 player in the conference.
Yeah he’s a really good scorer, can’t help but wonder how much better he could be if he could get in better shape.
It’ll be interesting to see if Rutgers replace both Johnson and Young. Losing your point guard and center in one offseason to transfer can’t easy.
Except Kofi didn't avg more pts. Kofi has zero skill and terrible footwork, he's a bull and that's it.
Archetype.
Dude lives a hard life.
You know why they call him 19? Number of bar fights.
Probably gets home cracks a beer and shoots yard mice.
Then pictures Kofi’s face while screwing his farm wife.
Smile’s to himself and thinks “this is darn nice” while pinching his arm twice.
How’s my battle rap skills boys?
Dude lives a hard life.
You know why they call him 19? Number of bar fights.
Probably gets home cracks a beer and shoots yard mice.
Then pictures Kofi’s face while screwing his farm wife.
Smile’s to himself and thinks “this is darn nice” while pinching his arm twice.
How’s my battle rap skills boys?
We were talking about head-to-head.
But if you wanna go season stats, I’d take 17.7 ppg on 65% over 19.1 ppg on 52% any day.
That bull with no skill is gonna be a 1st team all-American and a finalist for POY.
Sucks to suck, maybe Indiana can get there first win against him this year. Doubt it though.
This all started when you said there was a large gap between the two. I disagreed there was a large gap. Then you argue something different....
I think RHj is going to have a really good year for us. We had a lot of 6'6" wings (Baker, Mulcahy, McConnell, Mathis) forcing Harper to play a bit more in the post than he probably liked. Hyatt (LSU transfer) playing next to RHj is going to free him up to play from the wing. I think he improves on his 14.9 ppg next season.
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I’m really high on you guys next year. Baker and Harper back are 2 nice pieces. I think Cliff takes a big step. I think you guys are a sneaky dark horse this year.
Who’s your starting lineup?
Omoruyi should progress in his second season. But that’s a lot of responsibility being needed for 30ish minutes a night at C.
Baker gonna slide to the point full time?
Exactly...No one is saying TJD is better. Just that there isn't some huge gap. Kofi isn't that skilled---just big. A bully. TJD is very skilled in post. If he adds a jumper to his game, he's a lotto pick.
Why? A large portion of Kofi's FGA's were, well dunks/lay-ups. I'm surprised he didn't shoot better TBH....Not sure I saw make/take a shot outside of 6-feet.
Here's a breakdown...
Dunks: 35/37.---94%
At the rim(tips, lay-ups, and dunks: 119-173---68%
Other 2-pt shots(jumpers, floaters, hook shots): 28-102---27%
Not sure why you are acting as if Kofi was some dead eyed shooter...He wasn't.
Anything outside of a dunk/lay-up, Kofi was awful---like 27% awful. He can get away with his bullying in college---shit won't fly at the next level.
Yes, I totally said Kofi is a deadeye shooter. Oh wait, never happened.
Yes. Kofi’s style is bully ball, which considering his build isn’t a bad thing. If you are 7’0 295, layups and dunks are all you really need to shoot.
It’s funny though considering TJD is also primarily just a bully style-wise, just not anywhere close to as good.
Illinois specifically loved it when he took jumpers against them.
9-31 for 29% from the field lol
You all are forgetting about Bohannon. And walk on Keegan Murray is our next star.
End of season standings-
Purdue
Michigan
Ohio State
Illinois
MSU
Iowa
Rutgers
End of season standings-
Purdue
Michigan
Ohio State
Illinois
MSU
Iowa
Rutgers
Jesus will not save you.
No Garzilla
No Weezer
No Nunge
No friedrick
no chance
12-14 finish.
You just listed 4 white guys we lost. WTF else do you want us to do?
It’s in the wins column. Easier to score more points when you’re the only person on the team that is decent. With that, check out the efficiency stats. Kofi did what TJD did on a fraction of attempts. Volume is the only way those scoring numbers look comparable.
Same can be said that Ayo took attention away from Kofi to give him better looks, TJD didn't have that. Teams knew he was getting the ball and planned for it. Are you also saying there's a large gap between TJD and Kofi?
TJD is far from "bully style". He has pretty good footwork and a quick first step/move. He also does well on 2nd and 3rd chances. For fvck sakes this is Gil.
I'm not nearly as high on the ILL as I was this time last year, but they still have some fun pieces.
I have no doubt they (should) finish Top 3(ish) in the B1G, but are they a legit championship contender? Obviously we'll know more once the season starts rolling, I'm just a little more pessimistic than others (I feel) this time around.
I have no doubt they (should) finish Top 3(ish) in the B1G, but are they a legit championship contender? Obviously we'll know more once the season starts rolling, I'm just a little more pessimistic than others (I feel) this time around.
Yeah I was fairly optimistic on them early in the year, had some decent money on them vs Baylor. Soured on them as the season went on, they just never were consistent enough. At times looked like they could beat anyone and then struggle against anyone, evident by their 13pt loss against a 10 seed.
Good footwork and having a good first step has nothing to do with being a bully.
Being a bully means you get an extremely high percentage of your looks at or around the rim.
Giannis is a bully in the NBA, his great first step and good footwork doesn’t change that.
Keep up with the times.
With how much Kofi improved from freshman to sophomore year, why are Illinois fans so confident Dickinson is close to maxed out?
Huh? I think he is saying that despite TJD not having much of a perimeter game or the size of some of these centers, he is still very productive attacking the hoop beacuse of a good first step and footwork.
My guess is wishful thinking backed by a false confidence in “advanced” metrics. Reality is he is going to get stronger and advance his skills on all fronts all under the guidance of a long time NBA center and supported by world class training personnel and facilities. Yep - he gonna be good.
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