according to your buddy, it was a historically bad league last year, so conference record carries zero significance apparentlyI was going by conference, but yes you are correct on the overall.
according to your buddy, it was a historically bad league last year, so conference record carries zero significance apparentlyI was going by conference, but yes you are correct on the overall.
wait'll you see my party tricks
My only counter would be Torvik had 6 Big teams in the final Top 50 last season
(ESPN's BPI also had 6)
This season Torvik projects 11 Big teams in the top 50.
(I don't nec agree, but that's just one man's computer nerd rankings)
so there's at least hope that the middle is much improved.
Well, keep your eye on Twitter should Kansas win it all.When are we seeing these party tricks? And do I need to RSVP?
You very possibly could be correct here. I don't think the BIG will be looked at one of the top conferences next year. And I still think that it will be below the average of the past 30 years. My thoughts are because of it being so bad last year....not because I think it's great now.In the last AP regular season poll, the Big Ten had #5 MSU, #7 Michigan, #11 Purdue and #17 Ohio State. In most preseason polls, I not sure I've seen more than 4 Big Ten teams and in no poll were those 4 all in the top 17. I'm not sure where you are seeing the Big Ten being so much better this year. The middle might be a little better but I'm not seeing it substantially better.Thanks for the time and effort..
In a normal season, yes 4 more loses and 7 less wins would be a step back. But with how bad the conference was last year, I don't think its nearly as big of a drop off as normal. My view simply maybe from judging the conference to harshly last year.
Yeah, I got into an argument with a guy about this. Apparently, there's no way that NW can finish below 90th KP because they're ranked mid-40s by Torvik.wait'll you see my party tricks
My only counter would be Torvik had 6 Big teams in the final Top 50 last season
(ESPN's BPI also had 6)
This season Torvik projects 11 Big teams in the top 50.
(I don't nec agree, but that's just one man's computer nerd rankings)
so there's at least hope that the middle is much improved.
Well, keep your eye on Twitter should Kansas win it all.
The Mister threw away the couch I have been wanting to burn for the past 2 or 3 seasons, so that celebration is out..RollLaugh
I will say I’m encouraged by how much Chris Mack wanted him at Xavier to help replace their production and then wanted him to follow him to Louisville.The kid played for basically what was the worst team in the country for two years. I am taking a wait and see
wait'll you see my party tricks
My only counter would be Torvik had 6 Big teams in the final Top 50 last season
(ESPN's BPI also had 6)
This season Torvik projects 11 Big teams in the top 50.
(I don't nec agree, but that's just one man's computer nerd rankings)
so there's at least hope that the middle is much improved.
http://barttorvik.com/trank-time-machine.php?date=20171001&year=2018Any idea what Torvik's projections were prior to last season?
according to your buddy, it was a historically bad league last year, so conference record carries zero significance apparently
wait'll you see my party tricks
My only counter would be Torvik had 6 Big teams in the final Top 50 last season
(ESPN's BPI also had 6)
This season Torvik projects 11 Big teams in the top 50.
(I don't nec agree, but that's just one man's computer nerd rankings)
so there's at least hope that the middle is much improved.
In the preseason last year, Torvik had 10 Big Ten teams in the top 52. Maybe Torvik's preseason projections just suck?wait'll you see my party tricks
My only counter would be Torvik had 6 Big teams in the final Top 50 last season
(ESPN's BPI also had 6)
This season Torvik projects 11 Big teams in the top 50.
(I don't nec agree, but that's just one man's computer nerd rankings)
so there's at least hope that the middle is much improved.
according to your buddy, it was a historically bad league last year, so conference record carries zero significance apparentlyI was going by conference, but yes you are correct on the overall.
Thanks. Those projections might actually be worse than the lunatic Illinois fan's (don't remember his name) projections before last year. And no, I don't mean you this time.
It was the 4th straight year that KenPom has had the Big Ten either 4th or 5th among power conferences. Maybe it's the Big Ten's new norm?Do you really think wasn't really bad last year?
Weird how they try and spin things. IU finished better in the B10. I said 6-9th and a bubble team. I thought we'd be on the right side of the bubble but was wrong. Everything else I was right.IU improved their standings last year after losing three players to the pros.
It's interesting how it is spin when an opinion contrary to yours but fact when an opinion that you are in agreement with. Solid stance there.Weird how they try and spin things. IU finished better in the B10. I said 6-9th and a bubble team. I thought we'd be on the right side of the bubble but was wrong. Everything else I was right.
It was the 4th straight year that KenPom has had the Big Ten either 4th or 5th among power conferences. Maybe it's the Big Ten's new norm?Do you really think wasn't really bad last year?
http://barttorvik.com/conf.php?year=2019&conf=B10
Saw this on the Iowa free board @jwardelt
Edit: http://barttorvik.com/conodds.php?conf=B10
Odds for conference championship
We're in a B10 thread. Talking about the B10. When discussing predictions from last year IN THE B10, I feel it's appropriate to talk about prediction made ABOUT THE B10. Yeah, such a crazy stance. Sucks for you guys who like to constantly harp on how "wrong" I am or was when evidence points to the contrary.It's interesting how it is spin when an opinion contrary to yours but fact when an opinion that you are in agreement with. Solid stance there.
We're listed 2nd. Is that bad?
it wasn't awful or great, it was what the big ten has been for several years now. it sent a team to the title game, so it definitely wasn't historically bad.Do you really think wasn't really bad last year?
it wasn't awful or great, it was what the big ten has been for several years now. it sent a team to the title game, so it definitely wasn't historically bad.
With a historically awful draw.
I think it helps p5 teams because high school rankings play in to his algorithms.In the preseason last year, Torvik had 10 Big Ten teams in the top 52. Maybe Torvik's preseason projections just suck?
I'd take it as a sign you'll be much, much better than last season. But, you already knew all that.We're listed 2nd. Is that bad?
Where are my posts about how wrong you are? I'll hang up and wait for your response.We're in a B10 thread. Talking about the B10. When discussing predictions from last year IN THE B10, I feel it's appropriate to talk about prediction made ABOUT THE B10. Yeah, such a crazy stance. Sucks for you guys who like to constantly harp on how "wrong" I am or was when evidence points to the contrary.
it’ll be a transition year but with Carsen (who I think should be preseason BTPOY), who knows? I think tournament is definitely attainable.
Where are my posts about how wrong you are? I'll hang up and wait for your response.
Right now the backcourt is a little thin at PG. Isaiah Washington is the only true PG. At SG, we have two Seniors though. Dupree McBrayer and grad transfer, Brock Stull. If we don't add anyone else, I suppose McBrayer and Coffey will share backup PG duties. Need Washington to stay healthy, otherwise we are in a conundrum.
Umm no not at all. You couldn't be more wrong. I don't visit their board. Any purdue board you visit will know snu for his widely known reputation as a troll. Only iu people that know me are here. My name is a play on some guy who used to post on g&b under the name johnnyboiler who was an obvious iu fan.To be fair, aren’t you the one that does the exact same thing but from the other side of the coin?
With a historically awful draw.
Also an expert on Purdue fans...your talents are limitless.He has been and will continue to. I’ll lose to Purdue twice in the regular season every year if it means winning the conference tournament title and making the final 4.
When you’re a Purdue fan you set your goals a little lower apparently.
see that a lot of Purdue fans aren't expecting a big drop off next year
see that a lot of Purdue fans aren't expecting a big drop off next year
Wat
Also an expert on Purdue fans...your talents are limitless.
We will see, hopefully everyone stays healthy as that definitely hurt a lot of teams last year.I really hope you're wrong. The top might not be as sexy (looking, yet), but the middle is so much better (imo).
We will see, hopefully everyone stays healthy as that definitely hurt a lot of teams last year.I really hope you're wrong. The top might not be as sexy (looking, yet), but the middle is so much better (imo).
On an unrelated note, is Malik Hall a priority recruit for Kansas? A top 50 player from Kansas I would expect to be a KU lock, but everything I've read so far has Oregon leading. He's spoken pretty highly about Purdue, but I'm not holding my breath against Altman, and definitely think we'll be out if Self pushes hard for him. Curious what you've heard from the KU boards/insiders.