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NPOY - Poll

Who wins NPOY

  • Broome

    Votes: 14 63.6%
  • Flagg

    Votes: 8 36.4%

  • Total voters
    22
lol at the Kentucky kids pumping the SEC in every thread . You can definitely tell who the rafter regulars are.
 
lol at the Kentucky kids pumping the SEC in every thread . You can definitely tell who the rafter regulars are.
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Auburn ranked opponents: #2 Duke (L), #3 UF (L), #4 UH (W), #5 TENN (W), #6 Bama (W), #9 ISU (W), #14 MIZ (W), #18 MEM (W), #20 PUR (W)

Broome avgs: 20.2/11.6/3.6/0.9/2.8/51.4 FG%

Duke ranked opponents: #1 AUB (W), #13 Clem (L), #17 UK (L), #19 LOU (W), #22 Zona (W)-

Flagg avgs: 22.0/9.2/2.2/1.6/1.8/43 FG%

Against ranked opponents, Flagg has Broome in points and steals. Broome leads all other categories. And Broome has played more top 10 opponents than Flagg has played top 25 opponents.
 
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if we're gonna start using stuff like that then I'm giving extra credit to the guy who played most of the year at 17 years old vs the guy who turns 23 in July.

Doesn't matter how bad the ACC is, Flagg is still playing every night vs men often 3-5 years more physically mature than him. He's a boy playing vs young men. Don't care how bad the ACC is, that's way more impressive than old man Broome beating up on guys who are pretty much all younger than him.


So you are adding age to the DEI equation for NPOY?

This could be the dumbest take I've heard in awhile.
 
So you are adding age to the DEI equation for NPOY?

This could be the dumbest take I've heard in awhile.
100% adding age. If people want to add SOS than why can't age be added? What great teams was Broome playing against when he was Flaggs age and he was some nobody freshman at Morehead?
 
100% adding age. If people want to add SOS than why can't age be added? What great teams was Broome playing against when he was Flaggs age and he was some nobody freshman at Morehead?
We aren't suggesting Broome should have been NPOY when he was Flagg's age. I believe the award is who is more deserving today.
 
We aren't suggesting Broome should have been NPOY when he was Flagg's age. I believe the award is who is more deserving today.

I agree, but I also believe that contextual factors like age difference should be considered.
 
That old saying act like you been here before applies to the SEC homers because they can’t, it’s uncharted territory

Every passing day on here is turning me into a hater. If the SEC bombs in the tourney you all are going to hear it.
 
That old saying act like you been here before applies to the SEC homers because they can’t, it’s uncharted territory

Every passing day on here is turning me into a hater. If the SEC bombs in the tourney you all are going to hear it.
Deservedly so. But lots of metrics pointing to this being the best conference of all time. It’s not just honking. It’s facts.
 
That old saying act like you been here before applies to the SEC homers because they can’t, it’s uncharted territory

Every passing day on here is turning me into a hater. If the SEC bombs in the tourney you all are going to hear it.
Fair enough.
 
I don't remember this being a problem when Anthony Davis went 16-0 in league play and the next best team had like 12 losses. 😆
Damnit man. Don't make me defend Kentucky.

2012 UK played 6 conference games against tourney teams (excluding SECT) out of 16 conference games. or 37.5%

This Duke team is likely to play 4 out of 20 conference games against tourney teams. It's really not a close comparison.
 
Anthony Davis pretty much won every award in existence that year. Duke and Flagg could do the same thing but they haven’t yet.

He was the best player, no one can't argue that.
Deservedly so. But lots of metrics pointing to this being the best conference of all time. It’s not just honking. It’s facts.


Metrics doesn't equate to wins. The SEC was good last year, the Big 12 the year before that and we all know what happened.
 
I don't remember this being a problem when Anthony Davis went 16-0 in league play and the next best team had like 12 losses. 😆
Flagg can't touch what AD did in 2012, not even close. Especially defensively.

Second, who was ADs biggest competition in 2012? I don't even remember. Did he have someone like Broome to be compared against? Don't think your analogy works in this case.
 
Flagg can't touch what AD did in 2012, not even close. Especially defensively.

Second, who was ADs biggest competition in 2012? I don't even remember. Did he have someone like Broome to be compared against? Don't think your analogy works in this case.
Wasn't a KU player? Robinson? IIRC, UNC's Marshall was up there as well. Too bad he got hurt.
 
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Damnit man. Don't make me defend Kentucky.

2012 UK played 6 conference games against tourney teams (excluding SECT) out of 16 conference games. or 37.5%

This Duke team is likely to play 4 out of 20 conference games against tourney teams. It's really not a close comparison.

4 and 6 aren't close?

Per Kenpom, there were three SEC teams in the top 60 that year.
 
Deservedly so. But lots of metrics pointing to this being the best conference of all time. It’s not just honking. It’s facts.

"Best of all time" is far from a fact.

Plus, it assumes that this year's field compares well to past years. I'm pretty sure any team from this field would get smoked by the great teams of the past.
 
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