Nick Saban Vs UCF

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  1. Kace-1

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    13-0, division champs, and conference champs is earning it. Bama should try to win those things UCF accomplished.

    And nobody "honors and respects" this corrupt system designed by the ESP5N cartel.

    #UCFacts

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    I see you speak for everyone now...what am I thinking about right now?
     
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    “If you honor and respect the system that we have, (despite) some of the imperfections that you understand that the system has, then you wouldn’t do something out of respect for the system that we have,”

    Yes, by all means honor the system that is designed to exclude your program from competing rather than bring to light the imperfections in hope of changing them . Makes sense coming from a guy whose team gets special consideration under the system.
     
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    You’re confusing special treatment with earning respect, which is what Alabama has done every season for the past decade.
     
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    Yes that system that takes into account what Alabama did for the last 10 years to give them special treatment to forgive what happens on the field during the season in question. My point exactly. Not a playoff. An invitational.
     
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    There is so much irony in an Alabama coach criticizing another university for claiming a National Championship. Alabama football is built off of claiming these championships. That's the UCFunniest part of his whole statement.

    #UCFacts
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    Saw this yesterday. I view UCF claim as a protest against a deliberately unfair system. That said, if playoff berths are earned, why is Saban on ESPN campaigning for a berth leading up to committee selections?
     
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    Alabama was the number 1 ranked team for the majority of the season and all of the sudden they lose their last game to a rival and they suddenly aren’t deserving? The playoff games confirmed what every objective person already knew about Alabama. Not everyone gets to breeze through an AAC conference schedule.
     
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    Maybe your team will get an opportunity to play the Crimson Tide one day. That would be great, wouldn't it? :D
     
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    You know a lot of people throw stones at Bama’s WWII era 1941 claim, with good reason. But I’d like to hear your take on why you think the others aren’t valid?
     
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    Replace it with UGA...

    Bama's run is over.
     
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    Hilarious, since the program Saban runs literally touts numerous titles that are "claimed". I mean, the hypocrisy is ridiculous... but of course that follow-up question wasn't asked...
     
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    The rampant jealousy and ignorance in this thread is indeed amusing.
     
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    Fixed it for you
     
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    We were awarded a title just as much as you were for a few of the ones you "claim". You disagree?
     
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    I'm not against the system based on who wins.
     
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    This article summarizes it perfectly. They have claimed several more than just the 1941 year. The built their program on this, and are upset at UCF? Don't let your fandom get in the way from seeing the true colors of your university.

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-national-titles-with-some-sketchy-counting/

    #UCFacts
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    Potato logic at its finest from Tricky Nick.

    #UCFacts
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    Where’s your trophy? That same source also said Alabama was the NC when Clemson won it and said ND was the NC when Bama beat them...use your brain man.
     
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    FBS MNCs aren't earned. Laughing

    I suggest Saban peddle his snake oil elsewhere.
     
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    I’m well aware of Alabama’s history on giving their past teams the credit they deserved. What I’m asking you is, how do you think the Championships awarded to Alabama are not valid?
     
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    Better question, how do you think that UCF winning the National Championsip isn't valid? They surpassed Bama in every category:
    - Undefeated
    - Conference Championship
    - Plus the obvious one they defeated the mutual opponent they each played (Auburn).

    #UCFacts
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    Someone awarded UCF a title too, and although Bama was awarded theirs ,they didn't claim 5 of them until the 80s. One day they claimed 6 the next day 11. 1941 is worse than what UCF is claiming.
     
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    Where are your trophies from all of your claimed titles?
     
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    Here are my top 4 reasons:
    1. UCF did not win the CFP
    2. Auburn was only ranked 10th in the rankings during the Peach Bowl, so the best team UCF beat was not even in the top tier of ranked teams.
    3. The selector that proclaimed UCF champions also proclaimed Bama champs in 2016 and ND champs in 2012 (which is ridiculous and makes them not credible as a sole selector).
    4. Your own Head Coach doesn’t believe UCF is National Champs
     
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    A poll ranks you #1 and that's good enough for you to claim a title...
    A poll ranks UCF #1 and that doesn't count...

    That's called hypocrisy...
     
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    Alabama has trophy case pictures you can google.
     
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    Alabama decided to give those teams the recognition they deserved because they were awarded those championships. Just because Alabama didn’t make it a priority until later makes them no less legitimate. And yes, the overwhelming majority of Bama fans will agree with you about the 1941 NC.
     
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    What polls are ranking UCF #1? That matrix y’all care so much about is not a poll, it’s an algorithm. Alabama didn’t need to rest on their ranking. They thrashed the #1 team in the nation in round 1 of the playoff and beat a solid UGA team in the Championship game.
     
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    how despised UCF has become by all the holier than thou media types, other coaches, and fans bc of the claim says more about the Sport itself than UCF. Corruption and decisions based on 'Perception' or Tradition. It's no different than the WWE and why I am disliking the Sport more every year.
     
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    Then why is there such an effort to speak out against UCF's claim? Is it because it's so unconventional to do these days? I realize that Bama won the playoff and has the rightful claim to the title for the system in place, but why care enough to keep going on and on about it. Every time some buys Bama gear with 11-17 on it, it is inclusive of 41 and look just awkward.
     
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    I think you people are missing the point. The issue is not whether or not UCF's claim is valid, the issue is that the CFP system is not valid. It awards access based solely upon subjective criteria rather than a true playoff system. Despite promises to the contrary it is now proven that even the most successful season will not be enough for programs like UCF to have access to the playoffs. For Nick Saban to state that this system should be"honored" by UCF is clearly just self serving and without merit. Until there is a true playoff system this discussion will be had every year to greater and lessor degrees based upon who is left out and why. Subjective criteria will always be subject to controversy. I have yet to see a legitimate reason not to just bag the bowl games and have a true playoff with conference champs.
     
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    You claim a title from 1925 b/c the Houlgate ranked you #1 that year... yet the Houlgate wasn't even created until 1927, lol..

    Just stop... lol. At least own up to the hypocrisy of it all, lol...
     
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    I don’t own any 17 NC gear because I think it’s really 16. So you’ll get no argument from me there. The only reason I’m talking about this is because I’m in an argumentative mood ;). I can really care less. But to think an algorithm can award you a Championship is too far fetched to me. Their own coach who won all those games last year, & who appeared to really love his team, thinks the claim is bogus.
     
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    At least it won’t be a boring offseason. Y’all carry on.
     
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    He is recruiting for Nebraska now, anything he says now doesn't have any truth to what he really would have said/done had he stayed at UCF.
     
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    Maybe is was a situation where someone asked him did he feel his team deserved to be in the playoff. Do you expect him to say absolutely not? He is not an idiot.
     
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