NCAA to Allow Athletes to Profit from Name and Likeness?

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  1. Leweman

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    NCAA President Mark Emmert and the Board of Governors announced Tuesday that Big East Commissioner Val Ackerman and Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith will head a new working group on the topic.

    "This group will bring together diverse opinions from the membership — from presidents and commissioners to student-athletes — that will examine the NCAA’s position on name, image and likeness benefits and potentially propose rule modifications tethered to education," Ackerman said in a statement. "We believe the time is right for these discussions and look forward to a thorough assessment of the many complexities involved in this area."

    https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/05/14/ncaa-working-group-profits-name-image-likeness-student-athletes

    I have no idea how this will be put in place. Seems like this would be opening a big can of worms.
     
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    If the player cannot profit off their name and likeness, then neither should the University.
    Can't have it both ways.
     
  3. Leweman

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    Aren't they benefiting from the school name more than the other way around?
     
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    So do we get our wins back?
     
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    This....there is no benefit for a school to pay players.
     
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    Does this mean the NCAA video games will come back? I think that is what most are worried about anyway.
     
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    Been a long time coming!
     
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    I guess eventually, players will just be employees and won’t have to play like they’re students.
     
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    As long as it's the same amount across the board. The holder for UAB needs to be paid as much as the Trevor Lawrence if both of their likenesses are used.
     
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    When schools sell jerseys of specific players but keep every penny, that's a problem.
     
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    Hi my name is Uncle Phil, I’m one of the richest men in the world, founder and chairman emeritus of the most powerful company in sports. I’d like to pay you for your likeness as an Oregon Duck. Sounds great!

    :D
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Will this be retro?
     
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    There are two options:

    1. Require the athelete to earn a degree, or attend for atleast three years, and not pay them. They need to be actual student atheletes, and no colluding with the professional leagues to have an age requirement (other than 18) before you can go pro.

    2. Continue to force them to go college through collusion induced arbitrary age requirements for the two big sports. In this case its clear they are not student athletes and they should either be paid or allowed to profit from their name and likeness.
     
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    Didn't over half of the juniors that declared for the draft this year go undrafted?
     
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    And simple solution here is to not allow the university from profiting from their likeness either. That way nobody is profiting from the likeness. That simple. The school can sell jerseys with numbers on it but not names. Because the numbers are reused. Problem solved.
     
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    I think they only sell jerseys with the number 1 and the current year now.
     
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    I knew Spencer Strassmore would get things done
     
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    This was how it was until very recently. Having said that #8 for Oregon regardless of whether his name was on it was the most popular by a country mile.
     
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    Like #15 Jersey for UF
     
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    Juniors are allowed to go pro and fail if they want. That is my Option 1. I like how College Baseball has it setup. You can go pro after three years and are allowed to see where you would be drafted without penalty at that point. You can also go pro without going to college. The individual gets to make the choice, but once the choice is made you are fully committed to that path.
     
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    I just think it will cause a lot of 5* or 4* guys to make a really bad decision for their future. Maybe 1 player per recruiting class is "NFL ready" enough to be 2nd string with a year of weight training and coaching, but you'd have far more than that jumping to the draft.

    We already have a problem with former pros going bankrupt. It would be even greater if we allowed these guys to opt straight to the NFL. This is just my opinion, though.
     
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    Pretty sure it’s probably happening now. How bout we go the other way and not allow jerseys to be sold to fans? Deal?
     
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    Should be, you deserve your cut, even if I don’t like you, you made money for your school.
     
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    Any chance that instead of paying players they could lower tv bills, cost of tickets and merchandise for consumers?
     
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    That is why you allow them to go through the draft process. They do not become ineligible until they sign a contract.

    That way they are fully informed. Bankruptcy is a seperate issue.

    I just feel this way the NCAA has a valid excuse for not paying players. You do not like playing for free? You could of gone Pro and see how that played out.

    I don't think it would affect football that much really. Basketball in its current state is a mockery of amatuer college athletics. NCAA has no foundation to stand on with its student-athlete motto when you have one and done athletes. I find it insulting everytime they say "student athlete".
     
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    Don't care. Do we get EA NCAA football back?
     
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    Why not let the free market decide?
     
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    Capitalism, free markets, and property rights rule. Communism and collusion drool. SmokinSmile
     
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    Its sad this silly issue shut down the best football video game series.
     
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    There are a lot of coaches getting ahead of this thing. I don't think it'll ever work. Some coaches/boosters have their own businesses. It would be easy to sell recruits to schools with deep pockets.
     
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    Lets test it!

    Offer jerseys with Oregon color scheme and number. Offer another jersey with a different color scheme, but with the players name and number.

    Who sells more?!? I honestly do not know.
     
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    Thats what the rule already is, isnt it?
     
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    Trick question...Oregon uniforms are EVERY color scheme
     
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    Screw that, we’d NEVER wear Purple and Gold...
     
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    Just pay people for their property. Problem solved.
     
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    It's the commercialization that I've been warning against. I've tried to tell you guys that if you keep pressing for a playoff (championship) you are going to ruin it
    These are amateurs. They shouldn't get paid. They should probably be more focused on school anyway. At least until they are 21.
    Football really isn't that important. It's an extracurricular activity. I think if they keep pressing for a playoff it will kill it. Literally.
    I do. Maybe nobody else thinks so but I do.
     
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