I have been firmly in the “the champion won’t have an asterisk next to their name” camp, but if even a couple top 10 teams have to forfeit, the champion will have an asterisk, especially if they advance via forfeit.
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This puts me even more on the “no conference tournaments” bandwagon. Just seems like a big risk that close to the dance.
At best only 10% chance a top 10 team wins it all. I don’t see where 2 missing because of covid means anything.
There’s really no other way to deal with it in a big tournament setting.
For that reason I don’t see a need for conference tournaments. Let teams have the best shot possible of being healthy.
But tv money won’t let that happen
Be my stance all year. No way you can call this years champion legit compared to the others.
You can go back and read older threads. I’ve had this opinion since the season started and before UK sucked. Posters will back meI mean, you might be right but awfully easy for you to say in your worst season in years.
You can go back and read older threads. I’ve had this opinion since the season started and before UK sucked. Posters will back me
Only way to do it. No other straight forward solutions.I have been firmly in the “the champion won’t have an asterisk next to their name” camp, but if even a couple top 10 teams have to forfeit, the champion will have an asterisk, especially if they advance via forfeit.
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I don't blame you brother, as a true fan you get it when the opportunity presents it's self. astric don't mean nothing in our hearts.And, like I said, you might be right. But if Illinois can beat six teams in March and cap off a good basketball history with our first National Title, assuming we get past good teams, I will be damn proud, and I’m sure other fan bases will feel the same. Let’s wait to see if there are tons of cancellations first ... a regular Tournament with none of them would be 110% asterisk free, IMO.
Just ask UL fans.I don't blame you brother, as a true fan you get it when the opportunity presents it's self. astric don't mean nothing in our hearts.
I mean, it still wouldn’t be a normal tournament. No traveling and hardly no fans. But I understand. Take what you can get. Even ignoring the canceled games and short handed teams throughout the season.And, like I said, you might be right. But if Illinois can beat six teams in March and cap off a good basketball history with our first National Title, assuming we get past good teams, I will be damn proud, and I’m sure other fan bases will feel the same. Let’s wait to see if there are tons of cancellations first ... a regular Tournament with none of them would be 110% asterisk free, IMO.
TruthYou can go back and read older threads. I’ve had this opinion since the season started and before UK sucked. Posters will back me
Truth again. We watched the games. We played, we won.Just ask UL fans.
I mean, it still wouldn’t be a normal tournament. No traveling and hardly no fans. But I understand. Take what you can get. Even ignoring the canceled games and short handed teams throughout the season.
You absolutely enjoy it. Perhaps my “take what you can get” comment came off wrong. I’ve never said the winner shouldn’t enjoy it, just that it will not be looked at in the same light as other winners by some fans. Me in that category of some. And others on here not.What else could you do though if your team wins it all? Not enjoy it? Discredit the players bc of a global pandemic that has disrupted every aspect of our lives?
If Kansas wins there will be a huge asterisk next it that says, ‘how in the fu$k.”
You absolutely enjoy it. Perhaps my “take what you can get” comment came off wrong. I’ve never said the winner shouldn’t enjoy it, just that it will not be looked at in the same light as other winners by some fans. Me in that category of some. And others on here not.
Agreed, why risk the conference elites by playing the also rans.This puts me even more on the “no conference tournaments” bandwagon. Just seems like a big risk that close to the dance.
I don't blame you brother, as a true fan you get it when the opportunity presents it's self. astric don't mean nothing in our hearts.
I mean if Michigan wins it all, but both Gonzaga and Baylor (or really any two contenders) have COVID issues in the Sweet 16 and have to forfeit there will clearly be an asterisk despite Michigan winning 6 games.
A forfeit and an upset are hardly the same. If someone beats you on the court so be it but it would be a shame for any contender to have to forfeit. It would be a shame for any team to forfeit but especially a top seed.
Right because there’s always the 4 best regular season teams in the final 4. To me it doesn’t matter, it’s a one loss tournament, favorites lose early a lot, it being covid related makes the result the same with a different excuse.
So LSU advancing past Baylor to the Sweet 16 via forfeit instead of winning a 40 minute game is the the same to you? Yikes.
The diff is when a contender gets upset, they still had their chance, they just blew it.
Of a contender has to forfeit, they don’t even get a chance.
just not the same.
Do you realize how many champions in every sport get injured and don’t make the Olympic? They don’t put asterisks on the Olympic trophy.The diff is when a contender gets upset, they still had their chance, they just blew it.
Of a contender has to forfeit, they don’t even get a chance.
just not the same.
Do you realize this is a team game? And anything non-covid related could happen and wouldn’t change anything, like if a stud goes down injured for a contender, or upsets like you say.Do you realize how many champions in every sport get injured and don’t make the Olympic? They don’t put asterisks on the Olympic trophy.