Because eff the NCAA and universities. Slave labor is coming to an end.
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I would much rather kids that have no intention of going to school go to the G-League. It's not fair to watch these student athletes who are taking a full academic course load compete against these #semesterhood kids who are taking BS classes for one semester to remain academically eligible. The fact that these OAD factories haven't won anything since 2015 is pretty embarrassing when you truly think about it.
I would much rather kids that have no intention of going to school go to the G-League. It's not fair to watch these student athletes who are taking a full academic course load compete against these #semesterhood kids who are taking BS classes for one semester to remain academically eligible. The fact that these OAD factories haven't won anything since 2015 is pretty embarrassing when you truly think about it.
3 years removed from their first final four and UofSC fans are giving up on basketball.
Thanks for reminding for South Carolina has been to a final four more recently than Kentucky asshole.
Just for completion, here are all the schools that have been to a Final Four more recently than Kentucky
Villanova (2016, 2018)
UNC (2016, 2017)
Oklahoma (2016)
Syracuse (2016)
South Carolina (2017)
Gonzaga (2017)
Oregon (2017)
Michigan (2018)
Kansas (2018)
Loyola (2018)
Virginia (2019)
Texas Tech (2019)
Michigan State (2019)
Auburn (2019)
If the NCAA adapts and evolves I'm cool with it sticking around. I love college basketball way too much to see it be swallowed up by the G League. If kids can make money in college, no reason they shouldn't want to play college ball. Much more exposure and national spotlight if you play at a Kentucky or Duke then some random team in the development basketball league.
Just for completion, here are all the schools that have been to a Final Four more recently than Kentucky
Villanova (2016, 2018)
UNC (2016, 2017)
Oklahoma (2016)
Syracuse (2016)
South Carolina (2017)
Gonzaga (2017)
Oregon (2017)
Michigan (2018)
Kansas (2018)
Loyola (2018)
Virginia (2019)
Texas Tech (2019)
Michigan State (2019)
Auburn (2019)
jhmossy got a hardon for UK I see..LOLOLOLOLOLI wasn't looking for your input thanks.
Also this reminded me Duke gave Zion and a house and still couldn't make the final 4. #sad
I'm happy for the player to get paid.
But for you folks talking about one and does only going to class for a semester, if that was true UK and Duke would be working with reduced scholarships due to APR.
I wasn't looking for your input thanks.
Also this reminded me Duke gave Zion and a house and still couldn't make the final 4. #sad
Which reminds me that uk did the same for cousins and didn’t make a final four either.
I think any major basketball school's posted test scores and academic grades for their basketball team are all about as reliable as China saying they only had 82,000 Covid cases and 3500 deaths.I'm happy for the player to get paid.
But for you folks talking about one and does only going to class for a semester, if that was true UK and Duke would be working with reduced scholarships due to APR.
I had UK athletes in some of my elective classes, and those dudes worked harder and came to class more often than a lot of the normal students. They didn't really have a choice since they had tutors and people that came by class randomly to ensure they were there. Obviously they are not (mostly) going for engineering course loads or anything near that difficulty, but their grades were earned and legit.I think any major basketball school's posted test scores and academic grades for their basketball team are all about as reliable as China saying they only had 82,000 Covid cases and 3500 deaths.
They may enroll in easier majors, but so do lots of normal students. From my experience, athletes were not treated any differently in the classes they were actually enrolled in than the other students. I had basketball players and football players in debeate/public speaking classes and they were not treated any differently than me. To speak to your point, the classes were stupid easy compared to my CS workload. That does not make their grades questionable, it just means they aren't going to be MD's or engineers.Yea but when colleges offer courses like coaching volleyball and scuba diving, if u believe that most of the players that aren’t planning on being in school long enough to graduate are taking a regular students course load, u are mistaken. Not to mention u only have to take around 12 hours a semester (3-4 classes) to be considered a full time student. (Was the case at Murray State, other schools might have different requirements but I doubt they are much more stringent.
Now there will always be outliers, athletes that have academic interests as well, but the majority of P5 basketball players’ courseloads wouldn’t even remotely compare to a normal students. Plus in most places they get their own tutor.
I went to lowly Murray State and even there the basketball players were set up with the easiest classes and/or teachers available. Actually took coaching volleyball and coaching soccer with a few players lol.
Those tutors are there for them night and day and basically do their work for them. It's not as much them working as hard as they can as it is the university making sure they pass and stay eligible. Those tutors job is to basically oversee everything the athlete does and make sure they "get it" no matter how simple it is. In some cases it means doing their work for them. My source being me, who was a student-athlete at KU in the 1990's and who had tutors there. I don't see why that would have changed much by now.I had UK athletes in some of my elective classes, and those dudes worked harder and came to class more often than a lot of the normal students. They didn't really have a choice since they had tutors and people that came by class randomly to ensure they were there. Obviously they are not (mostly) going for engineering course loads or anything near that difficulty, but their grades were earned and legit.
I would assume most major programs do something similar.
Yeah, you are correct here. If it's in-class work then they gotta do what everybody else does. My post above is mainly for the basic math and english writing type classes. The "core classes" I guess you could call them that all need to take in the beginning.They may enroll in easier majors, but so do lots of normal students. From my experience, athletes were not treated any differently in the classes they were actually enrolled in than the other students. I had basketball players and football players in debeate/public speaking classes and they were not treated any differently than me. To speak to your point, the classes were stupid easy compared to my CS workload. That does not make their grades questionable, it just means they aren't going to be MD's or engineers.
I agree the tutors make it much much easier easier. But them "doing the work for them" was not my experience, at least in the classes I was in. Lones Sieber (infamous to UK football fans) and some offensive lineman whose name escapes me at the moment were probably my hardest working group members on group projects of these classes.Those tutors are there for them night and day and basically do their work for them. It's not as much them working as hard as they can as it is the university making sure they pass and stay eligible. Those tutors job is to basically oversee everything the athlete does and make sure they "get it" no matter how simple it is. In some cases it means doing their work for them. My source being me, who was a student-athlete at KU in the 1990's and who had tutors there. I don't see why that would have changed much by now.
I'm not saying this applies to literally every basketball player but I'm 100% positive it happens to the ones that are only there as a stepping stone. I am a little more cynical than others in how I see universities operating with their money making athletes though but I mainly attribute that to seeing how they do things firsthand.