If Texas and Oklahoma were to go to the Big 10

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  1. crazyqx83

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    I'd guess the ACC grabs TCU and maybe Kansas (basketball)
     
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    Man.. B1G would be stacked. Maybe too stacked
     
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    I doubt it happens. Texas’ ego is too large. They can’t run that conference with their influence. They’d just be one giant among other giants (OSU Michigan) and the other giants are more entrenched already.

    At the same time, it would address the biggest current issue with the Big 10. The Big 10 West is just a small notch above the AAC. Add Texas and Oklahoma to a potentially resurgent Nebraska and that’s a legit division and a conference that could challenge the SEC for the title of strongest conference year in and year out. I’d imagine you’d see Purdue come to the East.

    East

    OSU
    Michigan
    PSU
    Michigan St
    Indiana
    Maryland
    Rutgers
    Purdue

    West

    Wisconsin
    Nebraska
    Minnesota
    Iowa
    Northwestern
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Illinois

    That’s a damn strong conference
     
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    We hear this rumor every other year ...

    I'll believe it when I see it. The source is probably someone on twitter and it's just a rehash for clicks.
     
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    I think Texas just likes to have their ego stroked having articles written about how desirable they are because of the coin they make.
     
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    There is no upside for the .Sooners or Whornes to do so....

    More likely that Bama would go to the Big 12...
     
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    Yeah ... who knows. Twitter gossip is written as "news" these days so I really take these articles with a grain of salt unless they have some hard sources.
     
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    Of course there is upside ... money and resources.
     
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    Both are already making a profit they give to the university, both already have recruiting under control, both have reputations that won’t be enhanced and may be denigrated....just don’t see any upside....maybe you could explain what you see as upside...
     
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    Member schools would attain a contract that would rival the current number negotiated by the SEC. Additionally, there would be another financial windfall for the Big Ten Network as they get into more households adding the states of Texas and Oklahoma. There’d probably be an opportunity to save the floundering Longhorn Network and merge it into some spin off of a second channel for the BTN. It would be a lot more money.
     
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    The question isn't whether they NEED the B1G ... you're questioning whether there would be an upside in joining. The obvious answer is, yes.

    More money and access to the CIC are two good examples.
     
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    UCF, USF, Cinci, Houston, and Memphis bail on the AAC, Boise bails on the MW... and join up with those teams.
     
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    I totally forgot about the CIC and all those research dollars available to the universities.
     
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    Its the single greatest thing the conference has ever done from an academic point of view.

    Big Ten schools are starting to outrank Ivy league schools in many programs because of it.
     
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    That’s an entirely different conversation and we’re starting to go off on a tangent but those rankings you cite are based on graduate level programs not under grad programs. None of them can touch the Ivies in under grad level programs in true value. Schools have just been able to figure out how to manipulate the US News and World Report algorithm.
     
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    More like bloggers know the best click bait. Texas, nor OU, are going anywhere until 2025 due to B12 grant of rights.
     
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    I wasn't speaking on "degree value". I was speaking on actual applied research, which is what the CIC is for.

    No one thinks that a degree from Illinois is more valuable than a degree from MIT ... lol
     
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    Isn't Oklahoma bound by state law to Okie Light? Or is that just some other speculation from a while ago?

    That said, thats the start of leagues. You'd have:

    East:
    Maryland
    Penn State
    Rutgers
    Ohio State

    Mideast:
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Minnesota
    Wisconsin

    Midwest:
    Indiana
    Purdue
    Illinois
    Northwestern

    West:
    Iowa
    Oklahoma
    Texas
    Nebraska

    Pod scheduling, maybe even do permanent rivalries (like tOSU/Michigan), but if not why not an NFL esqe schedule where its 3 division games, 4 against a whole division and 2 against someone who finished with a similar place in their division as you. I'll get hate, but meh, its different and honestly everyone would play each other within 4 years.

    That said, if this scenario happened (extremely unlikely on all ends), the Big XII would be dead and the AAC would swope in, pick up TCU (or Tech, although I think TCU gets the nod), WVU, Kansas, and Okie State creating:

    North:
    UCONN
    Temple
    Cincinnati
    West Virginia

    East:
    East Carolina
    Navy
    USF
    UCF

    South:
    Memphis
    Tulane
    Kansas
    Oklahoma State

    West:
    Tulsa
    Houston
    SMU
    TCU
     
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    I could see the PAC adding Kansas. If we wanted to go to 16, we could add KSU, Texas Tech and TCU.

    Might have to move Colorado and Utah to the North.

    North:
    Washington
    Washington State
    Oregon
    Oregon State
    Stanford
    California
    Utah
    Colorado

    South:
    USC
    UCLA
    Arizona
    Arizona State
    Kansas
    Kansas State
    Texas Tech
    TCU

    ISU and Baylor head to the AAC
     
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    A conference with teams from Florida and Idaho? Good luck with that
     
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    Good luck telling the folks in Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin that they now play in the middle east.
     
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    The driving distances would be a drag.
     
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    Both would turn into 8-4/7-5 teams. Look at Nebraska.
     
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    A flight is a flight. Who cares if it’s 3 hours or 4?
     
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    Yeah, the people paying to fly your gymnastics team around the country is going to care.
     
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    Eh make it a club sport. College sports that don’t provide revenue should be anyways.
     
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    Meh. I think the more the Big 10 and Big 12 see discussions of the SEC getting 2 teams in the playoffs and them constantly sharing the tablescraps, the more likely it is that they try to figure out a way to combine their best teams so they don't get left out.

    Texas nor OU (nor both combined) are a bigger deal than the biggest deal in CFB over the past 10 years (and probably the best stretch ever). Sorry that makes you triggered.
     
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    B1G is a non starter for Texas. The fanbase would rather go independent before that happened. Texas Baseball is a big deal to the school. Not to mention the cultures are extremely opposite. ACC or PAC would be a better fit. Perfectly fine trying to entice Arkansas and bring back Missouri even though that's highly unlikely.

    It really doesn't matter what happens though. Texas and Oklahoma are not going to be left out either way.
     
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    OU and Texas get plenty from their third tier rights which they would have to give up to go Big 10. I doubt the Big 10 money could match the combo of third tier and Big 12 money for OU and Texas.....did the CiC do anything for Nebraska? No ....that negates your best attempt at an argument....

    The round robin football and double round robin for other sports works very well....

    No upside
     
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    Um, Nebraska lost their Texas recruiting ties with the move. How many Texas kids does Bama have post A&M in the SEC?
     
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    Ever hear of Title IX?
     
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    Texas, OU, KU and WVU all made more than SEC teams due to maintaining their 3rd tier rights.
     
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    losing effected recruiting more than change of conference for Nebraska imo. Same thing would happen to Oklahoma and Texas...though I think Oklahoma would fair better..at least at first.
     
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    Leave Texass out of this !
     
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    K-State, Texas Tech and TCU are not AAU schools, and TCU is a religious school to boot. Me thinks that the Pac should take Iowa State as one of their schools, as they are an AAU Member, the 3rd largest football stadium (and attendance), 2nd largest basketball arena (and attendance) in the current Big Xii, have an incredible travelling party, the nicest fans ever + add an extra state to the footprint. :)
     
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    Texas has been shit for nearly a decade is signing back to back top 10 classes and possibly both as top 5 classes.
     

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