historically, who are the top 10 football/basketball schools combined?

[WeAreDePaul]

I'm sure this is easy to look up, but I'm too lazy. What schools are historically the best at football and basketball combined?

Off the top of my head:
Michigan


Others that crossed my mind:
Oklahoma
Florida
Texas
UCLA
Oregon

 

[Demarcus Kidd-Miller]

Tough one. Mostly all the top Football programs have little to no success in basketball and vice versa. I'd lean more towards accomplished football schools though because the basketball blue bloods are absolutely terrible at football.

Michigan, Ohio State, and Florida would for sure be on there imo. Not really sure about the rest of the list.

We need @dukedevilz to do a top 50 football programs of all time list to go along with the basketball one so we can study and come up with a good answer.

 

[JimboBBN]

Alabama I would list. They don't have a great basketball program, but one of the GOAT football programs and they have a better basketball team than 99 percent of the other "football schools"

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Tough one. Mostly all the top Football programs have little to no success in basketball and vice versa. I'd lean more towards accomplished football schools though because the basketball blue bloods are absolutely terrible at football.

Michigan, Ohio State, and Florida would for sure be on there imo. Not really sure about the rest of the list.

We need @dukedevilz to do a top 50 football programs of all time list to go along with the basketball one so we can study and come up with a good answer.

Ohio St was the first that came to mind, I don't know many that have won a title in both.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Ohio St was the first that came to mind, I don't know many that have won a title in both.

Michigan has a much better basketball program and has won a natty in both. But yea, The Ohio State University would probably be a shoe in for top 10.

 

[boilerzz]

Here are the teams with multiple AP National Championships. Michigan and OSU are the two that clearly have had some NCAA success but there's not much there.

TEAM	TOTAL	SEASONS
Alabama	12	1961, 1964-1965, 1978-1979, 1992, 2009, 2011-2012, 2015, 2017, 2020
Notre Dame	8	1943, 1946-1947, 1949, 1966, 19733, 1977, 1988
Oklahoma	7	1950, 1955-1956, 1974-1975, 1985, 2000
Ohio State	5	1942, 1954, 1968, 2002, 2014
USC	5	1962, 1967, 1972, 2003-2004
Miami (FL)	5	1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Nebraska	4	19708-1971, 1994-1995
Minnesota	4	1936, 1940-1941, 1960
Michigan	3	1948, 1997, 2023
Georgia	3	1980, 2021-2022
LSU	3	1958, 2007, 2019
Clemson	3	1981, 2016, 2018
Florida State	3	1993, 1999, 2013
Florida	3	1996, 2006, 2008
Texas	3	1963, 1969, 2005
Auburn	2	1957, 2010
Tennessee	2	1951, 1998
Penn State	2	1982, 1986
Pittsburgh	2	1937, 1976
Army	2	1944-1945

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Here are the teams with multiple AP National Championships. Michigan and OSU are the two that clearly have had some NCAA success but there's not much there.

TEAM	TOTAL	SEASONS
Alabama	12	1961, 1964-1965, 1978-1979, 1992, 2009, 2011-2012, 2015, 2017, 2020
Notre Dame	8	1943, 1946-1947, 1949, 1966, 19733, 1977, 1988
Oklahoma	7	1950, 1955-1956, 1974-1975, 1985, 2000
Ohio State	5	1942, 1954, 1968, 2002, 2014
USC	5	1962, 1967, 1972, 2003-2004
Miami (FL)	5	1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Nebraska	4	19708-1971, 1994-1995
Minnesota	4	1936, 1940-1941, 1960
Michigan	3	1948, 1997, 2023
Georgia	3	1980, 2021-2022
LSU	3	1958, 2007, 2019
Clemson	3	1981, 2016, 2018
Florida State	3	1993, 1999, 2013
Florida	3	1996, 2006, 2008
Texas	3	1963, 1969, 2005
Auburn	2	1957, 2010
Tennessee	2	1951, 1998
Penn State	2	1982, 1986
Pittsburgh	2	1937, 1976
Army	2	1944-1945

So only 3 schools have won nattys in football and basketball. Michigan, Ohio State and Florida. Unless I’m missing someone. That’s pretty insane

 

[lurkeraspect84]

LOL @ Digger Phelps.

Although Notre Dame has two "Pre-Tournament Helm's Championships"

 

[dukedevilz]

The numbers in parenthesis include my CBB all-time rankings, and then a CFB ranking that I found (in that order). The number on the right-side is the average of the two. Florida might feel a little low for some, but the majority of their success has occurred since 1990. Their first conference title in football came in 1991; the first time they won a game in the NCAA Tournament was 1987.

1. Ohio State (10, 2) - 6.0
2. Michigan (12, 4) - 8.0
3. UCLA (2, 18) - 10.0
4. Michigan State (11, 19) - 15.0
5. Oklahoma (29, 3) - 16.0
6. Notre Dame (30, 5) - 17.5
7. Arkansas (17, 20) - 18.5
8. Florida (24, 15) - 19.5
9. Texas (35, 7) - 21.0
10. North Carolina (3, 40) - 21.5

The Big Ten currently occupies the top 4 spots. SEC has 4 of the next 5.

 

[ABVolsFan92]

Tennessee in this decade should be on this list we have been a top 10 program in football and basketball since 2021

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Tennessee in this decade should be on this list we have been a top 10 program in football and basketball since 2021

the list is objectively set so no, Tennnessee does not belong on that list. You need to do a little better than being a top basketball program for a whopping 3 years lol.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Ohio St is easily #1.

 

[winin11]

what about the last 5 years, it's tiring talking about basketball history. Bama has a great history in football, but it's also what you're trending now.. WAD @WeAreDePaul has nothing else to post about.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

what about the last 5 years, it's tiring talking about basketball history. Bama has a great history in football, but it's also what you're trending now.. WAD @WeAreDePaul has nothing else to post about.

no one gives a shit about a thread talking about history that only references the last 5 years.

But go ahead and start that thread and see how much traction it gets.

 

[GE Nole]

So only 3 schools have won nattys in football and basketball. Michigan, Ohio State and Florida. Unless I’m missing someone. That’s pretty insane

Michigan State has a football title right? And UCLA has a split national title. It’s a little tricky with football because in the era when final rankings were before bowl games you have a lot of claims.

 

[GE Nole]

The numbers in parenthesis include my CBB all-time rankings, and then a CFB ranking that I found (in that order). The number on the right-side is the average of the two. Florida might feel a little low for some, but the majority of their success has occurred since 1990. Their first conference title in football came in 1991; the first time they won a game in the NCAA Tournament was 1987.

1. Ohio State (10, 2) - 6.0
2. Michigan (12, 4) - 8.0
3. UCLA (2, 18) - 10.0
4. Michigan State (11, 19) - 15.0
5. Oklahoma (29, 3) - 16.0
6. Notre Dame (30, 5) - 17.5
7. Arkansas (17, 20) - 18.5
8. Florida (24, 15) - 19.5
9. Texas (35, 7) - 21.0
10. North Carolina (3, 40) - 21.5

The Big Ten currently occupies the top 4 spots. SEC has 4 of the next 5.

This list feels more or less right. I figured Oklahoma would be pretty high. Top 5 football program all time and lots of Final Fours too.

UF seems a tad high if I’m being honest, but I guess having titles in both does carry weight. Just seems like 2006-2009 is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. You remove that 4 year stretch and I’m not sure they even make the list. But it was a hell of a short stretch, I’ll admit that.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Michigan State has a football title right? And UCLA has a split national title. It’s a little tricky with football because in the era when final rankings were before bowl games you have a lot of claims.

I think it’s only fair to treat every pre-playoff title like a Helms.

The rest of football history doesn’t exist, like basketball before 1939.

 

[CB3UK]

Ohio State was the first school that came to my mind.

 

[GE Nole]

I think it’s only fair to treat every pre-playoff title like a Helms.

The rest of football history doesn’t exist, like basketball before 1939.

Haha. Kidding aside, I think the BCS and even Bowl Coalition were solid enough titles. Pre 1988 or so gets a little fuzzy.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Tennessee in this decade should be on this list we have been a top 10 program in football and basketball since 2021

With a bunch of nothing to show..😂

 

[AWilli6995]

With a bunch of nothing to show..😂

It's like look at us, we are the best team with recent success and nothing to show for it.

 

[ABVolsFan92]

It's like look at us, we are the best team with recent success and nothing to show for it.

we have 4 SEC championships under Barnes that's plenty to show

 

[AWilli6995]

we have 4 SEC championships under Barnes that's plenty to show

I like Barnes a lot, we're from the same city but I do follow him and I hope he leads UT to a FF or more. I have tendency to follow coaches that are from NC.

 

[IUfanBorden]

we have 4 SEC championships under Barnes that's plenty to show

It is...BUT...that's not what this is about. It's that other trophy...

 

[brooky03]

So only 3 schools have won nattys in football and basketball. Michigan, Ohio State and Florida. Unless I’m missing someone. That’s pretty insane

I’m guessing there are more than 3. Well, I guess that also depends on what counts as winning a football national championship. Syracuse is recognized as the 1959 football national champion and of course won a basketball national championship.

Cuse was known as a foootball school for a long time before it flipped to being known as a basketball school.