Looks like y’all are getting your wish. Lots of chatter from Gonzaga side that they are deep in negotiations with the Big East right now.
Gonzaga to the Big East
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Wow pretty crazy. Good move for them, esp if its basketbll only. That travel will be a btch tho
Shocked it would be the big east but they really need to be in a conference. I don’t question whether Gonzaga is legit or not. I think they do themselves harm by not playing legit p5 teams on a regular basis.
I mean, at this point just screw geography.
You trust HIM over me?? A person who is hiding behind a username on an internet message board? Nonsense
Jeff Goodman looks like the white guy in my avatar
It would make the Big East a really formidable league, especially with Uconn on the rise. If Danny Hurley's anything like his dad (I think he is), that program is going to be very solid.
I wonder how much success Bob Hurley would have had as a college coach.
I wonder how much success Bob Hurley would have had as a college coach.
The Big East is already in a weird conference geographically. You have 6 schools that fit the geography of the original Big East. And then you have another 5 schools that align more with the geography of the Big Ten.
Big East Schools in the Northeast
Providence, RI
Philadelphia, PA
Storrs, CT
South Orange, NJ
Washington D.C.
New York, NY
Big East Schools in the Midwest/Big Ten County
Omaha, NE
Milwaukee, WI
Cincinnati, OH
Chicago, IL
Indianapolis, IN
I don't think Gonzaga is out of the question on moving to the Big East. Heck, their current conference mate, BYU, is going to be in the same conference as UCF and West Virginia... it'll just suck to fly across country for all of the non-revenue sports.
Big East Schools in the Northeast
Providence, RI
Philadelphia, PA
Storrs, CT
South Orange, NJ
Washington D.C.
New York, NY
Big East Schools in the Midwest/Big Ten County
Omaha, NE
Milwaukee, WI
Cincinnati, OH
Chicago, IL
Indianapolis, IN
I don't think Gonzaga is out of the question on moving to the Big East. Heck, their current conference mate, BYU, is going to be in the same conference as UCF and West Virginia... it'll just suck to fly across country for all of the non-revenue sports.
Y'all all just pretending like La Tech didn't play in the WAC for years, having to travel to Hawaii every year.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Right? Either travel costs are a real thing or they aren't......Some of these teams have lost their damn minds.
Loyola is the latest to be making an oddball move as they'll be joining the A-10 next year.
Gonzaga would take the cake though. Just move to the damn Pac 12 and rule that conference for a few years and be done with it.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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For football every other, for the rest of the sports its closer to every year depending on how large the conference schedule is for the sport.
No one HAS to travel to Hawaii every year. That's a benefit, not a burden. And a recruiting tool.
Villanova-Gonzaga would be a potentially fun rivalry.
I'm in. Let's do this.
I'm in. Let's do this.
naw, Gonzaga vs DePaul would be the new UNC/Duke.
For sure! And Villanova is going to play second fiddle to the new UNC/Duke teams, and essentially become NC State.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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I'm about a step and a half from orchestrating a hostile takeover of the NCAA front office and forcing all sports to go back to regionally-based conferences and scheduling.........enough of this horse sh**.
I'm with you! I stopped following basketball for about 10-15 years and when I came back in 2017 I was shocked by all the conference changes. Colorado and Utah in the Pac? Maryland in the Big 10? Nebraska?!?!?! Creighton and Butler in the Big East? Missouri in the SEC? Syracuse and Louisville in the ACC?
Y'all lost your minds while I was on sabbatical.
I already roast home boarders who talk about P5 conferences as if the Big East isn’t on P5 level. This will make them a really damn good basketball conference.
hopefully this is a trade and DePaul ends up in the WCC. Bring on Pepperdine!
It makes perfect sense culture fit wise and zero sense geographically. I don't think people realize how far out in the middle of nowhere Spokane is. Every Big East team will have to fly charter because there are zero direct flights from any of the Big East school locations.
It's a six hour flight from the East Coast to Seattle. From Seattle it's an hour flight or a 4 hour bus ride to Spokane. So best case scenario if you factor airport travel logistics, you're looking at a 7-8 hour travel day if you fly charter and 8-10 hours if you fly into Seattle and catch a connecting flight. That's pretty crazy.
I wish the Pac 12 would just sack up and let them join for hoops but it will never ever happen.
It's a six hour flight from the East Coast to Seattle. From Seattle it's an hour flight or a 4 hour bus ride to Spokane. So best case scenario if you factor airport travel logistics, you're looking at a 7-8 hour travel day if you fly charter and 8-10 hours if you fly into Seattle and catch a connecting flight. That's pretty crazy.
I wish the Pac 12 would just sack up and let them join for hoops but it will never ever happen.
Xavier is located in Cincinnati. Nova is in Philly, DePaul is in Chicago, etc.
Now we have lessons on geography.
I was speaking of Cincinnati. Xavier is not Cincinnati. They are the wusses.
They are the team that Cincy played to learn how to fight in public.
I would think a team like st. Mary’s would go with them. Just to have a travel partner for out there
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Cincinnati is going to the Big 12........Now we have lessons on geography.
I was speaking of Cincinnati. Xavier is not Cincinnati. They are the wusses.
They are the team that Cincy played to learn how to fight in public.
Not sure the Big East would want St. Mary's, though. Small school, modest budget. And St. Mary's would push the league to 13 teams.
Relatively, yes. But, Saint Mary's has less than 4,000 students. Outside of logistics/travel, another major issue is SMC doesn't have a huge budget. $4.4 million. The Average Big East school is 9.95 million. A decent chunk of their budget would be eaten up by airfare. These figures are from 2018-19, but I imagine most of the figures are similar.
Saint Mary's also isn't a brand name in any conceivable measure. They have a little over 7,000 followers on Twitter. I went to the WCC Tournament in 2019; that was the year where they upset #1 Gonzaga - and it was honestly hard to find SMC fans in the arena. If people in the Silicon Valley actually cared about SMC, then an invite from the Big East might make sense. But, they don't. They're not bringing more eyeballs to the TV. Gonzaga, however, would bring a decent following with them.
| Data per Department of Higher Education website | |||
| Team | Conference | EXPENSES | |
1 | Duke | ACC | 22,178,473 |
2 | Kentucky | SEC | 20,202,558 |
3 | Louisville | ACC | 19,180,078 |
4 | Florida St. | ACC | 16,773,013 |
5 | Alabama | SEC | 15,966,875 |
6 | TCU | Big 12 | 15,718,763 |
7 | UCLA | Pac 12 | 15,468,381 |
8 | Marquette | Big East | 14,979,149 |
9 | Syracuse | ACC | 14,845,555 |
10 | Villanova | Big East | 14,428,932 |
11 | Michigan St. | Big Ten | 14,395,851 |
12 | Georgetown | Big East | 13,573,946 |
13 | Virginia | ACC | 13,400,721 |
14 | Indiana | Big Ten | 13,230,211 |
15 | Kansas | Big 12 | 12,547,439 |
16 | Texas Tech | Big 12 | 12,338,645 |
17 | Texas A&M | SEC | 11,818,860 |
18 | Texas | Big 12 | 11,649,912 |
19 | UNC | ACC | 11,204,115 |
20 | Providence | Big East | 11,117,186 |
21 | Pitt | ACC | 11,013,283 |
22 | Ohio St. | Big Ten | 10,996,364 |
23 | West Virginia | Big 12 | 10,798,893 |
24 | Northwestern | Big Ten | 10,646,711 |
25 | Tennessee | SEC | 10,554,613 |
26 | Auburn | SEC | 10,536,653 |
27 | Gonzaga | WCC | 10,496,251 |
28 | Illinois | Big Ten | 10,480,939 |
29 | Arkansas | SEC | 10,440,326 |
30 | Arizona | Pac 12 | 10,383,630 |
31 | Oregon | Pac 12 | 10,348,633 |
32 | NC State | ACC | 10,295,048 |
33 | Oklahoma | Big 12 | 10,072,404 |
34 | St. John's | Big East | 10,028,677 |
35 | Vanderbilt | SEC | 9,901,818 |
36 | Michigan | Big Ten | 9,874,360 |
37 | Baylor | Big 12 | 9,860,432 |
38 | Purdue | Big Ten | 9,604,624 |
39 | LSU | SEC | 9,512,515 |
40 | Mississippi | SEC | 9,432,295 |
41 | Uconn | Big East | 9,325,922 |
42 | Florida | SEC | 9,317,385 |
43 | Washington | Pac 12 | 9,224,123 |
44 | Houston | American | 9,219,796 |
45 | Nebraska | Big Ten | 9,180,631 |
46 | Maryland | Big Ten | 9,163,793 |
47 | Minnesota | Big Ten | 9,115,817 |
48 | Utah | Pac 12 | 8,965,613 |
49 | Miami FL | ACC | 8,895,333 |
50 | Wake Forest | ACC | 8,805,630 |
51 | Creighton | Big East | 8,590,055 |
52 | South Carolina | SEC | 8,561,964 |
53 | Wisconsin | Big Ten | 8,548,485 |
54 | Virginia Tech | ACC | 8,525,606 |
55 | Arizona St. | Pac 12 | 8,349,598 |
56 | Notre Dame | ACC | 8,331,273 |
57 | Missouri | SEC | 8,255,259 |
58 | Clemson | ACC | 8,229,736 |
59 | Memphis | American | 8,217,757 |
60 | Wichita St. | American | 8,182,863 |
61 | Iowa | Big Ten | 8,097,014 |
62 | Kansas State | Big 12 | 8,028,533 |
63 | Georgia | SEC | 7,756,002 |
64 | Iowa St. | Big 12 | 7,693,014 |
65 | Cincinnati | American | 7,644,770 |
66 | SMU | American | 7,590,481 |
67 | Rutgers | Big Ten | 7,545,360 |
68 | Seton Hall | Big East | 7,506,127 |
69 | BYU | WCC | 7,447,430 |
70 | Mississippi St. | SEC | 7,443,131 |
71 | Dayton | Atlantic 10 | 7,434,825 |
72 | St. Louis | Atlantic 10 | 7,428,566 |
73 | Xavier | Big East | 7,406,374 |
74 | Penn St. | Big Ten | 7,343,831 |
75 | Colorado | Pac 12 | 7,252,987 |
76 | Stanford | Pac 12 | 7,143,168 |
77 | Georgia Tech | ACC | 7,095,493 |
78 | USC | Pac 12 | 6,901,843 |
79 | Boston College | ACC | 6,872,835 |
80 | DePaul | Big East | 6,793,520 |
81 | Oklahoma St. | Big 12 | 6,700,510 |
82 | Temple | American | 6,487,460 |
83 | Oregon St. | Pac 12 | 6,203,088 |
84 | Tulsa | American | 6,196,308 |
85 | St. Joseph's | Atlantic 10 | 6,152,876 |
86 | California | Pac 12 | 6,131,940 |
87 | VCU | Atlantic 10 | 6,102,633 |
88 | UNLV | Mountain West | 5,795,483 |
89 | San Diego St. | Mountain West | 5,786,034 |
90 | Butler | Big East | 5,760,815 |
91 | Duquesne | Atlantic 10 | 5,612,982 |
92 | Washington St. | Pac 12 | 5,483,898 |
93 | Grand Canyon | WAC | 5,331,006 |
94 | Belmont | OVC | 5,129,856 |
95 | Fordham | Atlantic 10 | 5,075,355 |
96 | Tulane | American | 4,984,520 |
97 | South Florida | American | 4,931,868 |
98 | Richmond | Atlantic 10 | 4,782,542 |
99 | Rhode Island | Atlantic 10 | 4,745,208 |
100 | Nevada | Mountain West | 4,706,010 |
101 | UCF | American | 4,594,025 |
102 | Santa Clara | WCC | 4,445,480 |
103 | Colorado St. | Mountain West | 4,415,218 |
104 | St. Mary's | WCC | 4,401,818 |
Didn’t realize that. Why can’t DePaul compete? In chicago. Plenty of local talent. If you have the student population it should help. What’s the biggest issue for DePaul basketball?
Their brand. It use to be huge in Midwest basketball and now it's an after thought. Plus, everyone steals out of Chicago and have for awhile now. To the point that it's even hurting the Big 10.
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