Final 4 if the BCS still existed

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  1. cb20476

    cb20476 Well-Known Member
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    Would be the same as the committees final 4
    Georgia would have been 5th and Ohio st 6th in it too

    Wonder if they use these at all...


     
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    Georgia and Ohio State are better teams
     
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    Using my eye test and I have a damn good eye, Georgia is one of the top 3 teams in the country. Maybe top 2. RTR!!!
     
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    More reason we need an 8 team playoff... Georgia could win it all, OSU could upset teams as an underdog, UCF deserves a shot after winning like 25 games in a row.
     
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    Probably, thanks for posting. They're supposed to be at http://www.colleymatrix.com. read about it! 5/5. Yeah I think they're being consulted. And the BCS never went away. They just separate the champiinship into halves,
     
  6. DTP2

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    The BCS died in 2013.
     
  7. autzen_rocks

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    They were in the first half of the SECCG - second half I’m not so sure.
     
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    No. UCF deserves nothing... Nil, Zilch, Nada!
     
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    Didn’t see much different from the Richt teams in the second half to be honest.
     
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    Shouldn't have lost to......whoever they lost to before Bama.

    See how much I care?
     
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    I originally resisted the 8 team idea but it’s become clear that 4 isn’t enough
     
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    It really isn't. Plus who could say no to more football? Hypothetically the quarter final games this season would have been 1 Alabama vs 8 UCF (fake champ vs real champ), 2 Clemson vs 7 Georgia (rivalry renewed), 3 Notre Dame vs 6 Washington, 4 Oklahoma vs 5 Ohio State. Lots of great matchups.
     
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    I have gone the opposite direction lately. I used to want 8 but the more I think about it the more I realize that the number of teams is not the problem and going to eight will end up watering down the product even more. People are already calling for the end of conference championship games. They need to fix the selection process before they do anything else. Period. The committee idea is a joke.
     
  14. speedfrk

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    The selection process would have to have some automatic qualifiers plus a few at large selections.

    You have to have a system where if someone goes undefeated then they are in the playoff. Each team deserves the chance to control their own destiny at season starts. 4 teams doesn’t allow for that
     
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    If they’re undefeated they’d be conference champs and a lock for the playoffs. Unless there are five undefeated conference champs, that would be a cluster.
     
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    Probably so but they still should have showed up at red stick.
     
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    Yeah. You have it set up where the highest ranked G5 team is automatically in and undefeated G5 team get auto bids as well. So a Boise State and UCF could both getbin for example but there’s still room for teams like Georgia and TOSU this year
     
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    I agree with the "evil empire" UCFs schedule or any G schedule isn't enough to make the playoffs.
     
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    Even an 8 team playoff?
     
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    Just no. Teams would schedule even weaker OOC Teams.
     
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    In an 8 team scenario you have to have one auto bid for a G5 team
     
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    I'd put in one loss teams with a very strong schedule in over an undefeated G team, four teams or eight. If a G team went undefeated and had a strong schedule with almost all of their opponents having a winning record including their three or four P5 OOC opponents then they could be considered. Half of UCFs opponents have a losing record, a few barely have a winning record. Even by G standards it's a very soft schedule. I just can't see a team that has such an underwhelming resume being considered the national champion.
     
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    What if the highest ranked G team is 8-4? I can see a G team in certain situations but they'd have to be undefeated.
     
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    Don't know how you could simulate the rankings accurately as 1/3 of the formula doesn't even exist anymore. Not that it matters since the bcs was a joke.
     
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    Next Saturday 15 December should be the quarterfinals.
    #1 Bama vs Washington (they get in over Michigan)
    #2 Clemson vs UCF (automatic group of 5 unbeaten qualifier)
    #3 Notre Dame vs OSU (OSU would probably be favored in this game! That should tell you something about this 4 Team farce of a system)
    #4 Oklahoma vs Georgia (the same thing applies here, Georgia would be favored)

    29 DEC will still be the Semifinals date just like it is now

    The Championship Game should be on the same date as it is scheduled now.


    So instead of watching Alcorn State vs North Carolina AT&T, Tulane vs Louisiana, Utah State vs North Texas on 15 December we'll be watching 3 Highly competitive, entertaining, and a much needed extra round of playoff college football.

    Who can argue with this?
     
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    I agree with the general logic but an undefeated team like UCF should get in an 8 team playoff. If they win the title, they’d earn it through the playoff.

    In the current system, no way. I agree.
     
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  27. speedfrk

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    That’s not all that different than the cure NY6 rule though is it? Highest ranked G5 team gets a bid.

    The scenario you raise is a good one though.
     
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    No. Bama proved they were the better team last weekend.
     
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    If the BCS still existed it would be the Final 2.
     
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    I'm in the camp that thinks that if a really soft schedule is enough to get you into the playoffs then teams will stop scheduling challenging OOC games in an effort to create the easiest road to the playoffs.
     
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    Top 8 G5 teams over 41 FBS seasons under methods used.
    1984 -Brigham Young
    1996 -Brigham Young
    2004 -Utah
    2008 -Utah
    2009 -Boise State
    2009 -Texas Christian
    2010 -Texas Christian
    2011 -Boise State
    2018 -Central Florida
     
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    Not if you play by rules that compel stronger schedules.
     
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    That would be ideal.
     
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    I’d take he BCS over the committee every single time.
     
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    Why?
     
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    Shouldn’t the system allow for every team to control their own destiny at the start of the year? Shouldn’t the highest G5 team get an auto bid? It’s similar to the current NY6 arrangement now.
     
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    Explain to me again why Georgia should get in over Michigan?
     
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    In an 8 team playoff I think the current format for best G5 team is best. Win your conference and be the highest ranked.
     
  39. BTSBuckeye

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    What happens if the G5 spot continually goes winless in the playoff though? It could essentially become a contractually wasted spot.

    I'd much rather give them a chance via pick, see how they fair for a couple of years, and THEN revisit the idea of awarding an auto-bid to the G5.

    Once you give an auto-bid, you're never getting it back.
     
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    Because they have a better team than Michigan! Their strength of schedule is #1 in the country. They almost beat Alabama and looked to be on their level. They pass the eye ball test. Do you need anymore reasons....? They are ranked higher in the polls by the committee, AP, Coaches and ahead in all computer rankings..... They'd probably be a 10 point favorite over Michigan at a neutral site. Jim Harbaugh sucks..

    Do you need anymore reasons?
     
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