Emily Ratajkowski poses naked in protest of US abortion laws

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  1. Duckdude73

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    But that’s what it boils down to (and shouldn’t), I don’t want to work the crazy hours I do, or the awful commute or pay the confiscatory taxes etc, but yet I do.
     
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    Biology doesn't change based on the desires of people. Why do we keep people alive on machines that we know will recover? What's the difference btw that and a baby inside of the womb depending on the mother for a few weeks?
     
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    Even if it doesn’t happen a ton, if someone gets raped and they don’t want they child, they should be forced to keep it?
     
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    Good, that's what people are supposed to do. Be responsible, that is what the argument boils down to. Personal responsibility. Don't want a kid, be responsible and wear a condom. Don't kill the kid because youre lifestyle might get cramped.
     
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    Taking people off life machines is more related IMO
     
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    Not even close..the baby is going to be born and have a full life ahead of him/her 99.999% of the time. That is why I specifically said people on machine that are going to come back. Why don't we just turn the machine off them if they are 75 yrs old..they only have a limited life to live anyway.
     
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    What if they are on the pill or have a condom and they still get pregnant? Contraceptives don’t work 100%. They were being responsible and it still happened.
     
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    Exactly

    But I agree leftists are experiencing a psychosis. Smart people. The smartest guy I know is a deranged leftist. He plays mental gymnastics by convincing himself an unborn child is not a human being until it pops free of the womb. Green light to kill it til then.

    WTF??!@, but the guy is a genius. Like he is the dude you want on your trivia team. But can't see what is plain as day to someone who ISNT a deranged leftist
     
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    Tough

    Abortion isn't meant to be an escape from inconvenience.

    And stop with the "well, what if ___________ (insert extremely unlikely event here)"

    Straw man argument. You don't know anyone where condoms didn't work.
     
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    Why don't you want it going to the supreme court?
     
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    If anything, the Alabama law is deranged. Look at the reactions not only here in the US, but around the world. It was a step back.
     
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    I noticed you didn't have a problem with the baby murder law in NY. Weird
     
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    Who gives a shit about reactions besides you?

    What is deranged about it? Let's hear it
     
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    Yes and people that kill pregnant women often get charged with double homicide.

    Its all about what is convenient at the time to some people.
     
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    You are correct rape and incest pregnancies are rare. I’m Pro-Life but this would be an area where compromise could be achieved IMO. I can understand why forcing a woman to carry in such circumstances would be emotionally difficult for most. Abortion for reasons of convenience is the largest number by far and that is just plain awful IMO.
     
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    On the wrappers, they literally write they don’t work 100% of the time.

    Abortions will happen happen whether it is illegal or not. Keeping abortion legal to a point makes sure that it is done safely. If abortion is completely illegal, women will die/get hurt.
     
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    So do you support free/greatly reduced contraceptives? Increasing funding for adoptive services, food stamp services, etc.
     
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    A doctor hears about an 14 year old who is raped and gets pregnant. He performs an abortion. The rapist goes to jail for 1 year. The abortion doctor? 60 years.
     
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    This is unimaginable to me.
     
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    Some of those things yes. Adoption services especially. Incentivizing monetarily having kids has been disastrous. I’d be happy to have her tubes tied or him get a vasectomy paid for by John Q Taxpayer though.
     
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    You throw out numbers like they’re real when I’ve never heard of someone who raped a juvenile only going to prison for one year. Where are you getting your information?
     
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    Juvenile maybe, but there are definitely things examples of rapists going to jail for less than a year (looking at you Brock turner).
     
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    Assuming you are right about world reaction...they are reacting to one state of 4.8 million...that is less than 2% of the US population. Numerous entire European countries have a cut off of 12 weeks. 49 states have more liberal abortion policies than Europe.
     
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    Oh so true just a few short years ago but thankfully that is quickly being reversed.
     
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    Complete and utter bullshit.
     
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    Most contraceptives such as the pill and others run about 97% or slightly above, add a condom and you are over 99% provided they know how to correctly use the condom. This leaves us with less then 1 percent chance of pregnancy so if you are talking teens, this is important, married couples however never hit that 100 times mark, :D But one percent being responsible, and or those with a medical condition or even a severe condition with the fetus, rape incest and those who decide in the first few weeks I am fine with abortion as an alternative. SmokinSmile
     
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    If women are getting abortions for the mere inconvenience it then oh well if they get hurt

    And you say that like you have some basis of knowledge to draw from. You don't, youre in your early twenties and don't know much
     
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    i will reply as I have first hand knowledge. I was active and women had access. In fact there was a great deal of emphasis placed on birth control back then as compared to now.

    Shot gun weddings were real.
     
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    Are you talking about alabama?

    Rape 2nd degree (which is what you are describing) comes with a minimum sentence of 2 years, max 20
     
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    I don't think that you realize what you have posted is complete utter bullshit - again. At least you are consistent.

    I was 22 and a very active exploring individual then. I had explored virtually every social and political agenda and leaning.
     
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    This is great
     
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    But not up in arms on what is happening in NY and VA?
     
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    Yup the in a previous of my own responsibility was that firmly believed my Father when he said you knock some girl up and I will kill you.
     
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    Correct the woman is not legally penalized under the law. What the majority of libtards are not understanding is this was passed not to be a law but a test balloon. But not like they have ever let the truth stand in their way.
     
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    This is interesting;
    Premature Baby Survival Rate By Week
    • 22 weeks completed: 21% survival
    • 23 weeks completed: 37% survival
    • 24 weeks completed: 60% survival
    • 25 weeks completed: 77% survival
    • 26 weeks completed: 85% survival
    • 27 weeks completed: 91% survival
    • 28 weeks completed: 95% survival
    • 29 weeks completed: 97% survival
    • 30 weeks completed: 98% survival
    • 31 weeks completed: 99% survival
    • 32 weeks completed: 100% survival
    • 33 weeks completed (and on): 100% survival
    Seems to me 23 weeks is the max for an abortion. After that in more than half the time it is a viable human being. There is a strong argument that 20-21 weeks should be the max.

    Personally to me 12 weeks should be the cut off. 16 weeks is too long. While the baby will not survive on it's own it is capable of movement and I believe has feelings. No way we should murder that alive feeling baby just because it can not speak for itself.
     
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    Used correctly the effective rate is 98%.
     
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    I can't speak for whomever the libtards are, but bills like this aren't just test balloons. They are designed to put abortion providers out of business. Whether that's by intention or a bonus side effect, it's painfully obvious to a neutral observer.
     
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    Since I live in Alabama that precludes my neutrality. The intent is exactly as I stated. However in the real world you have to remember many things. First the law does not go in effect for six months. Secondly it is getting the attention it was written to get so as such the lawsuits etc are being filed. As such this will be in hiatus while the court actions are going on.

    There will be more laws passed on both sides and there will be a reckoning in the upper court. This will not happen overnight.
     
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    What party supports this agenda? And then a follow up question. Why wasn’t any progress made during the Clinton and Obama presidencies when they had a period in time which they controlled WH House and Senate?
     
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    That same doctor has likely performed many many abortions and has profited from peddling death. He can go **** himself and die in prison for all I care.
     
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