dukedevilz preseason top 50

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  1. dukedevilz

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    Well, here's my wildly inaccurate Preseason Top 50. Roster turnover is alarmingly high among Power-6 schools. I formulated these rosters last year because I had trouble really understanding where teams stood in the preseason with so many new faces. The reality is, we don't know how players will progress. Given what we do know, I think my picks are reasonably accurate. There are some reaches, sure. I might have missed on a few. If nothing else, I think it helps provide a nice overview of where some of the elite teams stand. What do you think?

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    Teams 27-50

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    And for extra measure, here's how I'd rank the teams 51-68.

    51. Houston
    52. Iowa State
    53. Providence
    54. West Virginia
    55. Mississippi State
    56. Iowa
    57. New Mexico
    58. Butler
    59. Oregon State
    60. Indiana
    61. BYU
    62. Syracuse
    63. Arkansas
    64. South Florida
    65. Arizona State
    66. Oklahoma
    67. Pittsburgh
    68. Liberty

    Here's how the conferences breakdown:

    SEC (10):
    4. Florida
    5. Kentucky
    12. LSU
    28. Auburn
    38. Alabama
    41. Ole Miss
    43. Tennessee
    50. Georgia
    55. Mississippi State
    63. Arkansas

    Big Ten (9):
    1. Michigan State
    10. Maryland
    13. Ohio State
    21. Illinois
    24. Purdue
    30. Michigan
    49. Wisconsin
    56. Iowa
    60. Indiana

    ACC (9):
    3. Louisville
    6. Duke
    8. North Carolina
    19. Virginia
    27. NC State
    34. Florida State
    48. Notre Dame
    62. Syracuse
    67. Pittsburgh

    Big XII (8):
    2. Kansas
    7. Texas Tech
    15. Baylor
    36. Texas
    45. Oklahoma State
    52. Iowa State
    54. West Virginia
    66. Oklahoma

    Big East (8):
    11. Seton Hall
    17. Villanova
    25. Marquette
    29. Creighton
    32. Xavier
    40. Georgetown
    53. Providence
    58. Butler

    Pac-12 (7):
    9. Oregon
    16. Arizona
    33. Washington
    35. Colorado
    44. Southern Cal
    59. Oregon State
    65. Arizona State

    American Athletic (4):

    20. Memphis
    37. Cincinnati
    51. Houston
    64. South Florida

    Atlantic-10 (3):
    18. VCU
    39. Davidson
    46. Dayton

    Mountain West (3):
    23. Utah State
    47. San Diego State
    57. New Mexico

    West Coast (3):
    14. Gonzaga
    22. Saint Mary's
    61. BYU

    Others (4):
    26. New Mexico State (WAC)
    31. Harvard (Ivy)
    42. Western Kentucky (Conference USA)
    68. Liberty (Atlantic Sun)
     
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    awesome, thanks for posting!
     
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    VCU is always so much higher than they need to be.
     
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    Good list. Thanks DD!
     
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    They're a legit top 25 team, IMO. Went 2-2 in Quad 1 games last year; played UVA very tough on the road. More of a challenge in JPJ Arena than all of the ACC teams outside of Duke. Bring back their whole roster and bring in Nah'shon Hyland who will be very, very good. I like them at #18.
     
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    WAY to much love for Illinois,
     
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    Agreed, they suck and always have sucked and always will continue to suck.
     
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    Perhaps. Like I said, there might be some reaches in my rankings. They could easily miss the tournament. Just feel like they have several talented players and Cockburn fills the void of one of their biggest deficiencies last year, rebounding. Not overly impressed with their depth - and defense was mostly lackluster. So it's not a slam dunk pick. But teams doing a 180 in the span of a year certainly isn't unprecedented. Just last year, we saw Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa make the tournament. Wisconsin was 7-11 in BT play in 2018, while Minnesota and Iowa were 4-14. I could be wrong. We'll see...
     
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    I feel like I want to have your children. This is the most impressive thread I've seen in quite some time.

    I got to admit I was asleep on Illinois but you have placed them on my radar. I did use their guy with the long last name on my 25c D Kings rosters last year and he did not disappoint.
     
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    I love when everyone is down on WVU. That usually means a great year for Bob Huggins.
     
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    F florida F louisville Left off our 6'9" 250 lb rebounding blocking machine lol.Ben Jordan...
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    The question with Texas is what Jericho Sims you get.
    I think they have tried different things with him this off-season.
    He is an explosive jumper and when he is on provides great interior defense.
    But he seems to wilt at times because of lack of confidence. I don't think Texas is afraid to use Kai Jones and Will Baker but would rather have Sims play to potential.
     
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    Jk that’s fair for Michigan this year IMO. I personally think they are higher than 30th but there are obviously unknowns.

    The AP has Michigan 47th. Yikes.
     
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    Michigan outside the top 5 in the Big Ten probably isn’t gonna happen though
     
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    I'm not necessarily down on West Virginia. I just don't think there's a HUGE difference between team 40 and team 60. WVU is certainly capable of making a run to the tournament. Just gotta get more production out of their guards. And 3-point shooting needs to improve.

    See, I'm not so bad after all. I like Simpson, Teske, and Livers. The big question mark will be the wings. I've seen some highlights of Wagner and he looks like a solid prospect. They could easily climb into the Top 25 if they get consistency out of Wagner, Brooks, and Bajerma.
     
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    MSU, Purdue, Maryland, Illinois and OSU are all teams I have ahead of UM in the pre season in conference. So I have UM 6th right now.
     
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    There are a lot of players I have excluded from rosters, mostly walk-ons. I've included a few walk-ons, however, but I need to see that they've earned regular minutes in the rotation. I'm also not including injured players (ie: Brandon Williams of Arizona, or James Rojas of Alabama) or guys that are sitting out (ie: Eugene Omoruyi of Oregon, or Sam Hauser of Virginia). I want the rosters to focus on guys that could receive meaningful minutes.
     
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    I don’t see them all ahead of Michigan. We’ll see
     
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    Our guards have apparently improved a lot. Bob Huggins hasn't praised his team like this in the offseason since our last final 4 team. Something he never does but he sounds giddy about this season and his players buying in. Last season we had a lot of guys that didnt work hard enough or take well to his coaching. With that said we ended up playing very well towards the end of the season.
     
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    Most are thinking Franz will be an instant impact freshman. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him average double digits.

    Big question marks at the 2 guard thoughz
     
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    Gotcha.. The story is still out on him. He's a good athlete. Obviously on a baseball scholly. All time rebounder and shot blocker on his hs team and 8th all time in scoring. Most likely his role is to be a strong arm in practice. Our bigs are too soft
     
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    Any UofL or UF people up for an avatar bet? I think UK us going to be better.
     
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    Tough way to start the season. Hopefully this doesn't slow him down too much...

     
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    Top 4 teams on the AP pre season poll will face off in the champions classic next month
     
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    Makes it extremely likely the teams in the classic will underperform their preseason rankings again
     
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    Not sure about Duke but I feel strongly Kentucky, Kansas, and Michigan state will all be top 5 most of the year
     
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    Maybe so, but recent history hasn’t been supportive of that.
     
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    Well I know we haven’t held up our end of the deal lately
     
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    Son of a *****
     
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    I’m the past 4 years, MSU has finished higher than expected twice, around where expected, and lower than expected once with a ton of front-court injuries
     
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    Kansas at 2?!?!?!!!!

    A freshman and a Hawkeye rental..

    I'll believe it when Kansas is consistently draining 3s.

    Top 15 teams should all be fun.
    Nobody outside MSU feels "elite", loads of opportunity for bubble resumes.
     
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    Recent history included JB. I think you are putting waaaaay to much stock into a guy who's never coached a single game of CBB. Or maybe you are just going out on a limb----hoping Howard makes you look like a genius?
     

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