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Discussion in 'College Basketball Board' started by Ipartiedwithhopgood, Feb 25, 2015.
We have a ball game.
Duke doesn't play very good defense. They can be pretty great offensively though. I imagine VT will wear down. I don't think they play many guys. Oddly enough they are making some tough threes but missing a number of easy layups.
Duke heating up.
Yeah, VT was making them beat them with twos and then all of a sudden started letting them jack up threes. Now they are losing.
Teams trading 3s.
I will say, Va Tech can shoot.
Another missed layup by the Hokies. As a UNC fan, it is frustrating watching game after game where players can make threes though.
When Winslow is full speed going to the basket he is damn near impossible to stop.
Tough call there.
Man, those were two awful possessions there by Tech.
Wow, there is the Duke flop and call. He was there but there is no way there is enough contact for a foul there. How a team consistently fools the refs on the same crap year after year is amazing.
Terrible call. That's a block. What else is new?
Do you really think they are fooled?
I thought it was a no call but in late game situations they will get the calls. K works the whole game for this.
I don't know what else to think. I mean, I get that it is a pretty obvious flop to everyone watching and must look worse live but what else is there. Scared of K? That may play a part but there I think he was fooled. The dude probalby shouldn't have dropped his shoulder but the ref still should have seen there wasn't enough contact.
Then on that last play Okafor commits three offensive fouls just like he did against us and they call the foul on Tech. Are officials always going to be this incompetent.
Typical...two offensive fouls not called on okafor.
Seriously, it is crazy they don't call that. I mean, it is one thing to back up the defender slowly with your butt and some side-to-side moves. But it is another thing entirely to drive your shoulder really hard into the defender over and over. It is impossible to play defense against that.
Okafor got pushed when he got it, so I was ok with him not getting called on the bumps. Didnt get a great look at the actual foul tho.
Maybe the first one. Those were pretty violent slams though. What is a shame to me is that if he would have flopped he may have gotten the call so you get punished for not flopping.
Totally true and I hate it.
It really does the ACC no good to have Duke lose games.
Front runners are protected and/or enabled in team sports.
Defenders on Okafor need to learn to just hold ground and go down when he does that because that's a huge part of his offensive arsenal. Gets away with it all the time.
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Dude got fouled on the last shot attempt too but again no call. Officials simply refuse to call fouls on Duke if it might cost them a game. It just won't happen.
Duke's defense is just bad
Really makes you wonder how they would guard Hollis-Jefferson and Stanley. I think Tarczewski would battle Okafor and make it hard for him but he would still get his.
I mean, he is very good. That isn't all of his game. It is just a part of his that is against the rules and he gets away with because other teams don't puss out and flop.
I think AZ would match up really well with Duke. I am not much of a homer on here, but I am confident in that.
Okafor has come up bit with the FTs in OT though.
Careful Cory your Duke hate is showing. Flat out the charge against Tyus was a good call. he lowered his shoulder its automatic. Like every game the officials don't make perfect calls and can admit we've been on the lucky end of a few but come on now. I also find it laughable that a card fan would chime in. Please tell us more about Louisville gets away with that physical defense year after year?
Cook has had a great game.
This late game execution looks like UNC. Give their best shooter a wide open three, drive wildly and throw up some crap, and then don't foul Okafor when he gets the rebound. Reminds me of the stupid crap we've done all year late in games. Duke definitely is pretty clutch in late game situations.
Well, time to turn to the NBA now. Good effort from the Hokies.
No, it was not a good call. He lowered his shoulder and barely made contact. It was a flop, which is what Tyus does. Then Okafor can lower the shoulder and slam into anyone he wants without ever getting called because other teams don't flop. I get that the comeback is that the flop is a smart play and I understand that. It is also one of the reasons college officiating is universally considered to be garbage.
I never said I liked Duke. I'm very open about disliking them.
This post was edited on 2/25 11:22 PM by coryfly
Cook has had a great year. He has been outstanding for them.
Thing with Okafor is that if you just try to absorb him and keep him from scoring he is gonna score most of the time because of his footwork. As much as I hate it I do think you have to try and time it and take a Dukie dive when he rams you the second or third time. Even if you only get the call once or twice a game that us 2 fouls on him which means either he has a little foul trouble or he becomes even more worthless on defense than he already is. If you aren't going to double he is gonna get his 20 anyway so might as well make it 20 with a couple of OFF fouls thrown in.
I agree but just hate that is what the game is now.
He did that to Meeks a lot. He bulls his way to the basket
He was running down the court and he made a good amount of contact not "barely" . that's like saying oh he barely touched his hand on the shot it's not a foul. Or oh he barely held his arm it's not a foul.I can understand that you feel as if college officiating is garbage, but who is better the NBA? The same NBA that allows players to travel all over the place? It's really not that bad in comparison.
Yeah I know you don't like duke just saying that you're dislike for duke is making you a little biased
Okafor lowers his shoulder and acts like a battering ram. I cannot believe he gets away with it as blatant as he is with it.
No, it is not like barely touching the hand on a shot. There is a definite advantage there. That contact gave neither of them an advantage because of the minimal contact. Then he threw his head back and dove on the ground, thus fooling the ref into thinking he was actually ran into. As I said, I get they do it to get the calls but that doesn't mean I have to think it is ok. I didn't think it was ok when UNC guys did it, though at this point I'm all for Meeks flopping in our next game if Okafor keeps hammering him. The NBA officiating is much better IMO because they make relevant calls. They are much more about advantage/disadvantage. They are also much better at recognizing players who flop and punishing them by not giving them calls. The walks are terrible but they are also actually legal now by rule. I'm definitely biased. No doubt about that. But Tyus is the guy at Duke who flops the most so that is annoying. Plus, I'm seriously considering taking a late Lent break from posting after tonight so need to get some in tonight just in case I go with that.
BTW, Rathan-Mayes for FSU (who killed us) apparently just scored 30 points in the last 4:30 of their game. They lost but that is absolutely ridiculous.